"Black People, Babies, And Breakups"

[rufian]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mrs. MarieK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Frankly, this entire article is bull crap. </div></div>
how so?

[MarieK]

Re: "Black People, Babies, And Breakups"

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mrs. MarieK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Frankly, this entire article is bull crap. </div></div>
how so? </div></div>

sigh

[Diplomat]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mrs. MarieK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Agree, you never hear about the good things a black man does and frankly you never will.</div></div>
And whose fault is that? It is said that one in four black men are in prison, and we hear about those ones just about every day via the mass media. How often do you hear about the three of four who are not imprisoned and making useful contributions to society? It's a societal thing; good news doesn't sell newspapers and ads, and frankly some people love the drama of dsyfunction.

Maybe those involved with black men, one way or another, who are doing "good things" should start threads about those men? [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70402-thinking.gif[/img] In the meantime, let's not pretend we don't have our dirt. That the majority of black men may be constructively engaged does not mean that we as a community do not have some serious social issues that need addressing.

[MarieK]

Re: "Black People, Babies, And Breakups"

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CEW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mrs. MarieK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Agree, you never hear about the good things a black man does and frankly you never will.</div></div>
And whose fault is that? It is said that one in four black men are in prison, and we hear about those ones just about every day via the mass media. How often do you hear about the three of four who are not imprisoned and making useful contributions to society? It's a societal thing; good news doesn't sell newspapers and ads, and frankly some people love the drama of dsyfunction.

Maybe those involved with black men, one way or another, who are doing "good things" should start threads about those men? [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70402-thinking.gif[/img] In the meantime, let's not pretend we don't have our dirt. That the majority of black men may be constructively engaged does not mean that we as a community do not have some serious social issues that need addressing. </div></div>

sigh

It all depends on the circle in which you travel.

Personally, I don't buy into this generalization bull that this article is selling.

[rufian]

Re: "Black People, Babies, And Breakups"

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mrs. MarieK</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mrs. MarieK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Frankly, this entire article is bull crap. </div></div>
how so? </div></div>

sigh </div></div>
well write one article nuh? if black man all dat bad an unfit for family dem wudnt have de rush? [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70402-thinking.gif[/img]

[MarieK]

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I shouldn't have to write an article for people to realise the value in what they have. I am quite content with my own realization that this article is garbage and that all black men cannot be lumped together and who buys this testosterone garbage. I mean really, are we that dumb to play into this.

All I have to say is this. Individuals are just that individuals and are not shaped by race but by individual characteristics that set one person apart from another. There are numerous men out there black white spanish, indian, chinese who cheat, are in jail and have many kids out of wedlock. There are just as much black men who work and work hard, take care fo family, are in committed relationships and have never been in jail or run afoul of the law in anyway, respectful to their women, wonderful providers, perfect husbands, and great lovers of just their wives, understanding and most of all dedicated. I observe them everyday. Want one? Call me? Most of them are friends and family members

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[rufian]

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well it is those very common characteristics that make up race,
if we look to black origins we will see very high family values, imo it is not race why black men dont stay around and father their children, social issues seem to be the problem, some racially provoked of course.

Promiscuous behaviour me notice wid me own yeye look more like lack of home training on the mothers' behalf - all circular

[MarieK]

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den nuh dat miseh

[Yvonne N.]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mrs. MarieK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
... There are numerous men out there [black] white spanish, indian, chinese who cheat, are in jail and have many kids out of wedlock.

<span style="color: #006600"> ...and they are dealing with their issues...who's going to deal with ours? </span>

There are just as much black men who work and work hard, take care fo family, are in committed relationships and have never been in jail or run afoul of the law in anyway, respectful to their women, wonderful providers, perfect husbands, and great lovers of just their wives, understanding and most of all dedicated.

<span style="color: #006600"> ...but they do not make up the bulk of the black society.

Among my family and friends, many of the college achievers who did not go to Ivy League went to Europe, USA or Canada and the rest have illustrious careers....but...that's our family, and my friends...not 'John Brown's' or 'Joe Blow's'.

So, to whom much is given, much is expected.
Addressing the issues in one's comunity, however small, will eventually add up...but first, we have to accept that there are issues ...in our neck of the woods. </span>

I observe them everyday. Want one? Call me? Most of them are friends and family members

<span style="color: #006600"> That's admirable and encouraging...many of us are privy to the company men like those... but not all families have made those choices. Again I quote, To whom much has been given, much is expected...and there are men, black men, who now need to help change things around.
Just accept it and let's get busy.

</span>

Don't [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rolleyes.gif[/img] </div></div> <span style="color: #006600">Just do some reserach on that testosterone thing.</span>

[ZaraJah]

Re: "Black People, Babies, And Breakups"

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CEW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mrs. MarieK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Agree, you never hear about the good things a black man does and frankly you never will.</div></div>
And whose fault is that? It is said that one in four black men are in prison, and we hear about those ones just about every day via the mass media. How often do you hear about the three of four who are not imprisoned and making useful contributions to society? It's a societal thing; good news doesn't sell newspapers and ads, and frankly some people love the drama of dsyfunction.

Maybe those involved with black men, one way or another, who are doing "good things" should start threads about those men? [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70402-thinking.gif[/img] In the meantime, let's not pretend we don't have our dirt. That the majority of black men may be constructively engaged does not mean that we as a community do not have some serious social issues that need addressing. </div></div>

FRANKLY, I think you have a lot of nerves to say that. [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70400-talktohand.gif[/img]

I am sick and tired of black men expecting and requesting that black women protect them, nurture them and uplift them.

What are you doing to dispel the myth CEW? Do you mentor black young men and do you go to the press with the positive things black men are doing in your society?

Why aren't MORE black men aggressively fighting against the spreading of this type of nonsense? Instead, it appears to me as if you relish in it.

Why should the burden always rest on the shoulders of the black women...from the cradle to the grave? Are you not a black man who care or do you only care to spread the myth? Where on the hill do you stand, MAN? Where is your backbone? Where is your pride? Are you not just as capable to spread good news? [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad2.gif[/img]

STEP UP BLACK MEN and do more than spreading the stereotypical bull about you and your brothers. HE IS NOT HEAVY, HE <span style="color: #FF0000"> (who is covered in blood, whom "they" throw in jail, rape, lynch, keep jobless, poison with drugs, inject with diseases, denegrate, MOCK and astrocize)</span> ...IS YOUR BROTHER!

Look down only when you can pick up...otherwise you are just a bag of air...using up oxygen...

Disclaimer - You above stands for those who only choose to spread the myth.

[ZaraJah]

Re: "Black People, Babies, And Breakups"

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mrs. MarieK</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mrs. MarieK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Frankly, this entire article is bull crap. </div></div>
how so? </div></div>

sigh </div></div>
well write one article nuh? if black man all dat bad an unfit for family dem wudnt have de rush? [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70402-thinking.gif[/img] </div></div>

Have you written any articles Sukuna? You seem to have a lot of interesting knowledge/insights about black people in general and I would be interested in reading some of your work. I am very serious about that. [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70409-waytogo.gif[/img]

[MarieK]

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continue to wallow in the pity party and you will never see the apple that is infront of you.

Society puts too much pressure on what the black man should be and are quick to point out what they think he actually is.

1 in four is in jail. That'st eh minority, NOT the majority.

I know someone who spends so much time complainign on what the black man is or shoudl be or isn't that she's lonely and bitter. People will always be people and they will always be judgmental but I REFUSE to buy into the theory that our men are genetically disposed to cheating. Heck once upon a time we were genetically disposed to being slaves...........

choopidness. Then again, I have never been a follower, always a leader so I don't really buy inot this crap and normally I find men who beleive in these articles are just looking for a way to cop out of their own insecurities and failures as men.

Well I guess my uncles and other men I know hwo are faithful to their wives are not black, since they are genetically supposed to cheat and procreate with numerous women.

People will always draw their own conclusions and nothing you can do or say can dispel that. On here people think, through my writings, that I am of a certain personality, but guess waht, that's what I WANT them to think, here the author is doing teh same thing, they WANT you to think low of black men, crush a man's spirit, that's how you kill him.

[MarieK]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I am sick and tired of black men expecting and requesting that black women protect them, nurture them and uplift them. </div></div>

xactly.

Why should I come here and laud and praise a brother for doing waht he's supposed to do. Puhleeze

[MarieK]

Re: "Black People, Babies, And Breakups"

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shandra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=Mrs. MarieK]
<span style="color: #006600"> ...and they are dealing with their issues...who's going to deal with ours? </span>

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they're dealing with it by shoving the black person forward by saying don't look at us, look what he's doing.

[Blackstar*]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jaded</div><div class="ubbcode-body">CEW..I'm really surprised the simple reality of unplanned pregnancies due to lack of BC is not on the list.. [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] </div></div>
That's the first thing I noticed too.

Also, speaking of respect, I overheard two white men at a café slagging off women. I thought to myself "Why do men disrespect women so? And women do it too." So mutual disrespect between the sexes definitely isn't a racial thing.