What was "suspicious" about Trayvon Martin ?

**lonewolf** · 03-22-2012, 03:28 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> ok i will attempt to explain...</div></div>

Thank you, I appreciate your thoughtful response.

**evanovitch** · 03-22-2012, 03:32 PM

listen to dis n tell if u hear di racial slur

Did George Zimmerman Use A Racial Slur?

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/03/did-george-zimmerman-use-a-racial-slur/254925/

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**lonewolf** · 03-22-2012, 03:40 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style="font-weight: bold">it is not being ignored..it is unrelated</span>. the circumstance are what makes the case</div></div>

Maybe, but the end result and body count is a lot worse

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">are young black men being murdered by other young black men under the guise of "law enforcement </div></div>

I think so...and I'm in agreement with your statement.

**ILP** · 03-22-2012, 05:15 PM

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Mi was lissning Star Jones (of all people) this morning and she was chatting har opinion of the case. And you know...she said some real interesting things as it relates to law and then the "law of public opinion"

1. She said that if...and then she said a big if...this Zim person gets arrested. Prosecutors will have a real hard boat to row, as the very items they need are not there. They dont have it, as the police did a reprehensibly horrible job gathering evidence. They plane and simple didnt do the job. They have the statements of 1 person, but the other person is dead. The witnesses werent pressed for info...and the witnesses that they did get...the officers simply "corrected them" and then filed those reports. Which is at the crux of Treyvons parent's complaint.
2. She also said, what grieves her most....which is what grieves me now that i think of it...is that this man decided that he was going to violate this boy's constitutional rights by asking him to proove who he was in his own neighbourhood. Only police/law enforcement can ask a person to proove who they are. Put aside the chasing/stalking/racial slurs...and it is hard to do, very hard. This Zim person took it upon himself to stop and try hold another human being...an American citizen...to proove that he lived in the neighbourhood. This kid died during that. On THAT fact alone...the police shouldve had something to say to Zim. The fact that they didn't/havent is what grieves me (and Star) most.

It hurts me, but when the dust settles and/or the public bores of it and moves on. There will be another Trayvon. This Zim person will most likely get little or no jail time for this.

**mangoskin** · 03-22-2012, 05:57 PM

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what will be the effect on fl's tourism now that foreign tourists are now aware of the 'stand your ground law'

**mangoskin** · 03-22-2012, 06:14 PM

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foreign correspondant's are in Sanford to cover the story & demo, world-wide interest
Former Gov Jeb Bush supported & signed 'stand your ground' law

**barosa** · 03-22-2012, 06:20 PM

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Comments on the Below Statements...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-style: italic">By Skelly </span>:
But even worse, what millions of black parents in America must be feeling at this time. I think back to the days when little girls were being bombed in churches, young black men were being slaughtered just because they were black, and I feel horrified because not much has changed. I grieve for these parents, because even though we are in the 21st century and we teach our children that everything is better now, it really is not. Is it any wonder that mothers of young black boys and men are horrified at the racism directed at them from birth? </div></div>
So true, Skelly. I can remember the happenings during the period of the Civil Rights Struggle and it wasn't pretty. You have reminded me what it was like to be a black minority in the "south" or other regions for that matter..

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-style: italic">By Lornwolf </span>:
This would be funny if it weren't so sad. The number one threat of death of a young black male in the US is from another young black male. That's a fact you cannot dispute.
It's not from the police or a white racist or for that matter a hispanic neighbor hood patrol nutcase.

Why is it that hundreds if not thousands of young black males are murdered each year in the US by other young black males and you all convienently ignore that issue, but this issue causes such a stir?
Please explain...</div></div>
No amount of explanation would be enough to convince the likes of Lornwolf that talking about "black on black" crime at the moment, has no relevance whatever, to what is being discussed.. It just goes to show the mindset and insensitivity of some individuals. - If ever it could be introduced it, it would be to show the link between <span style="font-weight: bold">entrenched jim crow racism of the past</span> to the "law and order kind" that is currently ubiquitous throughout the length and breadth of North America.. - Zimmermand should be arrested, locked up and face a jury of his peers..

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**evanovitch** · 03-22-2012, 06:28 PM

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so di police chief has temporarily resigned....new one dat..

**mangoskin** · 03-22-2012, 06:33 PM

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temporarily stepped down, but he can of course be fired. Ironically he was brought in 9 months ago to clean up the police force

**mangoskin** · 03-22-2012, 06:37 PM

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at least now many ppl are aware of the frightening 'stand your ground' laws in 20 states....
Laws pushed by the NRA

**evanovitch** · 03-22-2012, 06:38 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mangoskin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">temporarily stepped down, but he can of course be fired. Ironically he was brought in 9 months ago to clean up the police force </div></div>

and dat case was because dem wudden charge the son of a cop who had assaulted a black smaddy...

the wording of the news report is dat him temporarily resigned....aint dat an oxymoron?

**barosa** · 03-22-2012, 06:38 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WeNdY_PeNdY</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">. I’m surprised that President Obama has not had at least one assassination attempt at this point.</div></div>

BTW Skells.. Just an FYI, the FBI and secret service has been very busy chasing leads of hatred and "death wish" towards the Prez. It is not front page news for obvious reasons but had this been 1960 something with security paled in comparison to 21rs century .. less computer technology (Internet etc) .. he probably would have been shot dead already.

I forgot where I read that this Prez has faced a record amount of death threats since JFK. </div></div>
Wendy, I hope you haven't forgotten about that crazy dude that took a shot at a White House window sometime last year. He was subsequently arrested and nothing have been heard of him since.. Let's us hope that there will be no other future incident..
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**mangoskin** · 03-22-2012, 06:47 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mangoskin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">temporarily stepped down, but he can of course be fired. Ironically he was brought in 9 months ago to clean up the police force </div></div>

and dat case was because dem wudden charge the son of a cop who had assaulted a black smaddy...

the wording of the news report is dat him temporarily resigned....aint dat an oxymoron? </div></div>i watched his press conference, he said temporarily step aside-probably on youtube by now

**mangoskin** · 03-22-2012, 06:50 PM

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ironically, city manager bonaparte, a black man, can fire him

**Gen** · 03-22-2012, 09:57 PM

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well there was a "<span style="font-weight: bold">no confidence</span>" vote fi him yessideh (I believe the mayor had a vote in that meeting but mi could be wrong). a hope him tek him pick up truck and galang uppa the gulf guh tek up fishing permanently

him nuh good fi nothing else

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so di police chief has temporarily resigned....new one dat.. </div></div>