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yuh eva read bout da merikkan revolution general george washington wear imm ann sum aff imm lefftenants stood beehind da front line ann threaten fe kill anywan woo doan fite. sum wwod cawl dat actual action...battle. mii wood sey awl aff dem general a fallaw ann read da same playbook. like yuh wance sed da emparah was a politrixxstah so imm add fe play politrixx. same ting mixxed race man doinn -
Originally posted by blugiant View Post
i'm not aware of obama serving any military service or taking part in any battles or wars of a military nature...if you do enlighten meComment
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Okay I am going to disagree on this for 3 reasons:
- 1. Having the first African American President is a major milestone...he needs to be there.
- 2. President Obama inherited one heck of a mess with the economy that took a ton of his attention and things have still not improved.
- 3. The major corporation really control a lot of things so it is hard for one man to work miracles.
I am still hoping that he will make some major things happen in his last 2 years when he doesn't have to worry about another election but the Democrats need to control both houses for this to happen.Last edited by Tropicana; 08-24-2013, 12:29 PM.Comment
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Originally posted by Tropicana View Post
Tropi, I finally can agree with you~ Besides that, he's had to deal with a Congress that can't see beyond the color of his skin. Since he won the last election overwhelmingly, I'm hoping that in the mid-term elections, the ratio of Dems to GOP will change in the House, where most of the opposition is installed.
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We used to have great conversation and we do agree once in a while. Not sure what our quarrel was about. I can't remember but I guess it's not important anymore.Comment
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tropi yuh kno mii disagreed ann sed da mixxed race man shood be welcome give to chatt at blakks even dough imm recard pon advancinn blakk interests is weak to nan xxxistent. da qwestian iss major milestone to woo? da talkinn pint aff da march iss bout pushinn da mixxed race man color blind agendaOriginally posted by Tropicana View Post
natt debatinn dat imm inheritted an eecyaanyamikk mess butt da argument iss da blakk suffarrinn da brunt aff itt ann no programs ar beinn putt forth fe help blakks
easee fe blame corporations butt a dem samewan putt imm inn. da qwestian dat being raised is dat more need fe dunn fe blakks ann latt aff peeps qwestianinn imm agenda versus king agenda ann dat dem natt camparable
imm add boat house before ann didd natt aneeting aff substance widd itt so y wood da demonkrats cantrol aff boat oouses lead to aneeting diffarant. wan definition aff insanitee iss doinn da same ting over again ann xxpectinn diffarant resultsComment
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doan ovatand yuh argument imm agenda is a colorblind agenda dat doan benefit blakks butt oonnoo argument is dat peeps cyaan see beyond da color aff imm skinOriginally posted by queenb View Post Tropi, I finally can agree with you~ Besides that, he's had to deal with a Congress that can't see beyond the color of his skin. Since he won the last election overwhelmingly, I'm hoping that in the mid-term elections, the ratio of Dems to GOP will change in the House, where most of the opposition is installed.Comment
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Originally posted by blugiant View Post
I believe that his beliefs stem from being raised mostly by whites, who accepted him, not necessarily all people of color. Obama mentioned how his g'mother spoke of fear of black men, forgetting that this is what he himself would become. I think that many white people are becoming more accepting of people of color, but a very vocal minority has them cowed into keeping it to themselves. (except when they get in that voting booth)
BTW, those people around my mom saw either my sister or I every stinking day; they knew she wasn't white.Comment
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If he had made radical changes, he would not have been re-elected. It is largely because he pushed Obamacare through that his party lost control over the lower house.Originally posted by blugiant View Post
Sometimes, one ave fe play fool fe ketch de wise.Comment
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nobaddii asked imm to mekk radical changes. obamacare cause imm parteee fe lose cantrol aff da lower house cah more wanted universal coverages ann da mixxed race man neva pushed fe dat. wat obamacare iss ann was iss a versian aff rumneycare dat profit da healtcare industree. imagine rund 70 percent aff merrikkka wanted universal healthcare ann mixxed race man tried fe sell dem obamacare. imm loss da lower house cah imm pushed obamacare fe quicklee used dat money fe stabalized da economy at da xxpense aff jabs ann universal healthcareOriginally posted by Tropicana View Post
tropi ar yuh seyinn iff mixxed race man tackled blakk unemployment ann da increasinn rate aff blakk foreclosure ann addar blakk cancern dat imm wood be makinn radical changes. dat wood imply dat blakk peeps cannot demanded sintinn fe dem overwhelminn support aff da mixxed race man. a joke dat ann too much blakk buy inna dat nunsense. mixxed race man aftah imm furst election sed imm mlk was alive ann saw imm got elected mlk wood be protestinn ann imm was riteComment
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Quite the opposite....Americans seem to perceive universal health care as socialism. They wanted nothing to do with it and hence voted the Democrats out at the first opportunity. If Obama had more aggressively made changes, trust me, he would not have been re-elected.obamacare cause imm parteee fe lose cantrol aff da lower house cah more wanted universal coverages ann da mixxed race man neva pushed fe dat.
I don't think it's radical but you bet your sweet bippy it would be perceived as pushing a Black agenda. Without control of the lower house, he has to leave this for his last 2 years. I truly hope that this is what is going on.tropi ar yuh seyinn iff mixxed race man tackled blakk unemployment ann da increasinn rate aff blakk foreclosure ann addar blakk cancern dat imm wood be makinn radical changes
Also, is there any way he can use an executive order to make Stand Your Ground unconstitutional? When can he use executive orders? We don't have that in Canada.
Also I wish you would stop calling him mixed race men. There are many Black people including you who have ancestry other than Black but that does not make us any less Black. If you keep calling him mixed race man, that is how I am going to refer to you from now on. I will even find you your own special icon.
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http://www.gifs.net/Animation11/Creatures_and_Cartoons/Smiles/Changing_colors.gifLast edited by Tropicana; 08-25-2013, 01:08 PM.Comment
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Here is all of the coverage of the march and leading up to it.
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tropi goo look upp awl da polls ann yuh will be surprised. itt da well finance apponents aff universal care dat push dat nunsense bout socialism.Originally posted by Tropicana View Post
yuh cyaan sey dat da reason y dem voted da demonkkkrats out iss dat even widd majaritee inn boat houses dem failed to deliver because sum demonkkkrats neva wanted universal healthcare. imagine da majaritee demonkkkrats blamed da minoritee republikkkan partee.
mixxed race man push color blind agenda ann itt led to increase blakk unemployment ann increased blakk povertee ann dat y sum critics were arguinn fe natt welcuminn da mixxed race man cah imm policee differed fram da goals aff da arginnal march pon washington. yuh see dat eediat march neva chatt bout concrete plans to improve da candition fe blakks awl itt was bout was speeches defendinn da demonkkkratic line ann askinn more blakks to register ann vote.
tropi discussion pon xxecutive order iss annada tredd. tand yur ground laws is rooted inn da fugitive slave laws ann slave patrols. do yuh membah da days aff slaveree wen slaves add fe walk widd paypahs. mii wander iff da wey free paypah bunn cum framComment
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The Black Mis-Leaders' Love-Fest with Power on the Mall
The commemoration of the March on Washington has been ruined. President Obama, the global assassin, protector of Wall Street, and reigning Great Mass Incarcerator, will star in the production on the National Mall. “Dr. Martin Luther King serves as a mere prop in the ceremony.” In their embrace of Power, the organizers have desecrated the Black American legacy of struggle.
The Black Mis-Leaders' Love-Fest with Power on the Mall
by BAR executive editor Glen Ford
“Proximity to Power has always been their Dream.”
For those who seek an independent Black politics that is faithful to the historical Black consensus for peace and social justice, the inclusion of President Barack Obama in the 50th anniversary of the 1963 March on Washington is a desecration. The ancestral sanctum is to be utterly defiled by the presence of the very personification of imperial savagery and a ballooning domestic police state.
Of course, the organizers of this monumental self-debasement – this obscene groveling at the feet of Power – see Obama’s participation as the ultimate testimony to Black progress. Proximity to Power has always been their Dream. Dr. Martin Luther King serves as a mere prop in the ceremony, which seeks to draw a straight line from the 1863 Emancipation Proclamation, through the 1963 mass march, to the First Black President’s embrace of the 2013 commemoration – a kind of holy trinity.
For the Black Misleadership Class, the great social movement in which Dr. King played such a pivotal role was brought forth, not to confront Power, but to integrate it. President Obama is the perfect blending – the literal embodiment of Black Power, in the warped worldview of the 2013 organizers. Dr. King has no place in this abomination, except to mark the tolling of the bell on his dream to overcome the three evils inherent in imperial capitalism: racism, militarism and materialism.
It is a funereal occasion.
“For those that spent much of the next 50 years jockeying for greater opportunities to join structures of power, there is no shame in hosting the nominal head of Empire at a great public ceremony.”
Not that the actors were so different in 1963. But, back then, the grasping Black classes had not yet been launched on the trajectory that would give them a stake in the imperial order. Their status was still aspirational. Years of tumult would unfold – and Dr. King’s assassination – before the system would deign to offer serious silver to the Judases in his entourage and the larger movement. For those that spent much of the next 50 years jockeying for greater opportunities to join structures of power – the “burning house” that Dr. King feared he was leading his people into – there is no shame in hosting the nominal head of Empire at a great public ceremony. Rather, such an event is the pinnacle of success – especially for folks that imagine they have a special, complexional relationship with His Highness.
It has been so long since the dissolution of the Black Freedom Movement, the pretenders to Black leadership have forgotten how to speak the language of struggle. Non-violent “direct action,” Dr. King’s preferred tactic to “create such a crisis and foster such a tension that a community which has constantly refused to negotiate is forced to confront the issue,” has degenerated to mean simply marching down a street on a sunny day.
The 1963 march was not an example of direct action – quite the opposite. The purpose was to gather as many people as possible for an orderly and “dignified” demonstration of the movement’s mass following and broad support – and then get them out of town by sundown, as promised to the powers-that-be. The last thing the organizers wanted was that a quarter million marchers create a “crisis” in the heart of Washington – a scenario that Dr. King hoped to organize in the summer of 1968, but was interrupted by an assassin.
“The pretenders to Black leadership have forgotten how to speak the language of struggle.”
The 1963 march was so accommodating to the Kennedy’s demand for orderliness, Malcolm X dubbed it the “Farce on Washington.”
“It ceased to be a black march; it ceased to be militant; it ceased to be angry; it ceased to be impatient,” said Malcolm. “In fact, it ceased to be a march. It became a picnic, an outing with a festive, circus-like atmosphere....”
It was also the biggest show of massed humanity in the history of the Nation’s Capitol – which certainly made the intended impression. But, accommodation with Power is not what created the movement that brought the throngs to Washington for the one-day “outing,” nor did strolling in the park carry that movement forward in the ensuing years of confrontation with power.
The 1963 March on Washington was sanitized by the organizers, themselves, whose goal was to impress the nation – including other Black people – with the size and the breadth of the forces the leaders could call on at that point in time. It did not seek confrontation on that day, although its immensity served as implicit warning that masses of people were deeply committed to social transformation, and might not always be so orderly.
“Accommodation with Power is not what created the movement that brought the throngs to Washington.”
In that sense, the event on the Mall was quite unrepresentative of the movement. It was, as Malcolm described from the sidelines, “a festive, circus-like atmosphere” – but it also occurred smack in the middle of years of mortal combat with the “system.” When the march is taken out of the context of what happened before and after, all that remains is the “picnic” and the self-censored, deliberately non-confrontational speeches – most notably Dr. King’s vague “dreaming.” Which perfectly suits the needs of today’s Black Misleadership Class, who have no intention of confronting Power – ever! On the contrary, they cling to the garments of Power, in the person of the First Black President, and wrap themselves in the flag of Empire.
Dr. King rejected U.S. empire, and broke with President Lyndon Johnson over the "inter-related" issues of foreign war and and domestic poverty. There is not a shadow of a doubt that King would denounce Obama in the strongest terms, were he alive, today. Yet, those who pose as his political and moral descendants hug the presidential scorpion to their bosoms.
Malcolm’s critique of the 1963 March does not seem so dated if one substitutes the words “Obama” or “Democrats” for “white liberals”:
“The white liberals [Democrats/Obama] control the Negro and the Negro vote by controlling the Negro civil rights leaders. As long as they [Democrats/Obama] control the Negro civil rights leaders, they can also control and contain the Negro's struggle, and they can control the Negro's so-called revolt.”
This August 28th will be a day of control and containment – amid a love-fest with Power.
BAR executive editor Glen Ford can be contacted at [email protected].
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that's what some say the march on washington was about...being accepted by "white" people..."people of color" no doubt see obama as the culmination of this acceptance; MLK evolved into a bigger message than just being accepted...but his evolution is suppressed to the point that prez obama could now represent some kind of link to MLK...it is a logical link for the intellectually lazy who only see color & racism---& not ideological differences between humans;Originally posted by queenb View Post
it's all a charade to keep the population deaf, dumb & blindComment
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