6 killed in West Kgn in gunbattle

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">why yuh post it in here? </div></div>

LOL Wendy not used to Human Rights issues!

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WeNdY_PeNdY</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well do you have a zip for crying out loud!! Anything?? </div></div>....Raw Porn did!

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This on kept quiet. 26 bodies in 22 Days!

url=http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/Cops-kill-man-in-St-James#ixzz1pzhEFven]<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Cops kill man in St James</span>[/url]
<span style="font-style: italic">Jamaica Observer
Friday, March 23, 2012</span>

THE Bureau of Special Investigations (BSI) is now probing the circumstances surrounding yesterday's fatal shooting of an unidentified man by the Police at Albion Road in Montego Bay, St James, about 2:00 pm.
The body is fair-skinned, medium build and about 173 centimetres (five feet eight inches) long. It was clad in a cream-coloured shirt, black jeans pants and a pair of black shoes.
The matter has been reported to the Independent Commission of Investigations (INDECOM).

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<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">JFJ, civic groups protest police killings</span>
<span style="font-style: italic">By KIMMO MATTHEWS Observer staff reporter
[email protected]
Tuesday, March 27, 2012</span>



<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'"> The protest outside the Ministry of National Security offices this morning</span>. <span style="font-style: italic">(Photo: Kimmo Matthews)</span>

HUMAN rights lobby group Jamaicans For Justice (JFJ) and other civic groups this morning protested in front of the Ministry of National Security on Oxford Road, against the raft of police killings.

&quot;The aim of the protest is to raise concern over the number of police shootings across the island,&quot; said Susan Goffe, chairperson of JFJ.
Goffe told the Jamaica Observer that the protest was to send a message to the authorities that a greater level of responsibility would have to be exercised by members of the island's security forces.

&quot;We are looking to the [security forces] to take us to a day when controversial police shootings will be a thing of the past,&quot; said one of the protesters.

JFJ officials said the protest would continue until 10:00 am.
More than 40 persons have been killed during controversial police operations since the start of the year, JFJ said.

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<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Shot At Close Range</span>
<span style="font-style: italic">Published: Thursday | March 29, 20120</span>



INDECOM to ramp up probe in wake of autopsy findings
<span style="font-style: italic">Livern Barrett, Gleaner Writer</span>

Giving his 'summary of opinion' as to the cause of death, Rao wrote that <span style="font-size: 14pt">Gordon was shot nine times, three of which &quot;were perforating wounds&quot;.</span>

The report said Gordon, a married mother of two daughters, died &quot;instantaneously&quot; after one of the bullets struck her in the head.

&quot;Injury Nos. 2 and 3 showed blackening, burning and tattooing indicating the shot (was) fired from a close range within 50cm from the muscle end,&quot; Rao wrote.

Added Rao: &quot;All shots, except injury Nos. 4, 6, 9, and 2 are most likely sustained when the deceased was in a standing position.&quot;

He said the &quot;pattern and severity&quot; of the injuries indicated the use of &quot;high-powered rifled firearm&quot; and said this was confirmed by fragments that were retrieved at the scene.

Rao said Gordon also had two lacerated wounds on the right forearm, which were due to fragment impact injuries.

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<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Police Extrajudicial Killings As State Policy</span>
<span style="font-style: italic">Published: Thursday | March 29, 20121</span>


<span style="font-style: italic">Commissioner of Police Owen Ellington (centre) with Minister of National Security Peter Bunting in the Golden Mews community off St John's Road. The minister was on a tour of communities in the Spanish Town area with members of the security forces on Wednesday, February 22. - file</span>

THE EDITOR, Sir:

<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">A FEW weeks ago, while telling the nation of his plan to reduce murders to one per day by 2017, National Security Minister Peter Bunting told the police force that one of the strategies to use in achieving that reduction would be the 'Tivoli paradigm'.</span> The May 2010 Tivoli Gardens operations, as Mr Bunting knows very well, resulted in the deaths of at least 73 people - some residents say as many 200 people may have been killed. There were widespread allegations of systematic, house-to-house executions of young men, which was widely reported in the media. Peter Bunting could not have been unaware of this.

Indeed, the then opposition People's National Party (PNP) made little noise about the widespread abuse of human rights resulting from that operation. Bunting himself signalled his approval of the operation by crediting it with the dismantling of the Shower Posse and a consequent reduction in the murder rate. That certainly would have been the basis upon which he was recommending this successful Tivoli paradigm.

<span style="text-decoration: underline">Responsible for policy</span>

Immediately after that Tivoli paradigm statement there was a marked escalation in the number of people killed by the police, and Peter Bunting cannot escape the implications of the message he sent to the police with that statement. As minister of national security he is, after all, responsible for setting policing policy.

<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Prior to the recent dramatic escalation in police killings, the police commissioner, Owen Ellington, had been on record denying that police deliberately kill people.</span> Certainly, he made this claim while appearing on the morning show 'Jamaica Speaks'. As a result of public outcry over the spike in police killings, the police commissioner seems to have backtracked on that position, now claiming that there have been &quot;unnecessary and oftentimes unwarranted&quot; killings. Question is: how did he not know this before his statement denying such killings?

Significantly, even before the bloodstains had dried, the police commissioner congratulated the security forces on a job well done in the May 2010 operations. The fact that two political administrations have tolerated him as police commissioner; that the most two recent ministers of national security, one <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">(Dwight Nelson) approving police &quot;collateral damage&quot; and calling the Tivoli operations a &quot;template&quot; for the rest of the inner cities</span>; and now his successor, Peter Bunting, following the same beat, makes it crystal clear that police extrajudicial killings is not the work of untrained or rogue policemen. Rather, it is a policy of state sanctioned by governments and duly executed by the police, beginning at the highest level.

The greatest proof of extrajudicial killings as a state policy is that the May 2010 Tivoli Gardens massacre has not been investigated, and there is no indication that it will ever be properly investigated.

[RichD]

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yuh know this kind of policy is what you hear talked about at many &quot;upper class&quot; gatherings. I am not surprised that they are pursuing it and know they have the blessing of ther financial backers.

in November i was at alumni gathering and had a very long discussion with a old school mate who was advocating this very approach(coincidentally he was a university cohort of Bunting at McGill)
he wrote a letter to the gleaner on the topic ...i must go see if i can find it

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yuh know this kind of policy is what you hear talked about at many &quot;upper class&quot; gatherings. I am not surprised that they are pursuing it and know they have the blessing of ther financial backers.

in November i was at alumni gathering and had a very long discussion with a old school mate who was advocating this very approach(coincidentally he was a university cohort of Bunting at McGill)
he wrote a letter to the gleaner on the topic ...i must go see if i can find it </div></div>

Yep the Jamaican State has successfully sold Crime as a method of Crime-control!

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T<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">he police, fatal shootings, Police Federation, JFJ and INDECOM</span>

<span style="font-style: italic">Friday, March 30, 2012</span>

<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">The following was submitted by a long-serving policeman who asked for anonymity.</span>

THE last 17 days have been haunting and troubling. Simply put, it has been the worst of times. Let us try to disaggregate the various situations that have confronted us as a people celebrating our 50th year of Independence.

Three recent fatal shootings by the police have angered the society to the point where many of us are calling for blood — the blood that is, of the police.

The six persons who were killed in Denham Town included a 13-year-old girl and two elderly men. There was a shoot-out lasting anywhere from 40 minutes to an hour. Even the MP for the area confirmed this publicly. The police, through their main spokesman, some three hours after the incident in a public interview, confirmed the deaths without trying to put a spin on the situation.

The spokesperson from the Independent Commission of Investigations (INDECOM) on the same programme (Nationwide at 5) spoke at length, giving details as if he was present during the time of the incident. Of course, he was not, and based his answers on persons spoken to, who claimed to have been or may have even been on the scene when the incident took place.

This seems to be common practice by INDECOM and Mr Williams must stop this unhealthy disclosure. When the facts are in hand speak as much as you want, but before, limit public comments so as not to ignite public passion. Investigate, find the truth, based on evidence, and if the police are culpable, let the full weight of the law decide their destiny.

The killing of the woman who was shot in Cassava Piece appears to be quite different. The police have not commented much on this fatal shooting, but again INDECOM officials have been spewing forth unsubstantiated utterances. Their spokesperson, a lady with a lovely voice but whose name I can't remember at this time, gave a rather lengthy radio interview speaking about spent shells and the fact that residents of Cassava Piece were handing over spent shells to their investigators.

Goodly lady, I would have thought that a reminder to these same citizens to not tamper with a crime scene would have been better than a mouthful of unsubstantiated facts. The Cassava Piece killing, from all appearances, does not bode well for the police; again, let INDECOM investigate before casting judgement.

The killing of the Immaculate schoolgirl is shrouded in mystery. I won't even try to understand or unravel that incident. The police have a lot to answer, as there are many questions. Let INDECOM investigate, and let the chips fall where they may.

Believing in Williams and INDECOM is without doubt on my part, yet I have to chide the sartorial gentleman for his faux pas of attending the press conference hosted by Jamaicans For Justice. Sir, with respect, you erred and you must be man enough to admit your miscalculation.

It is incompatible for you to be sitting beside Mrs Gomes, whose only purpose in life is to punish the police and make derogatory comments about police actions, sometimes based on premature evidence. Mr Williams, you are independent and you must remain so.
To the geniuses in the Police Federation, the time for a rethink of your recent positions is now. As an organisation you have never been able to garner public opinion and now your ramblings have made it worse. There are established protocols and norms when dealing with disputes by trade unions and staff associations. Before strike action and calls for resignation are venomously spewed, there must first be a call for dialogue.
It cannot be accepted that dialogue comes after inflaming the situation. Sirs and Mesdames of the Police Federation, regain some credibility by supporting your commissioner as he tries to clean up the force and inculcate respect for the human rights of all. And please, urge your chairman to smile when on television. If he is not so endowed, then use another member of your executive. He frowns and frowns, which cannot win hearts and minds, not even those of the members of the police he leads as chairman.

Like I believe in Mr Williams, I have even stronger belief in Owen Ellington. In the two or so years he has been in charge of the police, the changes he has made have been significantly for the better. Based on media reports, which is the only means I have at my disposal, there is a commendable assault on corruption within the JCF. Only a force free from corruption can adequately understand and respect human rights.

Again, based on media reports, Mr Ellington has proposed alterations to the police's Use of Force Policy. Commendations, Mr Ellington, these are timely interventions, but you must see them through, despite opposition which you will inevitably find from within.

You have many detractors who oppose your stance on corruption and your desire to professionalise the force. Your history will be judged in part by how firmly you stand and beat back your sizeable opposition.

Just as how Mr Ellington is leading change in the JCF and retrofitting the police, JFJ must also rethink their position and remove themselves from being portrayed as an uptown organisation of housewives of a particular hue revelling in proceeds from overseas funding agencies.

JFJ openly admit that their main remit is the protection of human rights for all. Yet they have set as their main target the police. I can understand this position, especially given where their funds are derived from. When the phrase human rights for all is used it means just that — for all.

I hope that in the future when there are beheadings by criminals, JFJ members will lead the march in Lauriston or Salt Springs. So, too, as citizens of Jamaica in her 50th year of Independence, I would have loved to hear a comment from the JFJ executive members about the ill-treatment of our fishermen by Mexican authorities and the rather passive and ineffective response from our embassy staff in Mexico. Isn't the embassy a part of the State apparatus?

JFJ, while your emphasis might be on abuses by State officials, your remit must be more. Speak up against the criminals and the fact that over 1,000 Jamaicans are murdered each year.

Again, based on figures I have obtained from one of our daily newspapers, the number of fatal shootings for this year is actually less than this time last year and 2011. Based on figures found on the police website there were 69 fewer fatal shootings than in 2010. Please understand, Mrs Gomes and Mrs Goffe, the figures are still too high, but I was shocked to find out that the figures are actually lower than last year, yet there was no public outcry then.

It does seem that JFJ are just seeking public attention to enhance their position. It is time that human rights for all includes the victims of crime and all Jamaicans, including State officials and their right for due process. JFJ, in your 13 years of existence, you have made a tremendous impact, but I now fear you have become stereotypical and simply not progressing.

<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Mrs Gomes, you look and speak with dislike and hatred in your eyes. Take a look at Mrs Goffe and the way she quietly but effectively presents the positions of JFJ. As Jamaicans say; cheese to chalk. Mrs Gomes, you might be harming the image and prestige of JFJ by your lack of appreciation of the persons you are supposed to be communicating with. Maybe, just maybe, your time has come to an end. Think about it!
Finally</span>, to my fellow Jamaicans, don't put up with foolishness. Report any wrongdoings by the police, politicians and others. Don't be afraid, supply the police with information, tell Mr Williams and his people about any unprofessional conduct by the police, and seek assistance from JFJ when you are wronged.

Let us together pull Jamaica from the quagmire of doom and gloom and let's celebrate 50 years of Independence with renewed pride.

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jamaica needs a massive occupy-like major demonstration that will bring it to world attention...

the prime ministers and politicians are apparently useless when it comes to tackling the issue of police murder...

only world attention and shame might prod them to actually do something rather than the lip-service they have been paying for over 2 decades...

notice nothing is ever done...joke business