The Help

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The Help: Movie Drawing Battle Lines in Black Storytelling
By Gary Anthony Ramsay | Posted on: August 17, 2011
Hollywood, CA - The Help, a new movie with stage and screen veteran Viola Davis, has the fingers a typing on the internet. The Dreamworks film has black people taking sides in this story about black nannies and housekeepers in the 1960's south from the perspective of a white woman.

ThyBlackMan.com writes: Why are some of the best and brightest black female voices in America so outraged over the new movie The Help based on Kathryn Stockett’s best-selling novel? Well, according to the Association of Black Women Historians (ABWH), and others like Professor Melissa Harris Perry of Tulane University, both the book and the movie represent widespread stereotyping and historical inaccuracies. They also take issue with the fact that Ms. Stockett’s book which has sold over three million copies, and became a major motion picture that raked in close to $20 million dollars in its opening weekend debut has profited at the expense of the very women whose stories she purports to share so accurately in her novel.

The Boston Globe's Nelson George, contrasted &quot;The Help&quot; with civil-rights documentaries and the &quot;larger problem for anyone interested in the true social drama of the era.&quot;

The film has Oscar buzz talk for Ms. Davis who is no stranger to her performance getting praise. Is a movie, which is by its very nature entertainment, worth all the drama? What do you think?

[evanovitch]

as a white person wat is ur take

[jah_yout]

Re: The Help

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The film has Oscar buzz </div></div>

surprise surprise...
hollyweird loves the story of the noble white saving the unfortunate black

[evanovitch]

Re: The Help

what's dis helping di black..how many have read the book

i did n did not look up the author until i had finished the book

the author is white yes

the protagonist of the book is a misfit of sorts herself within the white race
she carries out an idea of a black maid , whose son had started to write a book but had died

circumstances encourage the maids to overcome their fears and hesitancy in telling their tales and they do

the book is a good read...it is not any one person's story but can be the story of many a one who lived n worked as a maid in that period

the book is a work of fiction wich does touch on some reality...

it is as good a read as was waiting to exhale in terms of touching on subject matter that can be subjective r not...

geez...half of the people on this board dont read a book...di odda half get dem views from group think

at least dis book seh more dan all dem [censored] sex on the beach weh flood di shelves a yaad...

F E H

[jah_yout]

Re: The Help

fiyah fi dat

[evanovitch]

Judge Throws Out Suit Against 'The Help

Judge Throws Out Suit Against 'The Help' Author


Date: Wednesday, August 17, 2011, 4:47 am
By: Holbrook Mohr, Associated Press


JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — <span style="font-weight: bold">Did Kathryn Stockett use <span style="font-style: italic">her brother's African-American maid</span> as the basis for a character in the bestselling novel-turned-movie &quot;The Help</span>?&quot;

For now, that question may go unanswered, by a court anyway.

A Mississippi judge threw out a lawsuit Tuesday in which Ablene Cooper alleged Stockett used her likeness without permission in a book about relationships between white families and their black maids in the segregated South of the 1960s.

Hinds County Circuit Judge Tomie Green granted a motion for summary judgment, dismissing the case because a one-year statute of limitations elapsed between when Stockett gave Cooper a copy of the book and when the lawsuit was filed. The lawsuit sought $75,000 in damages.

Stockett was not in court in Jackson, the same city where the book is set.

Cooper wiped away tears leaving the courtroom and launched into a tirade outside the courthouse.

&quot;She's a liar. She did it. She knows she did it,&quot; Cooper screamed.

The judge did not make any determination on whether Cooper was the basis for the character, Aibileen, saying the statute of limitations trumped those matters.

Besides the similarities in names, Cooper's lawsuit says she lost a son shortly before going to work for Stockett's brother, where she takes care of two children, a boy and a girl. Cooper's lawsuit says that's the same as the character portrayed in the book.

Cooper's attorney, Edward Sanders, told The Associated Press he will consider the legal options available, including an appeal.

Melissa Broder, Stockett's publicist, had no comment. One of Stockett's attorneys, Fred Banks Jr., had no immediate comment either, saying he would release a statement later.

Stockett's defense team argued in court papers that Cooper and the character are not that similar.

&quot;'The Help' does not use Mrs. Ablene Cooper's name. It uses the name Aibileen Clark. It does not paint a picture of Mrs. Ablene Cooper, middle-aged in 2011. It paints the picture of Aibileen Clark, middle-aged in 1962,&quot; the lawyers said in court filings.

Stockett's attorneys said in court records that Aibileen is based on the late Demetrie McLorn, the Stockett family's housekeeper, who died when the author was a teenager.

&quot;The Help&quot; was made into a movie that opened last week. It debuted at No. 2 nationwide, bringing in $26 million.

The lawsuit says Stockett's refusal to acknowledge that she based the character on Cooper's likeness &quot;is so outrageous in character, and so extreme as to go beyond all bounds of human decency, and is utterly intolerable in a civilized community.&quot;

The suit also says that during a 2009 interview with The Atlanta Journal Constitution, <span style="font-weight: bold">Stockett said: &quot;When I was writing this book I never thought anyone else would read it, so I didn't get real creative with the names. I just used people I knew. Some of them </span>aren't talking to me right now, but I feel like they'll come around.&quot;

After court Tuesday, Cooper's adult son wrapped his arm around his mother's shoulders and yelled at a throng of reporters to get out of their way as they walked toward their car.

Cooper has said she's been embarrassed and distraught by the language used by the character that she says is based on her.

&quot;You see how I'm hurt? You know I'm hurt,&quot; Cooper said outside the courthouse.

The lawsuit quotes passages from the book, including one in which Aibileen's character describes a cockroach: &quot;He black. Blacker than me.&quot;

The lawsuit says Cooper found it upsetting and highly offensive to be portrayed as someone <span style="font-style: italic">&quot;who uses this kind of language and compares her skin color to a cockroach.&quot;
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<span style="font-weight: bold">yeah right..u di ongle black smaddy who neva compare black skine to someting...yeah right...an u har bredda maid...how she watch u...tru spy vision...anyting fi a lawsuit dese day
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Cooper's lawyer acknowledged in court that Stockett gave her a copy

[blugiant]

Re: The Help

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
the book is a good read...it is not any one person's story but can be the story of many a one who lived n worked as a maid in that period

the book is a work of fiction wich does touch on some reality...

it is as good a read as was waiting to exhale in terms of touching on subject matter that can be subjective r not...

geez...half of the people on this board dont read a book...di odda half get dem views from group think

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did natt read dat book ar waitinn to xxhale.

still mii tink itt deserve a place nexx to rise aff de planet aff ape

[evanovitch]

Re: The Help

u know i read many a book an wid some u can read the intent is to malign

some r just writings...

wat is sad is the inability of many to read , evaluate n conclude the difference

dat is wat is the sad commentary

to say the book is racist is to say that the subject matter not relevant.....

dat is y some black kids acting like di fools some a dem depicting...

dat is y some black kids dissing ole black peeps n mekking dem fraid to sit on dem own porch

nobody naw teach dem wat it was really like.

wat shocks me is dat it even reach Jcans,,,,i use to think we were thinking people , able to evaluate on merit

now it seems., some of us jine di waggonist bangwagon....just complain widdout read r read n have no bloody clue

F E H

soon hear a one seh dat my guy who wrote Roots was wrong fi show blacks in dat light plus him was wrong fi include seh Malcolm was a drug using , white ooman having pimp at one time in his life


F E H

[evanovitch]

mek mi ask u dis Blu...u hear smaddy seh N wud

do u look around?????

back wen blacks were locked out of movies and Charlton Heston was starring in dem planet of the apes movies...dont u think Hollywood could have used black extras to be di apes if the subject matter was being racist??

i shake mi head sometimes..fi real...

wid dese arguments mi waiting fi see who gwine to come out n seh dem r vampires n dem not tekking it anymore...dem depiction given the current popularity of vampire books an shows

[evanovitch]

Re: mek mi ask u dis Blu...u hear smaddy seh N wud

we are a stagnant people...said furor went on ovah Colour Purple ,

yet now said black people gi di cast standing ovation pon Oprah reunion show


stagnant in dat we carry forward di said chupidness...hail Tyler Perry in drag but deny dat black women were maids who had no voice
BUT still had dem observations

[evanovitch]

Re: mek mi ask u dis Blu...u hear smaddy seh N wud

but bet oonoo would cheer di helper who supposedly folded in har [censored] in di chocolate cake an fed it to the loudest racist women in di book

dat pawt would be valid while di ress a di book scoffed at

i wish i had a [censored] off finger fi post

[blugiant]

Re: The Help

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">u know i read many a book an wid some u can read the intent is to malign

some r just writings...

wat is sad is the inability of many to read , evaluate n conclude the difference

dat is wat is the sad commentary

to say the book is racist is to say that the subject matter not relevant.....

dat is y some black kids acting like di fools some a dem depicting...

dat is y some black kids dissing ole black peeps n mekking dem fraid to sit on dem own porch

nobody naw teach dem wat it was really like.

wat shocks me is dat it even reach Jcans,,,,i use to think we were thinking people , able to evaluate on merit

now it seems., some of us jine di waggonist bangwagon....just complain widdout read r read n have no bloody clue

F E H

soon hear a one seh dat my guy who wrote Roots was wrong fi show blacks in dat light plus him was wrong fi include seh Malcolm was a drug using , white ooman having pimp at one time in his life


F E H </div></div>

evan nuh same ting dem sey bout uncle tom cabin. dat harriet wass bunninn fiyah pon racism ann dat ar book wass natt meant to malign

realitee iss dat a latt aff yaawdees gitt dem start as domestic help ann wat sum aff dem went troo dem doan waan fe chatt bout itt. realitee mii tink itt shood bee ritten bout bye cancious peeps butt iff gawn like blakk domestic help wood sit dunn widd wan young mzungu ann give ar de full 100 iss unbeelievable

[blugiant]

Re: mek mi ask u dis Blu...u hear smaddy seh N wud

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">but bet oonoo would cheer di helper who supposedly folded in har [censored] in di chocolate cake an fed it to the loudest racist women in di book

dat pawt would be valid while di ress a di book scoffed at

i wish i had a [censored] off finger fi post </div></div>

noo dat juss nastee

butt mii cheer dem enslaved oomen wey use fii cook ackee fe dem slavemasters

[evanovitch]

Re: The Help

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">u know i read many a book an wid some u can read the intent is to malign

some r just writings...

wat is sad is the inability of many to read , evaluate n conclude the difference

dat is wat is the sad commentary

to say the book is racist is to say that the subject matter not relevant.....

dat is y some black kids acting like di fools some a dem depicting...

dat is y some black kids dissing ole black peeps n mekking dem fraid to sit on dem own porch

nobody naw teach dem wat it was really like.

wat shocks me is dat it even reach Jcans,,,,i use to think we were thinking people , able to evaluate on merit

now it seems., some of us jine di waggonist bangwagon....just complain widdout read r read n have no bloody clue

F E H

soon hear a one seh dat my guy who wrote Roots was wrong fi show blacks in dat light plus him was wrong fi include seh Malcolm was a drug using , white ooman having pimp at one time in his life


F E H </div></div>

evan nuh same ting dem sey bout uncle tom cabin. dat harriet wass bunninn fiyah pon racism ann dat ar book wass natt meant to malign

realitee iss dat a latt aff yaawdees gitt dem start as domestic help ann wat sum aff dem went troo dem doan waan fe chatt bout itt. realitee mii tink itt shood bee ritten bout bye cancious peeps butt iff gawn like blakk domestic help wood sit dunn widd wan young mzungu ann give ar de full 100 iss unbeelievable

</div></div>

the lady who wrote di book neva seh she a write on the behalf of black maids ...she not being their voice...she lived,grew up in the South and had black maids rung har...if u read di book u get the white voice which believes the decisions made for blacks were for their own good...e.g...di lady who championed her friends to build a separate bathroom juss fi dem black maid n end the practise of the maid using the spare bathroom...cause white guests were using a bathroom a black was using

so the white's discomfort is flipped n is fi di comfort of the black dat a separate bathroom would be better

the book raises a lot of issues that i take at face value dat di white writer would have seen and viewed from her perspective...

u get the notion dat not all were comfortable wid the jim crow laws but were not brave enuff fi be the odd one out...inclusion was better than being ostracized

the book has levels of meaning n ongle the new unwashed and unread would mek fuss cause dem school systems fail dem an dem fambily tree dont fork so dem understanding run on di said straight line wid no deviation fi thought n reason

[Wahalla]

Re: The Help

I heard of this book.. Wasnt interested in reading it....

It struck me as a modern literay equavalent of Gone with the wind....

This is this authours persective...

My mother who I supply with books, might be itnerested in reading it.... .. Evan did you find it a good read???