hey alll u AFRICAN Anerican...mi no memba who tell

[evanovitch]

Re: hey alll u AFRICAN Anerican...mi no memba who tell

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Seveen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">and africans know that black americans descented from africa - they are not ignorant of that fact

but how we grew is different from how they grew - or so we think

too many foods, too many sayings, too many ways have been passed down from our african ancestors and are still being passed on

now i don't profess to having met all the africans on the continent and surveying them statiscally

i can say - the few i have met - have embraced me - and together we connected the bridge that the enslavers never wanted to see connected

but just like the willie lynch letter (which may be fake) some folks still work to divide us - black and white - plenty of black people that hate themselves

my son abu was passed over for adoption by other couples because he was &quot;too black&quot; - smdh

this holiday season we are excited to go to visit our garifuna brothers and sisters, dance punta and explore our connections and my pre-vacation research shows there are many
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hey juss report wat was told to me by a one who had an African at an African border correct his usage....i am amuse by the direction of the discussion....African American is not a legal nationality....i believe it is still American.....i dont think i have ever hear someone at Miami seh i am Afro Caribbean..dem juss seh Jcan r Bajan r Trini

as no one has interviewed the entire continent of Africa on views of the diaspora no one has interviewd the entirre black american pop of 12m in the US on how they define demselves....off the bat i seem to memba dat the last bastions of the brown paper bag club hold out dat dem is juss American

[SandiF]

Re: hey alll u AFRICAN Anerican...mi no memba who tell

I've been asked my nationality a time and two <span style="text-decoration: line-through">a time or to before</span> when entering or departing a foreign country... Respond that my nationality is Jamaican and citizenship American. Always seem an odd question since it's right there in the passport.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">funny enuff i hesitate wen asked my nationality....i find myself having to ask the immigration officers just wat dem mean....cause to me , my nationality is n will always be Jcan (to me)...my current citizenship is American.... </div></div>

[cocoplum]

Re: hey alll u AFRICAN Anerican...mi no memba who tell

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Seveen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">and africans know that black americans descented from africa - they are not ignorant of that fact

but how we grew is different from how they grew - or so we think

too many foods, too many sayings, too many ways have been passed down from our african ancestors and are still being passed on

now i don't profess to having met all the africans on the continent and surveying them statiscally

i can say - the few i have met - have embraced me - and together we connected the bridge that the enslavers never wanted to see connected

but just like the willie lynch letter (which may be fake) some folks still work to divide us - black and white - plenty of black people that hate themselves

my son abu was passed over for adoption by other couples because he was &quot;too black&quot; - smdh

<span style="font-weight: bold">this holiday season we are excited to go to visit our garifuna brothers and sisters, dance punta and explore our connections and my pre-vacation research shows there are many </span> </div></div>

where are you going to experience this culture?

[Seveen]

Re: hey alll u AFRICAN Anerican...mi no memba who tell

your nationality is determined by the passport you carry and yours is america - just like mine

and so anyone that self proclaims themselves in the so called &quot;brown bag or browning club&quot; can pat themselves on the back - at census time they are still black, negro or colored - or they can be a legend in their own mind

there are black americans with white skin - who like me are proud of their african heritage and understand that their skin color is a result of the brutality of slavery - not a badge of pride

[evanovitch]

Re: hey alll u AFRICAN Anerican...mi no memba who tell

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Originally Posted By: Tulip
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The immigration officer; he is an American. What country named Africa America? </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">naw di immigration is a Nigerian n him ask di arriving passenger wat him nationality is...di man seh him was a AFRICAN American...di AFRICAN mek him know dat him is juss an American...nothing African bout him...</div></div>

i agree with tulip...you can only have one nationality- as in the place you were born or naturalized in...he didn't ask him his ethnicity or race, he asked him nationality, which is american regardless of ethnicity...
not to mention, why do we even as jamaicans still call people of chinese descent &quot;chinese&quot; and people of syrian descent &quot;syrian&quot;?
would you also say there is nothing chinese or syrian about them?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i have been talking with a couple around here...n wen i ask about whether it is true they dont see us as being Africans, some go on to explain y..they dont.</div></div>...

this is not true...
you are labeling a whole continent as 'they' and exclaiming to know how those billion people think as one?
it does not matter how anyone sees it...so-called black jamaicans &amp; americans are people of african descent...end of story

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">diffrant nations dem come from on the Continent have some curious reasons...i might write a book on it given dat Peter sang that as long as u r a black man u r an African......</div></div>

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u mite notice dat i say i tek di chance to talk to SOME i encounter n get DERE views re the distance i sense n find in dem....now fi di English lesson...having started out , in referring back to di some, i now use they cause in my superior education bak a yaad in the days it would seem dat schools actually educated, dat is proper use of english....so all ur crap bout labelling is emblematic of ur stalled n shallow mindset...reading is fundamental yes, comprehension follows on from dat..harsh words maybe, but u tend to repeat dis fawt of reasoning

as to end of story, if an African want to seh him dont see me as an African how di [censored] i must tell him dat him is wrong as u a seh ...dat is his opinion....my socialization was not done on the continent in any of the many countries...so maybe he has a point of view as to what constitutues being African...u now r being a bit much is stating dat di ones who refute some of us claim, dat dem di African wrong n u di Jcan is right....kind of ironic , no

an finally, wen blacks in the diaspora ,ur holy self excluded of course, continue to define the shades of black an refer to african black as being the worst end of the shadism to be...wen we decry things African in many a way dat we dont even acknowledge cause spouting Afrocentrism is done more than actually learning who a Bantu is separate n apart from a Zulu or wich nation wears the Kente as opposed to using it as being AFrican period. hey, y blame Africans if they reject disaporans...just like how hiphop reach the continent oonoo eva tink dat the focus of black comedy re the continent has reached to....hellllo

[Seveen]

Re: hey alll u AFRICAN Anerican...mi no memba who tell

yes i understand this - but what do you put on that immigration form?

i'm an african - but my paperwork says USA

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SandiF</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've been asked my nationality a time and two a time or to before when entering or departing a foreign country... Respond that my nationality is Jamaican and citizenship American. Always seem an odd question since it's right there in the passport.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">funny enuff i hesitate wen asked my nationality....i find myself having to ask the immigration officers just wat dem mean....cause to me , my nationality is n will always be Jcan (to me)...my current citizenship is American.... </div></div> </div></div>

[Seveen]

Re: hey alll u AFRICAN Anerican...mi no memba who tell

any african that told me i wasn't of african descent would be laughed at on the spot

[kia027]

Re: hey alll u AFRICAN Anerican...mi no memba who tell



how about DNA - African
race- black
nationality - jamaican ; citizenship - USA

[Seveen]

Re: hey alll u AFRICAN Anerican...mi no memba who tell

did you watch the show that traced DNA back to a particular spot in africa? i saw oprah's and tom joyner i think

i also saw a beautiful movie that traced a song sung by the geechee/gullah population that was traced back to a city in west african - same song - totally preserved


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

how about DNA - African
race- black
nationality - jamaican ; citizenship - USA

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[kia027]

Re: hey alll u AFRICAN Anerican...mi no memba who tell

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Seveen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">did you watch the show that traced DNA back to a particular spot in africa?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

how about DNA - African
race- black
nationality - jamaican ; citizenship - USA

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nope but sounds like a plan!

[Seveen]

Re: hey alll u AFRICAN Anerican...mi no memba who tell

it's called AFRICAN American lives - here's a link:

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/aalives/2006/index.html

[kia027]

Re: hey alll u AFRICAN Anerican...mi no memba who tell

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Seveen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">it's called AFRICAN American lives - here's a link:

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/aalives/2006/index.html

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yes with Prof Gates.. yep saw it..

[jah_yout]

Re: hey alll u AFRICAN Anerican...mi no memba who tell

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">this holiday season we are excited to go to visit our <span style="font-weight: bold">garifuna</span> brothers and sisters, dance punta and explore our connections and my pre-vacation research shows there are many </div></div>

i have some good garifuna friends...
fascinating people...very interesting

[jah_yout]

Re: hey alll u AFRICAN Anerican...mi no memba who tell

i never claimed to be holy...

but what do <span style="font-weight: bold">you</span> call a chinese person?

if you call them a yellow american or a yellow jamaican then my reasoning finished...

this bag a long talk about how africa this &amp; black that &amp; shade this blah blah blah...

to me it's no mystery...if your foreparents came from africa you are african racially...

&quot;black&quot; can be used to describe africans but is not specific to africans or those of african descent...

africa is a continent-- a large one &amp; the most diverse one of all---
so generalizing is pretty useless

[jah_yout]

Re: hey alll u AFRICAN Anerican...mi no memba who tell

how about

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">DNA - African</div></div>

for me, DNA = human

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">race- black</div></div>

race= African...since many papua new guineans, australians, south asians &amp; pacific islanders are also 'black' as far as having the same skin colors as africans

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">nationality - jamaican ; citizenship - USA</div></div>

agreed