France Bans Muslim Women from Wearing Burkas

[RichD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlackStar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You still hanging in there, RichD. I admire your perseverance. </div></div>or stubborn or jus plain igle

[lonewolf]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> It is a practice many Canadians – including some Muslims – consider to be oppressive, offensive and an outright rejection of the West.</div></div>

BINGO! We have a winner!.......and with that in mind, western society is where these people choose to live. They choose to live here because of the freedoms of that western society. That said, these freedoms and the invite to said society only go so far. There is still a requirement to assimilate into a society and respect the cultural aspects of where THEY CHOSE TO LIVE. If the majority of citizens of France or Canada find this dress offensive, than people of muslim faith should respect that.....If not, move somewhere else where dressing in this fashion is MANDATORY.
Isn't this why they chose not to live in an EXTREME MOSLEM SOCIETY to begin with?
They can't have it both ways.

[Yuriatin]

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Good points.

And as many stories and articles that can be found with women saying they love wearing this type of covering, there’s just as many out there that talk of women who DO feel they’re forced to wear it and dislike it.

There’s a famous case right here in the tri state area, of a father who killed his adult daughter for not covering.

Here’s even a case in CA as well where a dad killed his teen daughter... http://amboytimes.typepad.com/the_am...-killed-d.html

But that’s not what I really wanted to post, now that I think of it.

I just wanted to agree with your point Wolf.

Note that the French have made moves on all sorts of things that they feel encroach in some way, on their way of french living.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> It is a practice many Canadians – including some Muslims – consider to be oppressive, offensive and an outright rejection of the West.</div></div>

BINGO! We have a winner!.......and with that in mind, western society is where these people choose to live. They choose to live here because of the freedoms of that western society. That said, these freedoms and the invite to said society only go so far. There is still a requirement to assimilate into a society and respect the cultural aspects of where THEY CHOSE TO LIVE. If the majority of citizens of France or Canada find this dress offensive, than people of muslim faith should respect that.....If not, move somewhere else where dressing in this fashion is MANDATORY.
Isn't this why they chose not to live in an EXTREME MOSLEM SOCIETY to begin with?
They can't have it both ways. </div></div>

[RichD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> It is a practice many Canadians – including some Muslims – consider to be oppressive, offensive and an outright rejection of the West.</div></div>

BINGO! We have a winner!.......and with that in mind, western society is where these people choose to live. They choose to live here because of the freedoms of that western society. That said, these freedoms and the invite to said society only go so far. There is still a requirement to assimilate into a society and respect the cultural aspects of where THEY CHOSE TO LIVE. If the majority of citizens of France or Canada find this dress offensive, than people of muslim faith should respect that.....If not, move somewhere else where dressing in this fashion is MANDATORY.
Isn't this why they chose not to live in an EXTREME MOSLEM SOCIETY to begin with?
They can't have it both ways. </div></div>

one article suggested that many of those who have adopted the practice are born there (in france) there is no &quot;go back where you came from&quot;

[RichD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Yuri_</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Good points.

And as many stories and articles that can be found with women saying they love wearing this type of covering, there’s just as many out there that talk of women who DO feel they’re forced to wear it and dislike it.

There’s a famous case right here in the tri state area, of a father who killed his adult daughter for not covering.

Here’s even a case in CA as well where a dad killed his teen daughter... http://amboytimes.typepad.com/the_am...-killed-d.html

But that’s not what I really wanted to post, now that I think of it.

I just wanted to agree with your point Wolf.

Note that the French have made moves on all sorts of things that they feel encroach in some way, on their way of french living.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> It is a practice many Canadians – including some Muslims – consider to be oppressive, offensive and an outright rejection of the West.</div></div>

BINGO! We have a winner!.......and with that in mind, western society is where these people choose to live. They choose to live here because of the freedoms of that western society. That said, these freedoms and the invite to said society only go so far. There is still a requirement to assimilate into a society and respect the cultural aspects of where THEY CHOSE TO LIVE. If the majority of citizens of France or Canada find this dress offensive, than people of muslim faith should respect that.....If not, move somewhere else where dressing in this fashion is MANDATORY.
Isn't this why they chose not to live in an EXTREME MOSLEM SOCIETY to begin with?
They can't have it both ways. </div></div> </div></div>

has the hijab been outlawed too?

[lonewolf]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">one article suggested that many of those who have adopted the practice are born there (in france) there is no &quot;go back where you came from&quot; </div></div>

You are confused. I did not post anything that stated anyone should <span style="font-weight: bold">&quot;go back where you came from&quot;</span>. I was specific and did not make that mistake, because it would have left the door open for that type of arguement. But, I did say &quot;<span style="font-weight: bold">move somewhere else where dressing in this fashion is MANDATORY&quot;.</span>

[RichD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">one article suggested that many of those who have adopted the practice are born there (in france) there is no &quot;go back where you came from&quot; </div></div>

You are confused. I did not post anything that stated anyone should <span style="font-weight: bold">&quot;go back where you came from&quot;</span>. I was specific and did not make that mistake, because it would have left the door open for that type of arguement. But, I did say &quot;<span style="font-weight: bold">move somewhere else where dressing in this fashion is MANDATORY&quot;.</span> </div></div>

what did this mean?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Isn't this why they <span style="font-weight: bold">chose</span> not to live in an EXTREME MOSLEM SOCIETY to begin with?</div></div>

[johnnycakes]

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All of this cover up the women thing is regressive and it is total religious and atavistic misogyny . It is crap.

It is an accusation and/or admission that men are so lust driven that women must cover up whatever particular feature on their irresistible bodies the MEN of a certain society and time have decided is necessary to cool the overheated male members of the society to the point that they can control themselves and act in a civil manner in the presence of women.

That is sick. It is anti-woman.
None of the women who now say they want to cover up are doing it for any good reason EXCEPT to protect themselves from the uncivilized behavior of a large proportion of the males in the society.
Think about this:
If there were no men in the world, women would not need or want to cover their bodies.

[lonewolf]

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What part is confusing you? It's self explanatory. Take it for its face value You know what it means, but nice try.

[lonewolf]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Think about this:
<span style="font-weight: bold">If there were no men in the world</span>, women would not need or want to cover their bodies </div></div>

Yeah, but, society would only last until the next oil needed changing in the car.

[Andrewnaqi]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Think about this:
<span style="font-weight: bold">If there were no men in the world</span>, women would not need or want to cover their bodies </div></div>

Yeah, but, society would only last until the next oil needed changing in the car. </div></div>

Nice way for you to put women down

[lonewolf]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice way for you to put women down </div></div>

Light'n up dude or dudette, it's not to be taken seriously. I love women! I mean, who the hell would cook my meals, clean my house and have me beg for sexual favors?

[johnnycakes]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice way for you to put women down </div></div>

Light'n up dude or dudette, it's not to be taken seriously. I love women! I mean, who the hell would cook my meals, clean my house and have me beg for sexual favors? </div></div>



Question for women out there:

What does it mean when Wolfie is gasping for breath and is calling your name?


Answer: You didn't hold the pillow down over his face long enough.



Why does Wolfie cry when he has sex?

Answer: Pepper spray has that effect.

[lonewolf]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Question for women out there:

What does it mean when Wolfie is gasping for breath and is calling your name?


Answer: You didn't hold the pillow down over his face long enough.



Why does Wolfie cry when he has sex?

Answer: Pepper spray has that effect. </div></div>


Cakes made a funny! (me thinks?) There is still hope...... That's clever Cakes, I like it