The atheist agenda, from an atheist perspective.

**Fledgist** · 09-15-2002, 10:45 AM

Re: The atheist agenda, from an atheist perspective.

Originally posted by accepted:
[qb]Fledgist

I think the reasoning behind Mutty post, "If you don't destroy it,it will destroy you" is applicable here.

But Gods extended warranty called 'Mercy' still abounds, so like all other evils they are tolerated and supressed by the power of the Holy Spirit in the world living in the hearts of believers. Recall what Jesus says about the wheat and the tares, they grow togather untill the separation at Harvestime.

Plus things have changed since Dueteronomy, we don't live in a theocracy anymore.[/qb]

So you can disobey direct commands stated in the Bible?

**NYer** · 09-15-2002, 05:05 PM

Re: The atheist agenda, from an atheist perspective.

Originally posted by Fledgist:
So you can disobey direct commands stated in the Bible?

When it suits you, obviously.

In the same way of thinking, you can read God's mind on any number of issues that aren't direct commands or in some cases, bot mentioned in the Bible at all.

Neat, isn't it?

**accepted77** · 09-15-2002, 05:30 PM

Re: The atheist agenda, from an atheist perspective.

Isrealites

You are good at saying a lot of nothing.
You are either a christian or not, what wrong with saying.

I am not a christian.

I needed an answer so I can try to relate to your world view. You are so bent on finding fault with me that you fail to see the importance of what I am asking.

Do you believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and died for the sins of man and there is no other way to God but through him?

That is my question.

**accepted77** · 09-15-2002, 05:36 PM

Re: The atheist agenda, from an atheist perspective.

Originally posted by Fledgist:
[qb]So you can disobey direct commands stated in the Bible?[/qb]

Come on Fledgist, didn't God say, "vengence is mine I will repay".

Just be patient, It is the will of God that none shall perish, not even wiccans, he is lonnnnnnng suffering and full of mercy.

**mountaingal** · 09-15-2002, 05:45 PM

Re: The atheist agenda, from an atheist perspective.

Originally posted by accepted:
[qb]No need to think like me MG, but to think like Jesus, now that's something to get excited about.

eek [img]/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/qb]

who says I don't think like Jesus? [img]/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

**Israelites** · 09-15-2002, 10:22 PM

Re: The atheist agenda, from an atheist perspective.

Originally posted by accepted:
[qb]Isrealites

You are good at saying a lot of nothing.
You are either a christian or not, what wrong with saying.

I am not a christian.

I needed an answer so I can try to relate to your world view. You are so bent on finding fault with me that you fail to see the importance of what I am asking.

Do you believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and died for the sins of man and there is no other way to God but through him?

That is my question.[/qb]

I answered the question. Plain and simple, just because I don't refer to myself using an insult, doesn't mean I don't believe in what the Bible says.

**Fledgist** · 09-16-2002, 10:22 AM

Re: The atheist agenda, from an atheist perspective.

Originally posted by NYer:
[qb]

Originally posted by Fledgist:
So you can disobey direct commands stated in the Bible?

When it suits you, obviously.

In the same way of thinking, you can read God's mind on any number of issues that aren't direct commands or in some cases, bot mentioned in the Bible at all.

Neat, isn't it?[/qb]

I am reminded of an epigram by Sir John Squire at the beginning of the First World War:

God heard the embattled nations sing and shout,
'Gott strafe Engeland,' 'God save the King,'
'God this, God that, and God the other thing.'
'My God,' said God, 'I've got my work cut out.'

**Fledgist** · 09-16-2002, 10:24 AM

Re: The atheist agenda, from an atheist perspective.

Originally posted by accepted:
[qb]

Originally posted by Fledgist:
[qb]So you can disobey direct commands stated in the Bible?[/qb]

Come on Fledgist, didn't God say, "vengence is mine I will repay".

Just be patient, It is the will of God that none shall perish, not even wiccans, he is lonnnnnnng suffering and full of mercy.[/qb]

Yes, but the Bible also says 'thou shalt not suffer a witch to live'. (BTW, that isn't vengeance, it's preemptive murder.)

**Israelites** · 09-17-2002, 08:38 PM

Re: The atheist agenda, from an atheist perspective.

Originally posted by Fledgist:
[qb]Yes, but the Bible also says 'thou shalt not suffer a witch to live'. (BTW, that isn't vengeance, it's preemptive murder.)[/qb]

I beg to differ Fledg, it doesn't say to kill them anywhere in the Bible. On the other hand it does say

euteronomy 18
14 "For those nations, which you shall dispossess, listen to those who (1) practice witchcraft and to diviners, but as for you, the LORD your God has not allowed you to do so.

Bascially saying for us(Christians and/or believers) not to listen to them. That's all folks! [img]/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

**Fledgist** · 09-17-2002, 08:45 PM

Re: The atheist agenda, from an atheist perspective.

Originally posted by Israelites:
[qb]

Originally posted by Fledgist:
[qb]Yes, but the Bible also says 'thou shalt not suffer a witch to live'. (BTW, that isn't vengeance, it's preemptive murder.)[/qb]

I beg to differ Fledg, it doesn't say to kill them anywhere in the Bible. On the other hand it does say

euteronomy 18
14 "For those nations, which you shall dispossess, listen to those who (1) practice witchcraft and to diviners, but as for you, the LORD your God has not allowed you to do so.

Bascially saying for us(Christians and/or believers) not to listen to them. That's all folks! [img]/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [/qb]

Er, exactly how does not permitting someone to live not equate to killing them?

**NYer** · 09-17-2002, 10:11 PM

Re: The atheist agenda, from an atheist perspective.

Right before v 14: 12 Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD , and because of these detestable practices the LORD your God will drive out those nations before you. 13 You must be blameless before the LORD your God.

What happens when someone is "driven out"?

**Israelites** · 09-17-2002, 10:28 PM

Re: The atheist agenda, from an atheist perspective.

Originally posted by NYer:
[qb]Right before v 14: 12 Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD , and because of these detestable practices the LORD your God will drive out those nations before you. 13 You must be blameless before the LORD your God.

What happens when someone is "driven out"?[/qb]

Uh, made to move somewhere else.

**Fledgist** · 09-18-2002, 09:36 AM

Re: The atheist agenda, from an atheist perspective.

Originally posted by Israelites:
[qb]

Originally posted by NYer:
[qb]Right before v 14: 12 Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD , and because of these detestable practices the LORD your God will drive out those nations before you. 13 You must be blameless before the LORD your God.

What happens when someone is "driven out"?[/qb]

Uh, made to move somewhere else.[/qb]

And this is done without killing people?

**NYer** · 09-18-2002, 05:41 PM

Re: The atheist agenda, from an atheist perspective.

Originally posted by Israelites:
[qb]What happens when someone is "driven out"?[/qb]

Uh, made to move somewhere else.

Gotcha. That's what i thought but I share Fledgist's question above.

The atheist agenda, from an atheist perspective.

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