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Originally posted by lonewolf View PostYou may be able to sell this nonsense to those that are uneducated and stupid, but the body count is real.
Which leads me to believe that you are either part of a radical racist organization, and are a plant, with an obvious agenda, or you live a priviledged life, and don't live in or near any LARGE US CITY.
We that live, work and play in and around areas such as Detroit, Chicago, New York, Baltimore, Washington DC etc...We see the carnage with our own eyes...I've spent the last 33 years as a Baltimore City firefighter and see death and murder on a daily basis. So, don't urinate down my back and tell me it's raining.
diss mekk mii laff
awl diss thyme mii chatt bout nyc ann wukkinn widd yuths.
wee discussinn de gun cantrol debate ann yuh cum widd blakk on blakk murder rate stats. blakk on blakk murder stats ar racist stats used bye oyinbo fe stereotype ann scapegoat blakks peeps as violence prone. plus yuh blakk pon blakk murder rate stats inn a gun cantrol debate iss flawed cah itt implicitlee implieinn dat dem murders were solelee caused by gun. y natt chatt bout oww manee peeps were killed widd knives, hammer,etc? y natt putt oww manee aff dem murders were caused by guns instead aff misusinn murder rate fe push oyinbo racist agenda fe disarmed blakks? iss itt cah blakk widd gun scare oyinbo? y natt chatt oww moas aff dem so cawled black on blakk murder rate ar gang related ann invalved jugs? iss itt cah den yuh wood affi chatt bout oww ann y gang ar formed ann discussed wey de jugs cumminn fram?
plus yu shood kno dat de racist injustice system ar more likelee fe classify actions by blakk dat lead to sumwan death as murder wild similar actions done by oyinbo dat cause de death aff sumwan ar less likelee fe classify as murder. y yuh tink dat iss? fe gawn like de so-called blakk on blakk murder rate ann de oyinbo on oyinbo murder rate can be readilee used as fair cumparrassion iss flawed. see wat appen wen yuh ignore racism den use racist stats fe mekk flawed argument bout blakks cah yuh kno mii aggo chatt bout flawed stats fe justify racism.
cansidar diss joke. lass ear blakks putt so much pressure pon billionaire mike dat imm add fe reduce imm racial profilinn policee aff racist stoppinn and friskinn moaslee yung blakk males. de murde rate declined ann billionaire tekk credit by chattinn oww racial profilinn ann de racist stopped frisk wukk ann dat y de murder rate declined. sumwan like mii wood chat bout de flaw inn imm argument cah oww cum wen deer wass more stopp ann frisk deer wass more murders butt wen blakks force imm fe restrict stop ann frisked deer wass less murders.
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Originally posted by lonewolf View Post
memba wen reagan pushed racist gun cantrol policee dat de nra supported dem fe disarmed blakks. itt wass onlee wen oyinbo realized de dangerous preceedents woo affect dem own rites dat dem change de leadership.
do yuh beeleeve dat iff itt wass wan crazee blakk parsan woo didd wan dat oyinbo didd iff dem wood natt ave been diffarant response ann change to gun laws awlreadee.
nra cyaan runn fram itt racist roots
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Originally posted by blugiant View Postdiss mekk mii laff
awl diss thyme mii chatt bout nyc ann wukkinn widd yuths.
wee discussinn de gun cantrol debate ann yuh cum widd blakk on blakk murder rate stats. blakk on blakk murder stats ar racist stats used bye oyinbo fe stereotype ann scapegoat blakks peeps as violence prone. plus yuh blakk pon blakk murder rate stats inn a gun cantrol debate iss flawed cah itt implicitlee implieinn dat dem murders were solelee caused by gun. y natt chatt bout oww manee peeps were killed widd knives, hammer,etc? y natt putt oww manee aff dem murders were caused by guns instead aff misusinn murder rate fe push oyinbo racist agenda fe disarmed blakks? iss itt cah blakk widd gun scare oyinbo? y natt chatt oww moas aff dem so cawled black on blakk murder rate ar gang related ann invalved jugs? iss itt cah den yuh wood affi chatt bout oww ann y gang ar formed ann discussed wey de jugs cumminn fram?
plus yu shood kno dat de racist injustice system ar more likelee fe classify actions by blakk dat lead to sumwan death as murder wild similar actions done by oyinbo dat cause de death aff sumwan ar less likelee fe classify as murder. y yuh tink dat iss? fe gawn like de so-called blakk on blakk murder rate ann de oyinbo on oyinbo murder rate can be readilee used as fair cumparrassion iss flawed. see wat appen wen yuh ignore racism den use racist stats fe mekk flawed argument bout blakks cah yuh kno mii aggo chatt bout flawed stats fe justify racism.
cansidar diss joke. lass ear blakks putt so much pressure pon billionaire mike dat imm add fe reduce imm racial profilinn policee aff racist stoppinn and friskinn moaslee yung blakk males. de murde rate declined ann billionaire tekk credit by chattinn oww racial profilinn ann de racist stopped frisk wukk ann dat y de murder rate declined. sumwan like mii wood chat bout de flaw inn imm argument cah oww cum wen deer wass more stopp ann frisk deer wass more murders butt wen blakks force imm fe restrict stop ann frisked deer wass less murders.
Murder stats don't pin point gun violence. Murder rate includes all the above mentioned instruments used to commit murder.
So, what's your point? I have posted FACTS, and when the FACTS don't meet your agenda, you spin some strange story of flawed stats.
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Originally posted by lonewolf View Postdiss mekk MII laff
Murder stats don't pin point gun violence. Murder rate includes all the above mentioned instruments used to commit murder.
So, what's your point? I have posted FACTS, and when the FACTS don't meet your agenda, you spin some strange story of flawed stats.
yu doan find itt intarestinn dat a blakk man woo defend de secand admendment ann blakk peeps rite fe own guns iss called radical ann racist
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oyinbo defendinn racism
There’s Nothing Racist About Gun Control ... Anymore
Just when you thought the debate over gun control couldn’t get any more twisted, the old claim has been revived that slavery might not have lasted so long in America if black people had been granted the right to bear arms at the outset of their arrival in the new world. Raised during a CNN interview by Washington, D.C., publicist Larry Ward, one of the principal organizers of the Gun Appreciation Day rallies staged Jan. 19 and a staunch defender of the NRA, the comment seemed to those unfamiliar with such thinking like material culled from a dark stand-up comedy routine.
Far from being funny, Ward’s view is part and parcel of a simplistic and embittered fundamentalism that has dominated political discourse on gun rights and the Second Amendment for decades and embraces the twin beliefs that any new gun control measures would not only be unconstitutional but also racist.
Both beliefs are nonsense, but not without a kernel of distorted truth. And we can thank Ward and other like-minded pro-gun zealots both within and outside of the NRA for helping to renew public interest in uncovering the truth behind the nation’s gun rights history. Understanding that history, especially in the aftermath of the Sandy Hook massacre, is vital both to our efforts to achieve sensible gun control reform and to the more general task of demystifying the Second Amendment’s meaning and scope.
Let’s begin the process with a sad admission: Our gun rights history indeed is stained with racism, commencing with particular force in the Colonial South, where blacks, both slave and free, were prohibited from owning firearms.
In “The Hidden History of the Second Amendment,” a 1998 law review article that is only now gaining notice beyond academic circles, professor Carl Bogus of Roger Williams University School of Law in Rhode Island, reminds us that slavery was not just an economic and political institution but a “gigantic police system.” The primary means of enforcing the system were the “slave patrols,” armed groups of white men whose job was to ensure that blacks were not wandering or gathering where they were not permitted, engaging in suspicious activity or acquiring forbidden weapons. The old South, where slaves often outnumbered whites by large margins, lived in constant fear of slave revolts and over time, in places such as Virginia, South Carolina and Georgia, the functions of the slave patrols were taken over by state militias.
Bogus also makes the claim—disputed, of course, not just by the NRA but by the current Republican majority on the Supreme Court—that the Second Amendment wasn’t designed to protect an individual right to bear arms, but at least in part to prevent the federal government under the newly ratified Constitution from usurping control of state militias and undermining their slave patrol duties.
Although divining the original intent of the Founding Fathers is a risky and often dubious enterprise—and there are even some respected liberal historians who disagree with Bogus on the racist origins of the Second Amendment—the professor offers a compelling account that James Madison, the amendment’s author, had promised to support the Bill of Rights, including what became the Second Amendment, during the course of his 1789 campaign to win election to the House of Representatives. Madison’s motive was mainly political: to tamp down lingering concerns among some of his anti-Federalist slave-owning constituents that the union would end their way of life.
Whether or not Bogus is correct that the Second Amendment was the offspring of a pro-slavery election campaign promise, the controls against black Americans owning guns continued in the post-Civil War South with the adoption of the notorious Black Codes, often enforced by the Ku Klux Klan and other self-appointed vigilante bands. But slowly, as the nation moved into the 20th century and emerged from the Jim Crow era in response to both the mainstream civil rights movement and the rise of revolutionary black leaders like Malcolm X and the Black Panther Party, who began to call for armed self-defense in the African-American community, attitudes toward gun rights shifted, albeit temporarily, in favor of more racially neutral gun control policies.
The NRA, which was originally founded not as an ideological organization but to promote firearm safety, threw its support behind the Gun Control Act of 1968, the federal law that still regulates the interstate shipment of firearms and prohibits sales to convicted felons, fugitives from justice, minors and inmates of mental institutions, among others. Within a decade, however, the NRA reversed itself as a core of hard-line gun advocates gained control of the organization and eventually transformed it into the lobbying juggernaut we know today, dedicated to an absolutist vision of gun rights and the Second Amendment, and the idea that gun control is racist.
As extreme as that vision may be, the NRA and its allies and shills remain very good at what they do. And given the 300 million guns in circulation in the U.S. and the Supreme Court’s concurrence that the Second Amendment protects the individual right to own firearms, the campaign to reduce gun violence faces stiff hurdles, even if the Obama administration holds fast to its proposals to reinstate an assault weapons ban and expand background checks to gun shows, which account for an estimated 40 percent of all firearm sales. Still, those hurdles are not insurmountable, and there is nothing in the Supreme Court’s recent cases that would render reasonable limitations on Second Amendment rights unconstitutional.
At a minimum, even if no meaningful gun control reforms succeed in the short term, we can and should dispatch to the dustbin the notion that our efforts to achieve such reforms are racist. Despite the ugly twists and turns in the history of American gun rights, and the undeniable racism that once made gun ownership a whites-only privilege, no one should confuse the present call for sensible gun control with racism. No segment of the American public appreciates this fact more than African-Americans, who suffer disproportionately from criminal violence and yet in the wake of Sandy Hook, continue to register the highest degree of support for gun control of any major ethnic group.
gun control iss a coded oyinbo wurd fe racism
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=blugiant;684328]yuh poas misleadinn stats ann gawn like itt facts. blakk murder rate ann oyinbo murder rate cumparrassons dat ignore racist bias iss flawed cah blakks ave iigha rate aff beeing charge ann canvicted aff murder unlike oyinbo. oww manee thyme yuh read bout oyinbo killinn blakks ann dem doan gitt charge ann canvicted aff murder ann instead gitt canvicted aff lesser charges. ting wey oyinbo do doan gitt classified ann treated de same way wey blakks do ann dat include murder. imagine blakks widd gun gitt classified as dangerous butt heaveelee armed oyinbo widd manee gun gitt treated as doomsday preppers. murder stats ar misleadinn ann racist so comparinn oyinbo ann blakk murder rate iss flawed
The judicial process that occurs after such a suspicious death does not change the fact that a person has met their death by unatural and questionable causes...Which means your arguement is bogus, and has absolutely nothing to do with the stats.
yu doan find itt intarestinn dat a blakk man woo defend de secand admendment ann blakk peeps rite fe own guns iss called radical ann racist
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Originally posted by blugiant View Postyuh poas misleadinn stats ann gawn like itt facts. blakk murder rate ann oyinbo murder rate cumparrassons dat ignore racist bias iss flawed cah blakks ave iigha rate aff beeing charge ann canvicted aff murder unlike oyinbo. oww manee thyme yuh read bout oyinbo killinn blakks ann dem doan gitt charge ann canvicted aff murder ann instead gitt canvicted aff lesser charges. ting wey oyinbo do doan gitt classified ann treated de same way wey blakks do ann dat include murder. imagine blakks widd gun gitt classified as dangerous butt heaveelee armed oyinbo widd manee gun gitt treated as doomsday preppers. murder stats ar misleadinn ann racist so comparinn oyinbo ann blakk murder rate iss flawed
lf;684984]Again, you twist things to meet your agenda. Let me teach you something. A dead body that has obvious signs of trauma by gun shot, knife or blunt instrument, and does not meet the classification to be labled death by natural causes is a MURDER, or at least deemed a suspicious death.
The judicial process that occurs after such a suspicious death does not change the fact that a person has met their death by unatural and questionable causes...Which means your arguement is bogus, and has absolutely nothing to do with the stats.
Yes, I find that interesting... but I find it even more interesting that you find that interesting, because you label every topic that you post racist, and follow the very same format.[/QUOTE]
yuh kno sum oyinbo profs sed de same ting to mii ann mii ask imm iff wat mii rite iss valid. itt use fe pain imm fe admit mii add a pint. yuh shood ovatand dat itt dem racist oyinbo profs dat train mii fe mekk sense aff nunsense
de definition aff murder vary by locateshan so fe gawn like murder is "a dead body that has obvious signs of trauma by gun shot, knife or blunt instrument, and does not meet the classification to be labled death by natural causes is a MURDER" iss flawed. yuh kno dem label tayon tand yur ground. pint iss dat da killings aff blakk peeps by oyinbo ar more likelee fe bee connsidered justified than the killings aff oyinbo peeps by blakks. oyinbo disscretion in applyinn label raises qwestian bout applicateshan aff label aff murder
awl mii seyinn itt natt cut ann dry like yuh tryinn fe mekk itt ann fe use oyinbo murder rate ann blakk murder rate fe cumpare ann draw canclusion iss flawed cah aff de racial dissparitee between da two groups.
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