Support For Obama: Bad For USA

[lonewolf]

Re: Support For Obama: Bad For USA

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">a full time yu stop play that game...
you know racism is a legacy of the usa as dyed in the wool as old glory and it did not disappear in 3 years after being the law of the land for 400 years...
<span style="font-weight: bold">be honest with yourself &amp; acknowledge that at least much of the hatred of obama is rooted in good old-fashioned racism...
you know- the kind america was officially founded </span>on </div></div>

More nonsense, than how do you explain the election of Obama by a predominately white population to the most powerful leadership position in the world?

Is there racism in the world? Of course there is racism, both black and white.
Are you aware that there is still a slave trade in Africa as we speak?

[RichD]

Re: Support For Obama: Bad For USA

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">a full time yu stop play that game...
you know racism is a legacy of the usa as dyed in the wool as old glory and it did not disappear in 3 years after being the law of the land for 400 years...
<span style="font-weight: bold">be honest with yourself &amp; acknowledge that at least much of the hatred of obama is rooted in good old-fashioned racism...
you know- the kind america was officially founded </span>on </div></div>

More nonsense, than <span style="font-weight: bold">how do you explain the election of Obama by a predominately white population</span> to the most powerful leadership position in the world?

Is there racism in the world? Of course there is racism, both black and white.
Are you aware that there is still a slave trade in Africa as we speak?



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less than half of those who voted are racist?

[jah_yout]

Re: Support For Obama: Bad For USA

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">a full time yu stop play that game...
you know racism is a legacy of the usa as dyed in the wool as old glory and it did not disappear in 3 years after being the law of the land for 400 years...
<span style="font-weight: bold">be honest with yourself &amp; acknowledge that at least much of the hatred of obama is rooted in good old-fashioned racism...
you know- the kind america was officially founded </span>on </div></div>

More nonsense, than how do you explain the election of Obama by a predominately white population to the most powerful leadership position in the world?

Is there racism in the world? Of course there is racism, both black and white.
Are you aware that there is still a slave trade in Africa as we speak?



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more foolishness;
what does a slave trade in africa have to do with obama in america?
are you aware there is a slave trade in america as we speak?

obviously your implication is that &quot;africans are racist against africans worse than any racism that exists in america so just shut up &amp; stop claiming there is racism&quot;...
i don't see how any so-called slave trade in africa corelates with anti-black racism in america

[lonewolf]

Re: Support For Obama: Bad For USA

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">less than half of those who voted are racist? </div></div>

So, back to square one, Everyone that did not vote for Obama was racist?
Is that what you are saying?

That's the problem with these conversations, anyone can throw the racism term around with absolutely no proof or be held accountable. Put up or shut up.

[johnnycakes]

Re: Support For Obama: Bad For USA

&quot;According to the exit polls in last year's presidential election, the candidate preference of non-white voters was distinctly different from that of white voters.
Nearly all (95%) black voters cast their ballot for Democrat Barack Obama.
Among Latino voters, 67% voted for Obama while 31% voted for Republican John McCain.
Among Asian voters, 62% supported Obama and 35% voted for McCain.

In contrast, white voters supported McCain (55%) over Obama (43%).



This report summarizes the participation of voters in the 2008 presidential election and follows reports from the Pew Hispanic Center, a project of the Pew Research Center, on the Latino vote and Latino public opinion about the election and the candidates.

The data for this report are derived from the November Voting and Registration Supplement of the Current Population Survey (CPS). The CPS is a monthly survey of about 55,000 households conducted by the Census Bureau for the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The November Voting and Registration Supplement is one of the richest sources available of information about the characteristics of voters. It is conducted after Election Day and relies on survey respondent self-reports of voting and voter registration.

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1209/racial-ethnic-voters-presidential-election

[lonewolf]

Re: Support For Obama: Bad For USA

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">what does a slave trade in africa have to do with obama in america? </div></div>

Why don't you tell me? You were the one that posted that QUOTE:
<span style="font-weight: bold">racism is a legacy of the usa as dyed in the wool as old glory and it did not disappear in 3 years after being the law of the land for 400 years...</span>

You have to be implying the legacy of slavery that existed in the US.
Is this not where your <span style="font-weight: bold">400 years</span> statement comes from?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">obviously your implication is that &quot;africans are racist against africans worse than any racism that exists in america so just shut up &amp; stop claiming there is racism&quot;... </div></div>

Nope, not at all. I'm simply stating a fact that all roads as it pertains to a topic about racism in the US somehow are rooted back to slavery. The US almost ceased to exist to rid itself of slavery. Another fact is that slavery still exist in a continent that sold slaves to the US 400 years ago. Why does slavery that ended after the US civil war get more talk than people that are being enslaved today?

No, I'm not telling you to shut up. You are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.

I'd like just one person to prove that everything that goes on with Obama is based on racism. Post some facts rather than opinion. This is simply politics. Obama is being criticized because the country is headed down the toilet and he is not making any progress to stop it. A white man would be getting the same criticism.

Do you need me to post numbers on unemployment, involvemnt in three wars. gas prices etc.?

[johnnycakes]

Re: Support For Obama: Bad For USA

For non-racist, intellectual and excoriating criticisms of Barak Obama's presidency anyone can go to:

http://www.zcommunications.org/znet

or

http://www.tomdispatch.com/

and everyone who either likes or dislikes the corporate (White) house slave who is the president and does not seek out these or similar sites with such valid criticisms should not try to justify him here because you're working with a serious handicap: that of not knowing what the hell you're talking about.

[RichD]

Re: Support For Obama: Bad For USA

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For non-racist, intellectual and excoriating criticisms of Barak Obama's presidency anyone can go to:

http://www.zcommunications.org/znet

or

http://www.tomdispatch.com/

and everyone who either likes or dislikes the corporate (White) house slave who is the president and does not seek out these or similar sites with such valid criticisms should not try to justify him here because you're working with a serious handicap: that of not knowing what the hell you're talking about.
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i just have to shake my head ..you are a nasty piece of work

[R_C]

Re: Support For Obama: Bad For USA

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&quot;According to the exit polls in last year's presidential election, the candidate preference of non-white voters was distinctly different from that of white voters.
Nearly all (95%) black voters cast their ballot for Democrat Barack Obama.
Among Latino voters, 67% voted for Obama while 31% voted for Republican John McCain.
Among Asian voters, 62% supported Obama and 35% voted for McCain.

In contrast, white voters supported McCain (55%) over Obama (43%)</div></div>

Exit polls did not address <span style="font-style: italic">why </span>they voted the way they did.

[R_C]

Re: Support For Obama: Bad For USA

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Everyone that did not vote for Obama was racist? </div></div>

jc said in a previous post that <span style="font-style: italic">&quot;Obama would not have won had not so many people voted for the man <span style="font-weight: bold">because</span> he was black.&quot;</span> . Were one to continue with his line of reasoning then that would be the obvious conclusion too.....I guess.

[mountaingal]

Re: Support For Obama: Bad For USA

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For non-racist, intellectual and excoriating criticisms of Barak Obama's presidency anyone can go to:

http://www.zcommunications.org/znet

or

http://www.tomdispatch.com/

and everyone who either likes or dislikes the corporate (White) house slave who is the president and does not seek out these or similar sites with such valid criticisms should not try to justify him here because you're working with a serious handicap: that of not knowing what the hell you're talking about.
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i just have to shake my head ..you are a nasty piece of work </div></div>
yes, richd. jc believing that he's the only holder of truth, and that dissenting opinion must mean ignorance is one sad revelation.

[johnnycakes]

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i just have to shake my head ..you are a nasty piece of work [/quote]


True true,

el-hajj Malik El Shabazz said that black voters were STUPID and IGNORANT TO THEIR FACES when they voted for a Democrat in 1964.

He too was a nasty piece of work who most people here have long forgotten because the truth he spoke hit too close to home.as well.


And just what did THIS &quot;nasty piece of work&quot; say that hurt your feelings? or was untrue and especially in light of what brother Malik had to say to and about black voters in his &quot;bullets or ballots&quot; speech?

Is Barak Obama the black man you would want to emulate or would it be el-hajj Malik el Shabazz ?

Read &quot;The Audacity of Hope&quot; and &quot;Malcolm X Speaks&quot; again before you answer.

You might want to refresh your memory and your thoughts on who is your friend and who is your enemy.

[RichD]

Re: Support For Obama: Bad For USA

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For non-racist, intellectual and excoriating criticisms of Barak Obama's presidency anyone can go to:

http://www.zcommunications.org/znet

or

http://www.tomdispatch.com/

and everyone who either likes or dislikes the corporate (White) house slave who is the president and does not seek out these or similar sites with such valid criticisms should not try to justify him here because you're working with a serious handicap: that of not knowing what the hell you're talking about.
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i just have to shake my head ..you are a nasty piece of work </div></div>
yes, richd. jc believing that he's the only holder of truth, and that dissenting opinion must mean ignorance is one sad revelation. </div></div>

to be confident in your position is one thing..nuttin wrong wid that .. but what gets me is the kind of undertone that permeates his every post ..the air of condescending superiority that he has taken the time to come and share some of his superior wisdom with us poor uneducated and misseducated Black people ..that none of us can match wits with him.
and because he has a few black friends he is insulated form any charges of racism and can drop words under the guise of being cleaver.

I see thru him long time .

[RichD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

i just have to shake my head ..you are a nasty piece of work </div></div>


True true,

el-hajj Malik El Shabazz said that black voters were STUPID and IGNORANT TO THEIR FACES when they voted for a Democrat in 1964.

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so you think you are talking to this mixed group in 2011 on the same level as Malcom X was talking to his black brothers and sisters in the context of a post civil rights 1964 America ?




I really have to shake my head again.

[mountaingal]

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jc, u are no malcolm x.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

i just have to shake my head ..you are a nasty piece of work </div></div>


True true,

el-hajj Malik El Shabazz said that black voters were STUPID and IGNORANT TO THEIR FACES when they voted for a Democrat in 1964.

He too was a nasty piece of work who most people here have long forgotten because the truth he spoke hit too close to home.as well.


And just what did THIS &quot;nasty piece of work&quot; say that hurt your feelings? or was untrue and especially in light of what brother Malik had to say to and about black voters in his &quot;bullets or ballots&quot; speech?

Is Barak Obama the black man you would want to emulate or would it be el-hajj Malik el Shabazz ?

Read &quot;The Audacity of Hope&quot; and &quot;Malcolm X Speaks&quot; again before you answer.

You might want to refresh your memory and your thoughts on who is your friend and who is your enemy. [/quote]