Crackstarter

[mountaingal]

Black ppl just know what it feel like fi be wronged all de while and accused jus fi accusation sake.

look dahjah, nuh mek me an u fall out eenya today.

Ford is not a wronged man. He is not an oppressed man. He's not a "little" man, neither in the literal nor figurative sense of that word, and is not capable of speaking on their behalf.

he is a grown-a s s man, spoiled and has never had to suffer, so doesn't know the limits of behaviour and sense. he's a brat, and totally unsuited to be mayor.

jamaican people used to be good judges of character.

[RichD]

u may get 1.5 million ppl to the polls next october
How much jamaican updeh? If him cyan swing de indian vote him eendeh

is not brampton him runnin in

[mountaingal]

From the conservative National Post

Andrew Coyne: Rob Ford doesn’t need to hear ‘get help.’ He needs to hear ‘get out’

Something snapped at Toronto City Council Monday afternoon, and it wasn’t just Rob Ford’s cerebral cortex.

Watching the mayor and his brother strutting about the council chamber — ignoring the Speaker, taunting other councillors, shouting down city officials, screaming insults at spectators, the whole carried out with an air of anarchic glee — was to sense the last tether connecting our politics to some sort of civilized norms breaking under the strain. We are adrift now, floating wildly, with no idea of where we will end up.

At one point the mayor engaged in an extended pantomime of a drunk driver, directed at a councillor who had been cautioned by police. At another, racing about the chamber — literally sprinting — he ploughed into another councillor, knocking her to the floor, apparently in his haste to join the apprehended brawl then under way between his brother and members of the public gallery.

To add to the general note of menace, the mayor was seen directing his personal driver/security guard, who for some reason was allowed onto the chamber floor, to videotape certain of the spectators who had displeased him. Given the services his last driver, the alleged extortionist Sandro Lisi, is accused of performing, it was an altogether chilling moment.

If it is unclear where we are headed, it is clear as day how we got here. With each passing day, the Fords have been dragging the standards we expect of public officials deeper and deeper into the muck, each past act of public or private depravity somehow normalized by the next, worse offence. It is as if, knowing the evidence cannot exonerate the mayor, they and their apologists have decided to annihilate our very ability to judge the evidence.

Over the past couple of weeks, since it was at last confirmed that, contrary to months of stonewalling and evasions if not outright denials, the mayor was indeed caught on that infamous cellphone video — and his still more belated admission that he has smoked crack — the public’s collective moral judgment has been assailed by every sly wheedle, every manipulative tactic, every deliberate lie the two could come up with.

We have seen, by turns, the remorseless apology (“All I can do is apologize and move on”), the bargaining for time (“I have nothing left to hide”), the pseudo-legal clam-up (“I can’t say anything, it’s before the courts”), the non-denial denial (“I do not smoke crack; I am not an addict”), the Clintonian verb-parsing (“you didn’t ask me the right question”), the claim of diminished responsibility (“in one of my drunken stupors”), the appeal to impossible standards (“I’m not a perfect person”), the appeal to no standards (“everybody does it”), the invocation of class envy (“all these rich and elitist people … they’re the biggest crooks around”), the plea for sympathy (“this is the second-worst day of my life, after the day my father died”), the declaration of pure, all-devouring solipsism (“I love this job”). And that’s just a partial list.

The Fords have picked fights, dodged blame, sprayed accusations, and issued threats (“If you wanna get nasty we can get nasty,” the mayor told an interviewer, “I can start digging up dirt on every single one of those politicians…”). The Fords have even demanded that every member of council undergo a drug test, as if that, and not the mayor’s documented, multiple misdeeds were the issue. Throughout, they have tugged on all those sentiments that often cloud the public’s ability to form inferences in such cases — judge not, who am I to judge, don’t rush to judge, anything but the very thing we are called to do as citizens with regard to those we elect: judge.

Even in the midst of Monday’s mayhem, his apologists were holding him to the standard of a Friday night beer league goon: “He was provoked.” More culpable still has been the unwillingness of political leaders, notably his federal Conservative allies, to denounce Ford in the terms he deserves. The provincial Tory leader, Tim Hudak, deserves credit for pledging his support for provincial intervention, should that prove necessary. But the Liberal premier has said she will not without an invitation from the council, and the council seems disinclined to issue such an invitation.

The rest of us are, in a sense, handcuffed. We simply don’t know how to respond to this level of misconduct, this sort of contempt for social norms. At some level, our whole system depends upon people, however badly they may behave, staying within some sort of limits. But the Fords have demonstrated they are under no such constraint.

All of which should make abundantly clear that it is time to put aside the therapeutic language, the Oprah-like pleas to the mayor to “get help” or “seek treatment.” We are long past that point. The mayor’s actions Monday were quite deliberate. They reflected the influence, not of intoxicants, but his own limitless ego and unformed character. As such it is not Ford who has the problem; it’s the city. The message he needs to hear, from every corner, is not get help, but get out.

[Emperah]

look dahjah, nuh mek me an u fall out eenya today.

Ford is not a wronged man. He is not an oppressed man. He's not a "little" man, neither in the literal nor figurative sense of that word, and is not capable of speaking on their behalf.

he is a grown-a s s man, spoiled and has never had to suffer, so doesn't know the limits of behaviour and sense. he's a brat, and totally unsuited to be mayor.

jamaican people used to be good judges of character.

All mi kno if smaddy did string out pan all de ting dem de media seh him string out pan, dem wouldn't able fi show up to work consistently nar duh dem job.
Dis has been a witch hunt from day 1. And I'm not a Ford fan, but I do like the new Explorer

[RichD]

All mi kno if smaddy did string out pan all de ting dem de media seh him string out pan, dem wouldn't able fi show up to work consistently nar duh dem job.
Dis has been a witch hunt from day 1. And I'm not a Ford fan, but I do like the new Explorer

so it sound like you not up to date on the story..is not the media saying ..is him saying it.

so when dem check the public record Ford missed 19% of council sittings he was usually arriving for work at 11 and leaving at 3..is that more consistent with what you woudl expect?

[mountaingal]

All mi kno if smaddy did string out pan all de ting dem de media seh him string out pan, dem wouldn't able fi show up to work consistently nar duh dem job.
Dis has been a witch hunt from day 1. And I'm not a Ford fan, but I do like the new Explorer

dahjah pls do not confuse the messenger with the message. the media reported on what they saw, what other people have said, and what the Mayor himself has admitted to. "drunken stupor" is not a term the media invented - that fat eff said that himself to explain his crack use.

the so-called witch hunt happened because Robbie kept lying, and the media kept hearing evidence that he was lying and would not back off. there would have been no witch hunt if Robbie spoke the truth from the start, and did the right thing by stepping down to deal with his problems, because it is clear to everybody except his dysfunctional family that he has problems.

cho, i wish i lived in another city.

[RichD]

INFOWARS:

Why They Really Hate Toronto Mayor Rob Ford

Daniel McAdams
Lew Rockwell Blog
November 18, 2013
The media is full of revelation after revelation of the latest “evil-doing” of embattled Toronto mayor Rob Ford. But there are no doubt dozens of mayors and other local officials in the US and Canada who are awash in corruption and bad personal habits. Why no wall-to-wall coverage of their foibles? Why do the media and the elites really hate Rob Ford so much?
Image: Wikimedia Commons.

One clue is buried in yet another article otherwise filled with salacious details of his latest brouhaha:

Part of that building has been a heavy emphasis on being accessible to constituents: Mayor Ford even gives out his cell phone number to voters, to call him any time about problems with city services or taxes.
He eschews a chauffeur and other city perks, all in the name of keeping spending down for the average taxpayer. He’s even been photographed reading work documents while driving on an expressway.
“I don’t believe in wasting taxpayer’s money,” he later said about the controversial photo.
…
Upon winning his first election, Rob Ford immediately garnered a reputation for keeping taxes and city expenses down. In 2001, he advocated cutting limousines as a city perk and slashing each councilor’s $200,000 budget, used for travel and club memberships. “If we wiped out the perks for council members, we’d save $100 million easy,” he said, according to the Toronto Globe and Mail.
…
In 2006, then-Councilor Ford offended the gay community when he questioned $1.5 million for an anti-AIDS program: “It is very preventable,” Ford said about the disease, according to City News Toronto. “If you are not doing needles and you are not gay, you wouldn’t get AIDS probably, that’s bottom line.”

[Gen]

I was going to ask how large is the ja pop there

he got 353,000 votes last time....the Jamaican community is certainly large enough to swing that

[mountaingal]

INFOWARS:

Why They Really Hate Toronto Mayor Rob Ford

Daniel McAdams
Lew Rockwell Blog
November 18, 2013
The media is full of revelation after revelation of the latest “evil-doing” of embattled Toronto mayor Rob Ford. But there are no doubt dozens of mayors and other local officials in the US and Canada who are awash in corruption and bad personal habits. Why no wall-to-wall coverage of their foibles? Why do the media and the elites really hate Rob Ford so much?
Image: Wikimedia Commons.

One clue is buried in yet another article otherwise filled with salacious details of his latest brouhaha:

Part of that building has been a heavy emphasis on being accessible to constituents: Mayor Ford even gives out his cell phone number to voters, to call him any time about problems with city services or taxes.
He eschews a chauffeur and other city perks, all in the name of keeping spending down for the average taxpayer. He’s even been photographed reading work documents while driving on an expressway.
“I don’t believe in wasting taxpayer’s money,” he later said about the controversial photo.
…
Upon winning his first election, Rob Ford immediately garnered a reputation for keeping taxes and city expenses down. In 2001, he advocated cutting limousines as a city perk and slashing each councilor’s $200,000 budget, used for travel and club memberships. “If we wiped out the perks for council members, we’d save $100 million easy,” he said, according to the Toronto Globe and Mail.
…
In 2006, then-Councilor Ford offended the gay community when he questioned $1.5 million for an anti-AIDS program: “It is very preventable,” Ford said about the disease, according to City News Toronto. “If you are not doing needles and you are not gay, you wouldn’t get AIDS probably, that’s bottom line.”

so FOS

[Emperah]

cho, i wish i lived in another city.

yuh si, dis is wah mi nuh ovastand, is how unno mek one man get unno so heated.

fi wi mayor is charged wid a crime and in court but him nuh have no hold pan what I do roun here.

[Emperah]

so it sound like you not up to date on the story..is not the media saying ..is him saying it.

so when dem check the public record Ford missed 19% of council sittings he was usually arriving for work at 11 and leaving at 3..is that more consistent with what you woudl expect?

I N I deh pan de outside a look een suh mi nuh have all dem details.

Smaddy wid those stats would eedah get set to betty ford ar get fiyad from work fi chroo. But politicians are above de law unno fi kno dis ahreddy

A time unno suck it up updeh now

[My Looh]

I was going to ask how large is the ja pop there

I think in the Greater Toronto Area there are approx. 180,000 Jamaican expats.

[Gen]

are you in fayvah of a lawless society ??

I N I deh pan de outside a look een suh mi nuh have all dem details.

Smaddy wid those stats would eedah get set to betty ford ar get fiyad from work fi chroo. But politicians are above de law unno fi kno dis ahreddy

A time unno suck it up updeh now

[Pepper]

cho, i wish i lived in another city.

Be careful what you wish for. South Florida politics is full of corruption and scandal. A shoot from the hip mayor is tame compared to the ongoing mess in this area.

We have the usual politicians that accept bribes and political favors. A few per year.
We have politicians that are serving time for attempted murder.
We have politicians that have gone to obeah man and bring the obeah to city hall fi try and work magic on their opposition. (documented and admitted)
One politician contacted a hit man to have her husband eliminated, another one tried to run someone over with a car.

Those are the few that I can think of off the top of my head. Although it happens here so regularly that we don't get national and international attention. So unno have that going for you.

[Emperah]

are you in fayvah of a lawless society ??

is dat we have now.
Is who have de longest bag outdeh now da ppl a worry bout.