Baby Doc returns to Haiti....Heaven help dat islan

[RichD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: H_O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">anyone ever wonder if the CIA sent him back </div></div> derek did

[Blackstar*]

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It would have been the French rather than the CIA. More than 200 years later, they still can't forgive Haiti for beating the stuffing out of them.

[Gen]

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[CyberPhobic]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sinco01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Can he be tried on something ..
Can he be arrested ..?

Some previous alleged or trumped up up sinting .. ? ?

Maybe he has friends in &quot;high places&quot; </div></div>

<span style="font-weight: bold">Haitian police took ex-dictator Jean-Claude Duvalier out of his hotel Tuesday without saying whether he was being detained for crimes committed under his brutal regime.

A contingent of police led the former dictator known as “Baby Doc” through the hotel and to a waiting SUV.

Duvalier, 59, was calm and did not say anything. Asked by journalists if he was being arrested, his longtime companion Veronique Roy, laughed but said nothing.

It came after he met in private with senior Haitian judicial officials inside his hotel room amid calls by human rights groups and other for his arrest.

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GOOGLEIT!!!

[franksterr]

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Franksterr said:<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
&quot;The instituations are made of of individuals, and the type of individuals dictates the form the instituations will take and the manner in which it will execute its mandate.&quot;</div></div>

Please note I said individuals.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
In fact, when there is a political party involved the individual is subordinate to the will of the majority and especially of the leadership of that party.</div></div>

That depends on the status of the individual within the party.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That is why even when a progressive person is elected, they are relatively powerless to create change.
The case of progressive President Zelaya getting elected in Honduras and then when he attempted change his party and the opposition joined to stage a coup d'etat and remove him.</div></div>
You think the same thing would have happened to Stalin or Hitler.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Obama, WERE he of a mind to change things would also face the opposition from the conservative &quot;blue dog&quot; democrats in his own party.[quote]

Depends on the direction the “ change” he intends to institute takes.


[quote]The individual in a party run system is only as powerful as the following he can muster and in countries with an entrenched party majority of those who favor the status quo, a progressive individual is virtually powerless.</div></div>

true

[barosa]

Re: Baby Doc returns to Haiti....Heaven help dat islan

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlackStar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Baby Doc should have been led to the nearest prison as he set foot on Haitian soil. Nobody voted for him and he stole millions from the people.

Aristide on the other hand was duly elected as president by the people - twice - only to be ousted by foreigners; he should be the one returning to Haiti. </div></div>
I completely agree with the above.. He should have been arrested as he landed, but he knew that the country is in crisis mode and he could get away with it.. It is my belief that he would not attempt a return visit unless he had tacit approval from either European or American interest or both..
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Just like oil, the truth will eventually float to the top..

[jamaica_dreamin]

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I thought that baby doc was arrested?

[barosa]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jamaica_dreamin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I thought that baby doc was arrested? </div></div>

Jamaica Dreaming, I just learned from CNN that Baby Doc has been detained! No details yet, so keep watching and I'm so happy; hope it's for real...
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Just like oil, the truth will eventually float to the top...

[jamaica_dreamin]

Re: Baby Doc returns to Haiti....Heaven help dat islan

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: barosa</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jamaica_dreamin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I thought that baby doc was arrested? </div></div>

Jamaica Dreaming, I just learned from CNN that Baby Doc has been detained! No details yet, so keep watching and I'm so happy; hope it's for real...
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Just like oil, the truth will eventually float to the top... </div></div>

I hope that he will be charged for his crimes. I hope that they go after his assets. He was very arrogant and foolish to go to Haiti.

[Gen]

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He was released by the police after 6 hours of questioning (most likely for show)

I can't see him returning if he knew he would be arrested

and the saga continues

[johnnycakes]

Re: Baby Doc returns to Haiti....Heaven help dat islan

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: barosa</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlackStar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Baby Doc should have been led to the nearest prison as he set foot on Haitian soil. Nobody voted for him and he stole millions from the people.

Aristide on the other hand was duly elected as president by the people - twice - only to be ousted by foreigners; he should be the one returning to Haiti. </div></div>
I completely agree with the above.. He should have been arrested as he landed, but he knew that the country is in crisis mode and he could get away with it.. It is my belief that he would not attempt a return visit unless he had tacit approval from either European or American interest or both..
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Just like oil, the truth will eventually float to the top.. </div></div>


I thoroughly agree with both of you.
Authoritarian, right-wing, anti-communist, kleptocratic Duvalier is just who the U.S likes and would like to see back in power..