6 killed in West Kgn in gunbattle

**Tuff Gong** · 03-06-2012, 08:06 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: xigaM</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: moi</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Fi wah must wi die? Afta wi nuh hogs!
Hunted and penned in a garrison yard,
While round us MP an Don look vote like hungry dogs,
Making their false promises, but dem all a liard.

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Dat to........ but they said they killed off all the dons in 2010!

**Tuff Gong** · 03-06-2012, 11:05 PM

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It is rather amazing the nuanced arguments that are used when Jamaicans are killed in Jamaica.
When it is someone from the upper/white/monied class ....we get the inevitable .......itsonly because they are.....Some folks even get excited.

When folks from the hellholes are removed from the face of the Rock ....
The argument about Dons, shielding criminals, they should not be in the path of bullets, their political choices come into focus.

I overstand these are valid emotions, but I think the State should be interrogated as to how this human came to die....especially if it is by the hand of the Agents of the State.

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THE Police have released the names of the six persons who were shot and killed during a gun-battle in Denham Town yesterday.
Their identities are:
Romaine Stern, also called 'Tete [censored]', of a Charles Street address, in his late 20’s. Stern has been listed several times as a person of interest. He was wanted by the police for crimes including murders, shooting with intent and several robberies. ‘Tete [censored]’ was seen by the police as one of the main criminal players in the area who recruited other criminals from the general West Kingston area, Southside in Central Kingston, Standpipe in St Andrew Central, Spanish Town and areas of the St Andrew South Division.;
Shawn Tyrell, also called 'Chinnie Man' (25) of an Oxford Street address. Tyrell was wanted for several crimes including murder, and shooting with intent;
Karlton Alvaranga, also called 'Kiro' and 'Killer Blacks' (26) of a Fleet Street address in Central Kingston. He was known to be a leading member of the New World Order gang which operates in the Kingston Eastern and Western Police Divisions. He was involved in a number of murders and shooting incidents;
George Edmonson in his mid-sixties and a resident of Bond Street;
Wesley Simpson in his mid-sixties and a resident of Charles Street; and
Niketa Cameron (13 years old) of a Charles Street address.
The police say they took all possible precautions to minimise civilian and police casualties.
The cops say at first approach to the criminals who were located on premises at 88 Charles Street, they were met with gunfire. The police say they responded and were engaged by criminals in a running gun fight through several premises and across several streets in the area.
When the smoke cleared, the six persons were fatally shot and two injured. Four weapons were also seized by the Police.

**Tuff Gong** · 03-07-2012, 03:16 PM

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The Independent Jamaica Council for Human Rights (IJCHR) has called for a "survey" to determine the status of the "thousands" of police killings that have been investigated by the Bureau of Special Investigations (BSI).

IJCHR Chairman Arlene Harrison-Henry said the BSI, which was established in 1999 to probe incidents involving members of the Jamaica Constabulary Force (JCF), has investigated scores of cases and there has to be some accountability.

"What has been the outcome of all of these investigations? Because that we don't know," Harrison-Henry told The Gleaner last night.

She added: "I personally fail to accept, based on my own work and where I sit, that each one (of these cases) is as a result of criminal confrontation."

<span style="font-weight: bold">Police Killings Spark Outrage</span>

**Tuff Gong** · 03-07-2012, 03:18 PM

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<span style="font-weight: bold">Residents Recount Police Operation In West Kgn</span>
Published: Wednesday | March 7, 20127 Comments

Tanisha Stewart shows a photograph yesterday of her niece, Nicketa Cameron (left in photograph), who was shot and killed in Denham Town on Monday. - Gladstone Taylor/Photographer
Livern Barrett, Gleaner Writer

Residents of Denham Town in west Kingston yesterday painted a picture of terror as they recounted Monday's police operation that left six persons dead.

Four of the victims have been identified. They are 88-year-old Wesley Simpson, Carlos Alveranga, 26, Ramon Stern, 29, more popularly known as 'Tete [censored]', and Nicketa Cameron, a 13-year-old student.

Police sources say Stern and another man known only as 'Kiro', who is also among those killed, were wanted for questioning for various crimes committed in the area and were the targets of the operation.

An elderly man identified by residents only as 'Fenceman' was also killed in what the police say was "a running and intense gunbattle involving the police and criminals".

However, Cameron's aunt and 11-year-old sister, who both claimed they witnessed the shooting, told a different story and said Cameron's quick thinking when the incident started may have saved her sister's life.

According to Cameron's sibling, the two were talking in the doorway of their home on Charles Street when gunfire rang out.

"We just hear 'bow, bow, bow' and she get the first one (gunshot) and she push me inna di house," the child told The Gleaner.

"When we come out back, we see har pon the ground and she did a bleed, but dem time deh she neva dead so we rush wid har go hospital," she said.

Fired over fence

Cameron's aunt, Tanisha Stewart, said she was in the alley way of the large tenement yard with Simpson and the two sisters when the police showed up.

"Dem put the guns over the zinc (fence) and start firing," she alleged.

Stewart said this was when Stern, Simpson and Cameron were shot and insisted there was no shootout.

"We need help ... we need help 'cause dem a shoot we like we deh a Afghanistan or dem place deh whey have war," Stewart said through tears.

She added: "So wha me waan know is if we no have no justice inna west Kingston."

Director of Communications for the Jamaica Constabulary Force (JCF) Karl Angell, in a statement released after the incident, said three of those killed in the "running and intense gunbattle" were wanted for various crimes committed in the Kingston Western and Kingston Central police divisions.

"The other three persons, including the lone female, are believed to have been killed during the course of the gunbattle," Angell said.

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**jah_yout** · 03-07-2012, 05:21 PM

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in jamaica the term 'security forces' is an oxymoron

**mangoskin** · 03-07-2012, 05:43 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KF_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

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"beg u a trix, nuh?"

think Mama get to see the Prince.....

**mangoskin** · 03-07-2012, 05:46 PM

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..the <span style="text-decoration: line-through">crazy</span> adventurous tourists might spen plenty to visit battleground sites in Ja, along lines of "this is Dudus childhood home." "This is where he was caught." This is where he bought the wig an dress they ketch him in"...etc..

**RichD** · 03-07-2012, 05:47 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mangoskin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">..the <span style="text-decoration: line-through">crazy</span> adventurous tourists might spen plenty to visit battleground sites in Ja, along lines of "this is Dudus childhood home." "This is where he was caught." This is where he bought the wig an dress they ketch him in"...etc.. </div></div>

you going to jump on that business opportunity?

**mangoskin** · 03-07-2012, 05:53 PM

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from a great distance-offering t shirts, drinks, chips an trix

**Tuff Gong** · 03-08-2012, 12:17 AM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mangoskin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">..the <span style="text-decoration: line-through">crazy</span> adventurous tourists might spen plenty to visit battleground sites in Ja, along lines of "this is Dudus childhood home." "This is where he was caught." This is where he bought the wig an dress they ketch him in"...etc.. </div></div>

Best suggestion so far.......
Why not change the winner cities into Tourism All-Inclusives?

**Tuff Gong** · 03-08-2012, 04:36 AM

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<span style="font-size: 14pt">Residents claim more than two persons injured in West Kgn operation</span>

BY KIMMO MATTHEWS Observer staff reporter [email protected]
Thursday, March 08, 2012

WEST Kingston residents have accused the police of hiding the real number of persons injured during Monday's operation that left six persons, including a 13-year-old girl, dead.
At the time, the police reported that only two people were injured.
"At least five people get shot during the series of operations in West Kingston on Monday," said Samantha, who was among a large group of residents from Charles Street who protested in the streets yesterday.
They residents made accusation as Opposition Leader Andrew Holness and West Kingston Member of Parliament Desmond McKenzie toured the area.
Police on Monday alleged that they went in the area in search of criminal elements when they were shot at by men at a premises on Charles Street.
They returned fire, and during the alleged shoot-out, six persons were killed -- three of whom the police later said were wanted for various crimes, including murder.
However, among the dead were also two elderly men, George Edmonson and Wesley Simpson and teenager Niketa Cameron.
The shootings have sparked outcry, with rights group Jamaicans for Justice and the Independent Commission of Investigations as well as the Office of the Public Defender expressing alarm that more than 20 people were killed by the police between March 1 and 5.
The killings have since drawn the attention of Amnesty International, which called for the authorities to mount an effective investigation into recent and past police operations.
"The recent wave of police killings in Jamaica is shocking but unfortunately not unprecedented," the group said in a release issued yesterday.
"The problem is that police continue to enter marginalised inner-city communities as if everyone there is a criminal suspect," it added.
Yesterday, Errol Tracey -- who appeared well in his 50s -- said he, too, was injured in the incident. He claimed that the police were firing wildly in the area.
"I don't know what the woman in the crowd said to the officer, same time the policeman just fired into the crowd and walked away," said Tracey, noting that he bystanders rushed him to a hospital.
He said another woman was also shot and injured during the incident. Other residents concurred, some saying that the operation brought back memories of the May 2010 operation to apprehend then don Christopher 'Dudus' Coke in nearby Tivoli Gardens, which left more than 70 persons dead.
"At about midday, the police them run in a the yard with them guns blazing," said Isabelle Stern, the sister of one of the men killed.
"Them say them kill me brother running, but how him fi a run when him foot break?" the woman asked.
Samantha Breaker, an 18-year-old who was left bedridden after she was also shot during the operation, said she was still in shock.
"I was sitting down in a section of the yard when I heard the shots and saw a police team running into the yard," said Breaker.
Meanwhile, Beverly Kennedy, the mother of the 13-year-old dead girl, wept openly.
"There are more than 30 people living in the yard, and when the police them run in, them just start to fire shots wildly," Kennedy alleged.
"When the police them run in the yard, me daughter was on the ground crying out; is more than five shot she get," the woman wailed.
Yesterday, following the many complaints, Holness and McKenzie called on the Police High Command to carry out a thorough investigation

**Tuff Gong** · 03-08-2012, 12:56 PM

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**Cultcha** · 03-08-2012, 01:06 PM

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30 seconds in!!!!

WT Bloody H \o/

**Tuff Gong** · 03-08-2012, 01:15 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KF_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">30 seconds in!!!!

WT Bloody H \o/

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So the accounts of the Residents to lie that folks were walking around while bullets were being traded. One earlier account had the sister of the 13 year old gun-girl praising her from saving her life, even as the sister lost hers. They were standing in their doorway when shooting started.

**Tuff Gong** · 03-08-2012, 01:30 PM

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You know this could not be far behind:

<span style="font-size: 14pt">Men Detained In West Kingston Operation[</span>
Published: Thursday March 8, 2012 | 12:07 pm0 Comments
Dozens of young men were detained this morning in Denham Town, Kingston in a massive police operation which started at 4.30 a.m.