Another question for the men re: beauty and brains?

[Tropicana]

tropi yuh ann i kno de realitee y mzungu oomen luv blakk men iss cah aff de upgrade

so woo yuh chattinn bout. itt bettar be wan sellout

What do you mean by upgrade? We clearly are not using the same definition. By upgrade I mean hooking up with a man who is successful. I am not shure what YOU are chatting about. How can hooking up with a successful man who owns gorgeous properties all over be a downgrade (well unless he turns out to be a jerk who posts 3/4 naked photos of her on Facebook).

I never would have expected that kind of behaviour from a rich successful and good looking man. I was SO shocked. I just couldn't believe it.




I would have expected that kind of behaviour from a low life guy who had nothing going for him and couldn't attract a woman to save his life. I can understand if someone like that felt they had to resort to being a peeping talking, snapping photos and posting them on Facebook to get his jollies. (Though I still would not support the behaviour.) A guy like this:

[Tropicana]

Relationships and who we choose to have them with are very complicated matters. The criterion that you are using to judge people and the decisions they make about who they want to be with does not appear to reflect an understanding of this.

True, true. I do need to erase my list completely, come up with some kind of quick way of assessing the direction of a guy's moral compass and then adding to the list for further exploration if they pass the test. One great way would be to share the example of the rich lowlife and see how they react to it. If they see nothing wrong with the behaviour...it's NEXT!

There may be much more going on that what you are privy to in the examples that you raise.

Come on Rolin_Calf anyone who would agree to her husband doing this could not be any prize. Trust me this one is definitely a fluffy bimbo. What more could possibly be going on here that I am missing.

What these guys forget is that few of these women will have their figures or looks in 10 - 15 years. What do they do then? Oh yes, I know, trade her in for a young nubile replacement who will drop baggy and pose for 3/4 naked photos so that they can continue to get their jollies.

[Tropicana]

Anyway, education and intelligence seem to be WAY down on the list of priorities for many men when selecting a partner. Big boobs, blonde hair and especially the willingness to drop baggy early in the relationship and often seem to be the key criteria.

[Diplomat]

Many rich and powerful men tend to shy away from women who have brains and beauty. They find it intimidating. They are more interested in boobs than brains. Makes me wonder how one can share a life with a brainless bimbo. I guess they spend all the time in the sack.

You do a tremendous disservice to women with comments like that. Also, "many rich and powerful men tend to shy away from women with brains and beauty" because "they find it intimidating"? Really? If these men are rich and powerful as you say, it could very well mean that all they need is a beautiful wife to complete their image. Someone with "brains" - whatever that means - isn't necessarily a priority as through marriage they would be equally rich anyway.

[Tropicana]

You do a tremendous disservice to women with comments like that. Also, "many rich and powerful men tend to shy away from women with brains and beauty" because "they find it intimidating"? Really? If these men are rich and powerful as you say, it could very well mean that all they need is a beautiful wife to complete their image. Someone with "brains" - whatever that means - isn't necessarily a priority as through marriage they would be equally rich anyway.

How am I doing women a disservice? I am criticizing the men and their bizarre choices.

Come, come now you KNOW what someone with "brains means. I am shocked that you would see nothing wrong with an educated and successful man selecting a blonde, bimbo model who has barely finished high school and is definitely not the brightest bulb in the box as a partner. Believe you me, I have met many of these chicks and they can barely carry on a conversation if it is about anything other than fashion, shoes, and nail polish. I am shocked that these chicks can consistently attract successful partners. What in the world do these couples talk about (or do they just spend the whole day in the sack)?

Are you really going to tell me you see nothing wrong with this? That would be shocking coming from someone who has been trained as a pastor?



What advice would you give your flock?

Are you also saying that you are okay with the guy posting inappropriate photos of his new bride on Facebook? Please answer so we will know for sure if you have backslidden.

[Tropicana]

Looking for xigaM and Derek to way in on this one. Tuff Gong and my cute and cuddly centipede too.

[blugiant]

What do you mean by upgrade? We clearly are not using the same definition. By upgrade I mean hooking up with a man who is successful. I am not shure what YOU are chatting about. How can hooking up with a successful man who owns gorgeous properties all over be a downgrade (well unless he turns out to be a jerk who posts 3/4 naked photos of her on Facebook).

I never would have expected that kind of behaviour from a rich successful and good looking man. I was SO shocked. I just couldn't believe it.




I would have expected that kind of behaviour from a low life guy who had nothing going for him and couldn't attract a woman to save his life. I can understand if someone like that felt they had to resort to being a peeping talking, snapping photos and posting them on Facebook to get his jollies. (Though I still would not support the behaviour.) A guy like this:

mii will anwsah yu upgrade qwestian inn dat addar tredd yuh tarted

tropi mzungu playtinn married wan rich bisexual oyinbo man ann yuh wood define dat as upgrade

[Tropicana]

Where the heck does it say he is bisexual? A bisexual, freaky or lowlife man would not be an upgrade no matter how much money he has. I think you are making it up. Where does it say he is bisexual?

[franksterr]

Are you serious?

Yes...it should be noted that there is a difference between intelligence and education.

I place a high premium on intelligence, career success, interest in travel BUT I don't want a shallow jet setting playboy. Morality comes at the top of the list. Of course, one can't gauge that immediately. On the surface the guy seemed great. I even found a way to get in touch with him (business related) and we communicated. Never met him as not too long after that it was announced that he was marrying this blonde model and he started posting really skimpy photos of her on his Facebook. Any guy who is going to post practically naked photos of his wife on his Facebook is a dirtbag. Clearly despite how he appeared on the surface, this guy would not have been a good match for me.

These qualities that you are looking for in a man fits the definition of a gold digger "intelligence, career success, interest in travel". I am not one to Judge but many people look down on gold digging woman as much as you look down dirtbag men.
Not to mention you seemed to be stalking this dude "I even found a way to get in touch with him (business related) and we communicated. Never met him" tell me I am wrong on both counts please????

Whats wrong with two consenting adults sharing or displaying asset that they are proud of?
People who are blesssed with certain attributes tend show it off its all part of the dating game.

Alas, I have not found a way to gauge a guy's moral compass immediately unless I trapped him. Maybe I could ask, do you find it a turn-on to watch porno with you partner and see how he reacts. If he thinks this is a great idea it's NEXT!!

Any man who tells you he is not turned on by watching porno is a lying hypocrite.....take my word for it

Don't you think it's sick?

No....Thats why most women dress up and wear make up to appear or emphasize what they consider attractive.
What I find sickening is when they try to be something they are not.

How do they know the woman will be better in bed because she looks like a supermodel? A lot of them are so busy purging to keep that look that they hardly have the energy.

A pretty woman is not only used for sex alone sometimes its just eye candy - a male thing

A beautiful woman can elicit a automatic response in a man that a ugly or intelligent woman can not....oftentimes all that necessary is for her to lie their and look pretty, the man will do de wokking.....everytime he catches sight of that nude body its lets do it again all over again

So they don't have the goods to feel virile on their own. I rest my case about teenie weenies and low testosterone.

There is no need to casting aspersions on the size of the man penis because his wife looks good and has a banging body that he is showing - cant compete can you? so want to change the rules of an age old game.

Its biological (testes release testosterone) most men are voyeuristic and so a beautiful woman will cause within the average man the automatic response that may lead him to act and by acting become more virile.
The size of the penis has very little to do with virility....what a man is born with is not his fault and such a thing is beyond his control.......On the other hand a woman with a loosey goosey is usual due to misuse or overuse or poor health.

Hassle. How is being bright a hassle?

When a man is home he dosen't want to feel like he is at work, being second guessed and question about everything he does or say - in other words.....nagged
When a man is home sometimes he just want to chill drink a beer smoke a joint and be loud rowdy and messy with a couple of friends - its a male thing women just dont understand especially those socalled intelligent ones.

Not from the brainless bimbos I see these guys hook up with.

Education does not equate intelligence all the time.

So they don't think they have the goods to keep up with a bright woman who will challenge them on their BS.

Thats the point we not at work why the competition....accept me for who I am as I accept you for who you are.
I have my BS its a man thing and you have your BS every month its a woman thing I have learned to live with it

[Tropicana]

Yes...it should be noted that there is a difference between intelligence and education.

Yes we know that but a fluffy bimbo who dropped out of high school to make a living posing for skimpy clothing and who can only talk about hair and nail polish is far from intelligence.

I notice so far the men are putting down educated women and trying to say that the baggy dropping blondes have more redeeming qualities than the ability to remove their clothing. I am not buying it. Believe you me, I have had to interact with MANY of these chicks, , not by choice and it was far from a positive experience.

These qualities that you are looking for in a man fits the definition of a gold digger "intelligence, career success, interest in travel". I am not one to Judge but many people look down on gold digging woman as much as you look down dirtbag men.

Golddigging?? If a woman has intelligence, career success and an interest in travel, why should she not expect to be with a man who shares those qualities. Would you suggest she go to the nearest biker hang-out and pick up some guy who has dropped out of high school? Would that be a more suitable companion for her?

Not to mention you seemed to be stalking this dude "I even found a way to get in touch with him (business related) and we communicated. Never met him" tell me I am wrong on both counts please????

I had a legitimate business reason to get in touch with him. He seemed to be in the ballpark. Surely you don't think a guy like that is going to drive up and ring my doorbell. One has to be proactive.

Whats wrong with two consenting adults sharing or displaying asset that they are proud of?
People who are blesssed with certain attributes tend show it off its all part of the dating game.

You know I may be on to something re: running this scenario by a guy on a first day and seeing if he responds like you did....even before accepting a first day. You know just drop it into casual conversation. If he thinks it's okay (like you do), it's an automatic NEXT!

Any man who tells you he is not turned on by watching porno is a lying hypocrite.....take my word for it

There is a difference between being turned on an being a purveyor of pornography. Guys who check out porn are the scum of the earth...and I am unanimous about that.

No....Thats why most women dress up and wear make up to appear or emphasize what they consider attractive.
What I find sickening is when they try to be something they are not.

There is nothing wrong with dressing up and wearing make-up. It is the dress off I am objecting to.

A pretty woman is not only used for sex alone sometimes its just eye candy - a male thing

And you think this is okay. NEXT!

Why marry her?

A beautiful woman can elicit a automatic response in a man that a ugly or intelligent woman can not....oftentimes all that necessary is for her to lie their and look pretty, the man will do de wokking.....everytime he catches sight of that nude body its lets do it again all over again

I rest my case about the teenie weenies and low testosterone levels. Also I deliberately did not include ugly women in this discussion. It is intelligent AND attractive women vs fluffy uneducated bimbos who take off all or most of their clothes for a living.

There is no need to casting aspersions on the size of the man penis because his wife looks good and has a banging body that he is showing - cant compete can you? so want to change the rules of an age old game.

HAH!!

Its biological (testes release testosterone) most men are voyeuristic and so a beautiful woman will cause within the average man the automatic response that may lead him to act and by acting become more virile.

The size of the penis has very little to do with virility....what a man is born with is not his fault and such a thing is beyond his control.......On the other hand a woman with a loosey goosey is usual due to misuse or overuse or poor health.

Loosey goosey!

When a man is home he dosen't want to feel like he is at work, being second guessed and question about everything he does or say - in other words.....nagged

Again putting down educated women. I knew it. So far all the men who have responded have stereotyped educated women.

When a man is home sometimes he just want to chill drink a beer smoke a joint and be loud rowdy and messy with a couple of friends - its a male thing women just dont understand especially those socalled intelligent ones.

Seeit deh! Seeit deh!

Education does not equate intelligence all the time.

Again tell us something we don't know.

Thats the point we not at work why the competition....accept me for who I am as I accept you for who you are.
I have my BS its a man thing and you have your BS every month its a woman thing I have learned to live with it

So you ARE intimidated by an intelligent woman by your own admission. You view it as competition. I figured as much. Best to hide one's education from men when you first meet them. Seems like many don't have the balls do deal with that even if they are also educated. Yes balls ... cajones!! Teenie weenies and no cajones!!

[RichD]

....and you think this is normal behaviour.

yes

[Tropicana]

Next!!

[franksterr]

Yes we know that but a fluffy bimbo who dropped out of high school to make a living posing for skimpy clothing and who can only talk about hair and nail polish is far from intelligence.

I notice so far the men are putting down educated women and trying to say that the baggy dropping blondes have more redeeming qualities than the ability to remove their clothing. I am not buying it. Believe you me, I have had to interact with MANY of these chicks, , not by choice and it was far from a positive experience.

Bagging drop is an art.......and many a man pay good money for that - strippers.
When a man seeks one of these women he is not looking for interesting in conversation. Sorry to disappoint you but for most of recent human history men were never very concern with women's mind.

Golddigging?? If a woman has intelligence, career success and an interest in travel, why should she not expect to be with a man who shares those qualities. Would you suggest she go to the nearest biker hang-out and pick up some guy who has dropped out of high school? Would that be a more suitable companion for her?

Great just like how you are a proud supporter of golddigging, why be upset when the man dem want a sexy attractive woman over an intelligent one. You do not want a poor unemployed man, they do not want an intelligent prude

Well if she wants to be with a man with these qualities then she must find out what these men are looking for in a woman. By your own admission beauty seems to be a premium requirement or at least it beats out intelligence.

So all bikers are poor and doesn't not have a successful career?

I had a legitimate business reason to get in touch with him. He seemed to be in the ballpark. Surely you don't think a guy like that is going to drive up and ring my doorbell. One has to be proactive.

If you sexy, look good and willing to show it off maybe he will.

You know I may be on to something re: running this scenario by a guy on a first day and seeing if he responds like you did....even before accepting a first day. You know just drop it into casual conversation. If he thinks it's okay (like you do), it's an automatic NEXT!

Well if he knows you to be a golddigging prude he will just lie.....seeing that you only want him for his money

There is a difference between being turned on an being a purveyor of pornography. Guys who check out porn are the scum of the earth...and I am unanimous about that.

Very few men are purveyors of porn but every man is a consumer of porn

There is nothing wrong with dressing up and wearing make-up. It is the dress off I am objecting to.

Yes there is.....it is lying
deceptive - misleading. cover up - hiding the true state of affairs and made up as in unreal not true

And you think this is okay. NEXT!

Why marry her?

Sex with a beautiful woman is almost always good.
While an intelligent woman is going to argue the pyschological effects of fellatio and she always being on the bottom.....who needs that.

I rest my case about the teenie weenies and low testosterone levels. Also I deliberately did not include ugly women in this discussion. It is intelligent AND attractive women vs fluffy uneducated bimbos who take off all or most of their clothes for a living.

There you go trying to change the question. The question was beauty and brains - Do they put no value on brains. I saw nowhere in your opening question anything about "intelligent AND attractive women vs fluffy uneducated bimbos"

HAH!!

Loosey goosey!

As the youngman said in the video all cuchi come seal up (hymen) in a one size fits all type of fashion, as it can stretch to fit a small finger to as large a a baby head, through misuse or overuse it may loose its elasticity resulting in a loosey goosey with no glamity....hence to this woman the world suddenly becomes filled with small penises.

Again putting down educated women. I knew it. So far all the men who have responded have stereotyped educated women.

You have stereotype all men who want sexy beautiful women

Seeit deh! Seeit deh!

See what you think you or any human being is perfect.....we all got our BS. It just that some socalled intelligent women think that their shyt can eat

Again tell us something we don't know.

You obviously do not know....you maybe educated but you not intelligent.
You have the knowledge - education, but you lack the ability to apply it to achieve your desired goals.

So you ARE intimidated by an intelligent woman by your own admission.

No....I deal with them everyday at work love some hate others - those I hate tend to be educated but stupid...no creativity originality or ingenuity, always missing the big picture being bog down by dotting I and crossing Ts - in other words parrots, saying a whole lot a things irrelevant togetting the job done - nags

You view it as competition.

Yeah those who are always trying to prove something....what I really dont care.

I figured as much. Best to hide one's education from men when you first meet them. Seems like many don't have the balls do deal with that even if they are also educated. Yes balls ... cajones!! Teenie weenies and no cajones!!

Be yourself and stop trying to control other adults who are not harming anyone

So you want to show off your education but you a problem with a woman showing her beauty.

There goes education for you....you seem to think that calling men " don't have balls ... cajones!! Teenie weenies and no cajones!!" will get you your man..
I bet you that socalled dumb blonde found some way to honestly compliment the man she now is married to

[Tropicana]

To quote blugiant....dis mek me laff.

You are calling ME unintelligent when you can't even read. This is my opening post.

This question is just for the men.

Okay without divulging who this is, this guy is educated (MBA), very successful and he owns a number of high end European properties. He is in his late 40s, early 50s. Not sure if he has been married before. It's the type of guy you look at and say....hmm possible.

Just discovered, he recently married an uneducated blonde model...bimbo type...half his age who poses in skimpy clothing and bathing suits. In fact, he is posting photos of her in very skimpy clothing on his Facebook page like she is some trophy to be displayed or something.

So my question is what is up with some men? Do they put no value on brains? Always when these guys come into money they have to hook up with some model who wears skimpy clothing? Do these guys have an inferiority complex or something and need a trophy beside them to prove they have arrived? They absolutely seem to fear women with brains...I am talking about women with beauty AND brains. Do they lack confidence and are they intimidated.

Or do they just have teenie weenies and low testosterone and fear they can't get it up without the stimulation of some scantily clad bimbo. Brains seem to be a low priority for men anyway. Why is that?

Seriously some men need DEEP therapy and

I deliberately took the ugly card off the table at the start as I know some a onoo SO shallow that you would play it.

At NO time did I say all men only want sexy looking partners...I did say that the rich and successful guys seem to put a premium on this above all else. They also seem to fear women who are their equals.

I am not stupid enough to say this to anyone's face....

There goes education for you....you seem to think that calling men " don't have balls ... cajones!! Teenie weenies and no cajones!!" will get you your man.

.... and at least I can read.

[Tropicana]

BTW, I am educated and highly intelligent...got looks too... A woman who wants a man with whom she is likely to be compatible is not a gold digger...she is smart. Sure there may be some bikers who are educated and highly intelligent but I would not suggest that a woman stop by the local Hell's Angel's clubhouse hoping to find a suitable partner.

If you think some guy is going to out of the blue ring a woman's doorbell, you are delusional. That kind of thing happens only in the movies. There is nothing wrong with making sure you go where men who have the attributes you are seeking hang out. That is not stalking. It is being smart and strategic.