Question for those who live in the USA

[Ensomgirl]

Re: Question for those who live in the USA

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jamaica_dreamin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
&quot;Pink slip Rick&quot; (the idiot gov of Florida has already stated that he will not enact the expansion of Medicaid or state insurance purchasing pool. Because of this Floridians will not benefit but will pay penalties for not having insurance so people will blame Obama and Florida will continue to have high % of uninsured. </div></div>

I cannot stand that &amp;*^%. I'll be so glad when they get rid of him.

I hate him for other reasons as well.

[jamaica_dreamin]

Re: Question for those who live in the USA

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ensome</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=jamaica_dreamin]
&quot;Pink slip Rick&quot; (the idiot gov of Florida has already stated that he will not enact the expansion of Medicaid or state insurance purchasing pool. Because of this Floridians will not benefit but will pay penalties for not having insurance so people will blame Obama and Florida will continue to have high % of uninsured. </div></div>

I cannot stand that &amp;*^%. I'll be so glad when they get rid of him.

I hate him for other reasons as well. [/quote

There is not enough time left in my life to tell you all the reason that I detest the thiefin piece of excrement!

[Ensomgirl]

Re: Question for those who live in the USA

No raises for teachers for about 5 years now. And then he taxes us an additional 3%. Really??? So now we bring home less than before with the price of everything increasing. Let me stop here. This is a G-Rated board.

[jamaica_dreamin]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ensome</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No raises for teachers for about 5 years now. And then he taxes us an additional 3%. Really??? So now we bring home less than before with the price of everything increasing. Let me stop here. This is a G-Rated board. </div></div>

I am in the same no raises 3% FRS boat!

[evanovitch]

Re: Question for those who live in the USA

Americans have dis ting about Government in dem private life n dem choices....go figga....dem is a set of funny people.....preffah to believe dem leading di world rada dan tek care of demselves...i live dere now fi 35 years n still dont figga out di thinking

[SandiF]

Re: Question for those who live in the USA

good to see you jamaica_dreamin

I'm glad you said this because that is exactly what one friend of my husband keep saying that with Obamacare people will end up paying penalties for not having insurance. I know it cannot be true but not clear on where some people getting that idea.

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&quot;Pink slip Rick&quot; (the idiot gov of Florida has already stated that he will not enact the expansion of Medicaid or state insurance purchasing pool. Because of this Floridians will not benefit but will pay penalties for not having insurance so people will blame Obama and Florida will continue to have high % of uninsured.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jamaica_dreamin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=SandiF]I really think Obamacare can work but many people (Republicans namely) are against it but what to expect.. They (Repubs) did not have an idea or a plan towards Healthcare reform but President Obama did...

I believe it could work if state governments would cooperate.

MA offers the option of buying health insurance through a state pool with payments based on income. I looked at the plans and prices and have seen much worse. The state has a high % of residents with health insurance. My brother in MA (anti Obama care) claims it caused the premiums on plans through employers to sky rocket. I think they are still better than here in FL.

&quot;Pink slip Rick&quot; (the idiot gov of Florida has already stated that he will not enact the expansion of Medicaid or state insurance purchasing pool. Because of this Floridians will not benefit but will pay penalties for not having insurance so people will blame Obama and Florida will continue to have high % of uninsured. </div></div>

[Tropicana]

Re: Question for those who live in the USA

Wow so many responses. Thank you. I haven't had time to read them but I will when things quieten down for me in a couple of days.

[jamaica_dreamin]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SandiF</div><div class="ubbcode-body">good to see you jamaica_dreamin

I'm glad you said this because that is exactly what one friend of my husband keep saying that with Obamacare people will end up paying penalties for not having insurance. I know it cannot be true but not clear on where some people getting that idea.

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&quot;Pink slip Rick&quot; (the idiot gov of Florida has already stated that he will not enact the expansion of Medicaid or state insurance purchasing pool. Because of this Floridians will not benefit but will pay penalties for not having insurance so people will blame Obama and Florida will continue to have high % of uninsured.


[quote=jamaica_dreamin][quote=SandiF]I really think Obamacare can work but many people (Republicans namely) are against it but what to expect.. They (Repubs) did not have an idea or a plan towards Healthcare reform but President Obama did...

I believe it could work if state governments would cooperate.

MA offers the option of buying health insurance through a state pool with payments based on income. I looked at the plans and prices and have seen much worse. The state has a high % of residents with health insurance. My brother in MA (anti Obama care) claims it caused the premiums on plans through employers to sky rocket. I think they are still better than here in FL.

&quot;Pink slip Rick&quot; (the idiot gov of Florida has already stated that he will not enact the expansion of Medicaid or state insurance purchasing pool. Because of this Floridians will not benefit but will pay penalties for not having insurance so people will blame Obama and Florida will continue to have high % of uninsured. </div></div> </div></div>


Hi Sandi,

I believe that people with no health insurance will have to pay a penalty when they file taxes. I think I heard that it will start out small like $75. There is likely some income requirement to having to pay.

If the states would cooperate by expanding Medicaid people than can not afford to pay for health care would be covered. If they would establish the state purchasing pools more people would be able to afford to buy health insurance. As i said before the rates in MA through the state plan did not look sp bad (it would be cheaper than putting my family on my insurance through m employer in FL)

Some Republican gov's like pink slip Rick refuse to do what was not mandated in order to sabotage the plan and make people vote against Obama. They would rather do him in the help their citizens. After all, they have their priorities!

[Ensomgirl]

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JD, I received this e-mail this morning.


<span style="font-style: italic">On Monday former presidential candidate Gov. Rick Perry announced Texas would not implement Obamacare, claiming that he &quot;wasn't going to be a part of expanding socializing of our medicine.&quot;

He and governors like Governor Rick Scott here in Florida are standing in the way of health care coverage for millions of people. Will you sign my petition to Governor Rick Scott and pass it on?

The petition says:

&quot;Implement the Affordable Care Act. It is the law.&quot;

Click here to sign it:

http://www.signon.org/sign/governor-...32OTNx&amp;t=1 </span>

[jamaica_dreamin]

Re: Question for those who live in the USA

Ensome,

Thank you. Yes, I will sign.

[lonewolf]

Re: Question for those who live in the USA

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ensome</div><div class="ubbcode-body">JD, I received this e-mail this morning.


<span style="font-style: italic">On Monday former presidential candidate Gov. Rick Perry announced Texas would not implement Obamacare, claiming that he &quot;wasn't going to be a part of expanding socializing of our medicine.&quot;

He and governors like Governor Rick Scott here in Florida are standing in the way of health care coverage for millions of people. Will you sign my petition to Governor Rick Scott and pass it on?

The petition says:

&quot;<span style="font-weight: bold">Implement the Affordable Care Act. It is the law.&quot;</span>

Click here to sign it:

http://www.signon.org/sign/governor-...32OTNx&amp;t=1 </span> </div></div>





<span style="font-style: italic">Please, read this article. The problem with health care as we speak is the affordability. PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD TO PURCHASE IT. OBAMA CARE or ROMNEY CARE DOES NOT MAKE IT ANY MORE AFFORDABLE</span>.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">Proponents of the law argue that it was mainly designed to expand coverage, not tackle health care costs</span></div></div>


<span style="font-style: italic">If it's not affordable? How can it expand coverage to the masses? Does anyone else find this contradicting or confusing</span>?


Has Mitt Romney’s Massachusetts Health Care Law Worked?
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ABC News' Huma Khan reports: Potential 2012 presidential candidate Mitt Romney will deliver a speech today explaining why, as governor, he signed into law the controversial Massachusetts health care plan that many say is the model for the national law passed last year.

Romney has attempted to stave off criticism from his Republican colleagues on supporting a plan that has all the elements loathed by conservatives, especially the requirement that all state residents must carry insurance. But his message has yet to appease the base.

The Massachusetts health care plan, which celebrated its fifth anniversary on April 12, has met with mixed successes.

Probably the biggest achievement its supporters can tout is the number of people that are now insured. More than 98 percent of Massachusetts’ residents now have insurance, including 99.8 percent of all children, making Massachusetts’ rate of uninsured the lowest in the United States. About 94 percent of state residents were insured before the law took effect in 2006.

Under the law, health insurance for adults earning up to 150 percent of the federal poverty level, and children of parents earning up to 300 percent of that level, is fully subsidized.

About 77 percent of private companies are providing health insurance to their employees, compared to 70 percent before the law was passed, according to the office of Gov. Deval Patrick. The law requires that all employers with more than 11 full-time employees make a “fair and reasonable” contribution toward their workers’ health plans or face penalties.

The mandate that requires all state residents to carry health insurance has also proved to be effective. About 97 percent of taxpayers are complying with that requirement.

The law, however, has failed to curb rising costs. While implementation of the law itself didn’t put a major dent in the state’s budget – according to an analysis by independent group Massachusetts Taxpayer Foundation, the increase in net spending for the law was just 1 percent in fiscal year 2010 – it hasn’t reduced overall costs for policy holders.

Private spending per member grew by 15.5 percent on average between 2006 and 2008. Meanwhile, average premiums for full insurance increased 12.2 percent from 2006 to 2008, according to the Massachusetts Division of Health Care Finance and Policy.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Proponents of the law argue that it was mainly designed to expand coverage, not tackle health care costs</span>. Much of the growth in premiums, per the DHCFP, was caused by an increase in medical expenses. More than 88 percent of premiums in Massachusetts are spent on medical expenses.

<span style="font-weight: bold">But opponents point to the shift in cost burden from employers to individuals as a sign of the law’s weakness. The median health insurance premium for a policy holder in Massachusetts was $442 in 2009, a 21 percent jump from 2005. Meanwhile, employers’ share of premiums fell in the same time period. </span>

<span style="font-weight: bold">Bankruptcy filings due to medical costs have also jumped, increasing by more than one-third between 2007 and 2009, according to analysis published in The American Journal of Medicine in March.</span>

<span style="font-weight: bold">Rising costs continue to pose a challenge for the state. A survey published by Blue Cross Blue Shield Massachusetts Foundation in April found that per capita health care spending in Massachusetts is projected to nearly double by 2020.</span>

Small businesses also have yet to see the full benefits of the law. Like the national law, the state insurance exchanges were meant to give small businesses a choice of finding cheaper health alternatives, but that hasn’t happened yet. Premiums charged to small businesses since 2006 have risen faster than average, growing by 5.8 percent from 2006 to 2008, compared to a 4.8 percent growth for mid-size companies.

Though the Massachusetts health care law has been panned by Republicans nationwide, local support for it remains steady.

Two out of three adults in the state support the law, while 88 percent of doctors say it improved, or did not affect, the quality of care, per the BCBS survey

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/05/has-mitt-romneys-massachusetts-health-care-law-worked/

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Question for those who live in the USA

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What do people have against Obamacare and other forms of universal healthcare? Sorry, I just don't get it. </div></div>

Funny I think it would have been great to ask this question of the Jamaican Comrades <span style="font-style: italic">(who like their like minded USA Republican Clowns), </span>have convinced a majority of their supporters to vote against affordable universal healthcare, sponsored by the State.

[Peasie]

Re: Question for those who live in the USA

I just received a refund check from my health insurance company as a direct result of the Affordable Care Act, the so-called Obamacare, which requires that insurance company must refund the insured <span style="font-style: italic">if it did not spend at least 80 percent of the premiums it received on health care services.</span>

It says so here.

and I say

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[Tuff Gong]

Re: Question for those who live in the USA

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-style: italic">Please, read this article. The problem with health care as we speak is the affordability. PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD TO PURCHASE IT. OBAMA CARE or ROMNEY CARE DOES NOT MAKE IT ANY MORE AFFORDABLE</span>.</div></div>

Of course it is not.
Politics and a culture of stupidity got in the way of what should have been a straight forward debate of getting and keeping Americans healthy in an efficient and affordable way.
So now the <span style="font-weight: bold">SCOTUS </span>had to step in and save the entire USA from embarrassing itself, looking like a Third World backwater like Texas, Louisiana or Bama.

[jamaica_dreamin]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-style: italic">Please, read this article. The problem with health care as we speak is the affordability. PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD TO PURCHASE IT. OBAMA CARE or ROMNEY CARE DOES NOT MAKE IT ANY MORE AFFORDABLE</span>.</div></div>

Of course it is not.
Politics and a culture of stupidity got in the way of what should have been a straight forward debate of getting and keeping Americans healthy in an efficient and affordable way.
So now the <span style="font-weight: bold">SCOTUS </span>had to step in and save the entire USA from embarrassing itself, looking like a Third World backwater like Texas, Louisiana or Bama. </div></div>

I can not understand who would not want affordable health care??