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Re: Michael Manley was the only dirty Prime Minister of Jama
If I understand you correctly you are either saying that the JLP or neither party can solve the problems of Jamaica what with all the corruption.
Which begs the question: If things got so bad because of the PNP why, then do the Jamaican people reelect them to office?
And then there's this odd statement: " Capitalism has been a whole lot more successful than Socialism..."
Well let's see......... Cuba with a much lower per capita income than Jamaica's ranks 45th in the world and Jamaica 78th in the U.N.'s Human Development
Index. There's relatively little crime . no gang warfare, not much drug use or trade, great health and educational opportunities blah blah blah you know the rest. Socialism a failure?
How about the Soviet Union under a totalitarian Stalin rising from the ashes of two world wars and 50 million of it's people killed, it's industrial base such as it was totally destroyed coming back so that in 25 years or so it had the #2 economy in the world. Hardly a failure.
But then if you mean that capitalism has been a bigger success than socialism in JAMAICA , you cannot understand what socialism is since Jamaica never came close to having a socialist economy. You cannot claim that capitalism has worked better than socialism when socialism has never been tried.
Jamaica like all the rest of the Third World suffers from the effects of capitalism on poor countries; high poverty rates, violent crime, corruption, illiteracy, unemployment despair and as all on this board have admitted capitalism offers no cures for the ills it creates. Those effects and the poverty at the root of these ill effects are integral to a capitalist economy and those effects are exacerbated by the lack of wealth and resources in any given underdeveloped country.
i.e. no bootstraps with which to pull yourself up ,more of the same and sorry you cannot blame the PNP nor the JLP for what is systemic and which is supported by both (business) parties.
I will go further and say that, as demonstrated by the Jamaican people's lack of support for Manley's lean to the left, the system as is and with all it's inherent failures is preferred by a majority of the Jamaican people.
That is clear although I would have thought that democracy in both the political and economic spheres would have been preferred.
It would seem that most Jamaicans, like most Americans, would rather be told what to do than to be part of the decision making processes in the electoral and economic areas of life.
If I understand you correctly you are either saying that the JLP or neither party can solve the problems of Jamaica what with all the corruption.
Which begs the question: If things got so bad because of the PNP why, then do the Jamaican people reelect them to office?
And then there's this odd statement: " Capitalism has been a whole lot more successful than Socialism..."
Well let's see......... Cuba with a much lower per capita income than Jamaica's ranks 45th in the world and Jamaica 78th in the U.N.'s Human Development
Index. There's relatively little crime . no gang warfare, not much drug use or trade, great health and educational opportunities blah blah blah you know the rest. Socialism a failure?
How about the Soviet Union under a totalitarian Stalin rising from the ashes of two world wars and 50 million of it's people killed, it's industrial base such as it was totally destroyed coming back so that in 25 years or so it had the #2 economy in the world. Hardly a failure.
But then if you mean that capitalism has been a bigger success than socialism in JAMAICA , you cannot understand what socialism is since Jamaica never came close to having a socialist economy. You cannot claim that capitalism has worked better than socialism when socialism has never been tried.
Jamaica like all the rest of the Third World suffers from the effects of capitalism on poor countries; high poverty rates, violent crime, corruption, illiteracy, unemployment despair and as all on this board have admitted capitalism offers no cures for the ills it creates. Those effects and the poverty at the root of these ill effects are integral to a capitalist economy and those effects are exacerbated by the lack of wealth and resources in any given underdeveloped country.
i.e. no bootstraps with which to pull yourself up ,more of the same and sorry you cannot blame the PNP nor the JLP for what is systemic and which is supported by both (business) parties.
I will go further and say that, as demonstrated by the Jamaican people's lack of support for Manley's lean to the left, the system as is and with all it's inherent failures is preferred by a majority of the Jamaican people.
That is clear although I would have thought that democracy in both the political and economic spheres would have been preferred.
It would seem that most Jamaicans, like most Americans, would rather be told what to do than to be part of the decision making processes in the electoral and economic areas of life.
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