Zahara Marley Jolie

**Bink - the Only** · 07-09-2005, 12:56 AM

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bnd, can you let me into your clique, please? i beg you ... i have been around here for almost 10 years and have never been invited into a clique.

even wendy has never invited me into her clique.

i feel so weak. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

**Bink - the Only** · 07-09-2005, 12:58 AM

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Originally posted by pinkiloo:
[qb] laughter and comraderie whilst ignoring the ill and venom of friends.
what we need is not more "love", whatever that is, but HONESTY.

if you were face to face with me and you made such a statement you would have to come correct! [/qb]

you, dear, bring disrespect on pinkylou.

please find another non de plume.

**Tuff Gong** · 07-09-2005, 01:05 AM

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Well I am ready to read....13 pages I will try anyway!

**Tuff Gong** · 07-09-2005, 01:08 AM

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Originally posted by blugiant:
[qb] mi didd wait fi de hurricane fi pass fully beefour mi bunn fiyah pon dat crazee yt wooman fi adopting da african girl [/qb]

If she was sane (is she crazy?) would you object?

**Bink - the Only** · 07-09-2005, 01:09 AM

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Originally posted by Tuff Gong:
[qb] Well I am ready to read....13 pages I will try anyway! [/qb]

lazy *** .. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img]

get reading and come back and tell us your take on things.

**Guest** · 07-09-2005, 01:10 AM

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Originally posted by Tuff Gong:
[qb]

Originally posted by Jedi l:
[qb]Excuse me? did you see my posting in the politrix forum upon my return from Jamaica. Try yuh best. [/qb]

Yes and essentially it said Jamaicans were ungrateful to complain because the Government provided Highways for them.
If that was sum total of your understanding of what is taking place in Jamaica then I have say you cannot have no overstanding of what is going on in Jamaica. [/qb]

Okay and this is where we started:

I said before it is not what is said but who is saying it is the problem here. We really have a problem of denial when it comes to the hard core reality of what is really going on in Jamaica. Maybe if we would face the truths and act accordingly we wouldn't need any outsider to point out the obvious to us.
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I cannot believe you are saying this.
Some persons never remember their own postings!

And could you kindly elaborate for me on how my opinion of highway 2000 (an apparent topic of much controversy in Jamaica) and the reaction of the people towards it, negate what I said in the above dialogue? And furthermore did you get the opportunity to read any of the other threads which I posted on that forum? You see I am not surprised that you would pick on that particular thread, but hear this. I call it di way I see it. For as much as Jamaica has fallen victim to curruption from every angle, I still maintain that the people themselves are having a free for all as well when it comes to giving back to the country. Please check your spread sheets carefully to see all that I have said.

And with that said I still maintain my opinion that when the wrong poster makes what can be construed as a negative remark about Jamaica, every body gets into a brinkle. The facts remains the same regardless of who is pointing them out.
But in these ways we show our true hearts and our prejudices whether we realize it or not. And when all is said and done Jamaica remains the same and nothing has changed. Mi done chat!

**Tuff Gong** · 07-09-2005, 01:13 AM

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Originally posted by Emperah dahJah:
[qb]i just stated a fact of weh she would be more beneficial to the ppl.[/qb]

A fact or your preference?

**Tuff Gong** · 07-09-2005, 01:14 AM

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Originally posted by Jedi l:
[qb]

Originally posted by Tuff Gong:
[qb]

Originally posted by Jedi l:
[qb]Excuse me? did you see my posting in the politrix forum upon my return from Jamaica. Try yuh best. [/qb]

Yes and essentially it said Jamaicans were ungrateful to complain because the Government provided Highways for them.
If that was sum total of your understanding of what is taking place in Jamaica then I have say you cannot have no overstanding of what is going on in Jamaica. [/qb]

Okay and this is where we started:

I said before it is not what is said but who is saying it is the problem here. We really have a problem of denial when it comes to the hard core reality of what is really going on in Jamaica. Maybe if we would face the truths and act accordingly we wouldn't need any outsider to point out the obvious to us.
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I cannot believe you are saying this.
Some persons never remember their own postings!

And could you kindly elaborate for me on how my opinion of highway 2000 (an apparent topic of much controversy in Jamaica) and the reaction of the people towards it, negate what I said in the above dialogue? And furthermore did you get the opportunity to read any of the other threads which I posted on that forum? You see I am not surprised that you would pick on that particular thread, but hear this. I call it di way I see it. For as much as Jamaica has fallen victim to curruption from every angle, I still maintain that the people themselves are having a free for all as well when it comes to giving back to the country. Please check your spread sheets carefully to see all that I have said.

And with that said I still maintain my opinion that when the wrong poster makes what can be construed as a negative remark about Jamaica, every body gets into a brinkle. The facts remains the same regardless of who is pointing them out.
But in these ways we show our true hearts and our prejudices whether we realize it or not. And when all is said and done Jamaica remains the same and nothing has changed. Mi done chat! [/qb]

Mi soon get to yu!

**Tuff Gong** · 07-09-2005, 01:14 AM

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Originally posted by bink:
[qb]

Originally posted by Tuff Gong:
[qb] Well I am ready to read....13 pages I will try anyway! [/qb]

lazy *** .. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img]

get reading and come back and tell us your take on things. [/qb]

Mi soon get to you too!

**Tuff Gong** · 07-09-2005, 01:16 AM

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Originally posted by mangoskin:

some not even supporting dem own pickney!!! [/QB]

That was cruel!

**Tuff Gong** · 07-09-2005, 01:27 AM

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Originally posted by blugiant:
[qb]

Originally posted by Q3210:
[qb] "The country of 70 million has more than five million orphans, their parents lost to famine, disease, war and AIDS" ...adopting one of those 5,000,000 is a good gesture, but how effective for the other 4,999,000 left behind with maybe a few more lucky to gain beneficiary status?
How effective are these gestures to the Governments and the culture where famine seems a part of life, to change their power broking into simple humanitarian means. [/qb]

sund like sinting a yt wey justifying slackness wood riiite [/qb]

I don't overstand, how is saying that an adoption is good sinting Ytee would say but Blacks would not?

**mountaingal** · 07-09-2005, 01:28 AM

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well, it's been an interesting and eye-opening read, so far. lots of things i could say, but i'll confine it to this:

1. i think the name Zahara sounds like a desert.

2. i've just read a Vanity Fair article on Angelina Jolie, and whatever her past sins, it appears she has put a lot of them behind her and is committed to being a good mother. i personally would give her the benefit of the doubt in her adoption of an Ethiopian child. i think it is a good move.

3. poverty is a complex issue. it used to be that having many children was seen as a guard against poverty, believe it or not, because it increased the chances of more of them surviving to adulthood and being able to take care of the family and the elder ones.

4. i agree with those who would say that Jamaica's problems with poverty have less to do with the number of children being born to poor parents, but more with the lack of economic opportunity for those said parents. I do believe most Jamaicans value parenting and want the best for their children, not necessarily for themselves.

5. and finally, this is a discussion board. comments are made and are open to question and challenge. in the case of a comment that appears to be contentious, it sometimes aggravates matters when others rush to defend the person who is being questioned, and try to speak for them. understandable, for sure, especially when we know personally the person being challenged. but what more often than results is that trying to speak and explain for others brings in secondary issues, and tangents and red herrings and all kinds of things and we just end up with an escalated and counterproductive situation. it is often better to have the person dialogue with the questioner and have the opportunity to defend/explain/expand on their original comment for everyone's fuller understanding.

**Q3210** · 07-09-2005, 01:30 AM

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de troot is an offense...jah jah...but not a sin

**Q3210** · 07-09-2005, 01:32 AM

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Kinkiloo where are you, kinkiloo do the boogaloo,

**Tuff Gong** · 07-09-2005, 01:33 AM

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Originally posted by blugiant:
[qb]

Originally posted by BND1999:
[qb] wonder why we have to over scrutinize every move a person makes....

while i think there are some odd things about Jolie...i find her admirable... she's proactive.. she's a straight shooter..makes no qualms about what she feels and think.. and she makes her dent in life...or atleast tries to

think more people have to focus more on making their own dents in life.. rather than diminish what others try to do [/qb]

yu kno dat mi neva scrutunize eveeree move. wile mi doo find summ aff de tings shee doo admirable.

eveeree group ave a responsibiltee fii protect deer children. iff a group fail fii protect owwa yuth den dat leed to kultural genocide.[/qb]

Protect how and why cultural genocide?

[qb]...da qwestian here iss weather unquailfied people aff annadda group shood bee allowed da privvileges aff raisinnn yuths fram ann exxploited group [/qb]

Who find her unqualified and in what sense?
Should unqualified persons from the like group be allowed the privilege being parents to youth from the exploited group?

Zahara Marley Jolie

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