I have had it

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Partitioning Software

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nylah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, I am doing this on my desktop since it is the one with the annoying Vista program. I am fine with the laptop. It is just that I had to install a new wireless laser printer at home and the desktop caused me no endless grief but I was able to network just fine with my laptop running XP.

The partition thing isnt a 100% completed yet. Once it is done I think setting up the seperate drives should go quickly....or are you gonna tell me otherwise.

I have the full version XP disk, if that is what you are referring to </div></div>

Wow I wish I had seen this earlier I could have saved you a hundred hours. I can refresh a drive in about 5 minutes then have XP format and load all the updates on which takes about 8 hours. The wipe of the drive and the partition is done in DOS, which is a thousand times faster than doing in Windows.

[Nylah]

Re: Partitioning Software

do you see my tears Tuff Gong?

okay, the Vista partition thing crashed overnight - no surprise

Please tell me how to do it in DOS


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nylah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, I am doing this on my desktop since it is the one with the annoying Vista program. I am fine with the laptop. It is just that I had to install a new wireless laser printer at home and the desktop caused me no endless grief but I was able to network just fine with my laptop running XP.

The partition thing isnt a 100% completed yet. Once it is done I think setting up the seperate drives should go quickly....or are you gonna tell me otherwise.

I have the full version XP disk, if that is what you are referring to </div></div>

Wow I wish I had seen this earlier I could have saved you a hundred hours. I can refresh a drive in about 5 minutes then have XP format and load all the updates on which takes about 8 hours. The wipe of the drive and the partition is done in DOS, which is a thousand times faster than doing in Windows. </div></div>

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Partitioning Software

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nylah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">do you see my tears Tuff Gong?

okay, the Vista partition thing crashed overnight - no surprise

Please tell me how to do it in DOS </div></div>Okay a little later the explanation is a bit more involved than the actual routine which I can assure only takes a few minutes:

Some preparatory questions:

#1 Do you know how to get into the BIOS?
#2 Can you boot from Floppy?
#3 Can you boot from CDROM?
#4 How large is you drive?


#5 Why did you want to switch from Vista anyway?
I don't use it but if I had it I would work through all the faults, confident in the through that Micro-Hard had to have sent a couple hundred fixes by now...you don't have to answer this one.

[Nylah]

Re: Partitioning Software


Questions:

1. Yes
2. No, I have no floppy drive
3. Yes, have multiple CDROM slots
4. 320GB, and 288GB left at the moment
5. Too many connectivity problems.
a)all of a sudden it stopped connecting to my <span style="font-weight: bold">wireles
router</span> and <span style="font-weight: bold">wireless printer (s).</span>
I need to run cables
now which is difficult given how my office is set up.
b) no longer connects as a network to my laptop
so that I can share files easily.
c) it freezes and/or crashes endlessly while
I am working and I need to re-boot to sort it out.
d) still doesnt work smoothly with some of my work
programs. A couple of financial programs I still run
only on my laptop because they will not install
properly on Vista even with the patches given.

[Nylah]

Re: Partitioning Software



where is my friend Tuff Gong?

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Partitioning Software

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nylah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

where is my friend Tuff Gong? </div></div>

hold on a sec.. I am shipping some stuff and my vehicle has been stuck in the mud since Sunday when I tried to do some dumbass maneuvers.... so I have to walk or ride my Bike to the Post Office.... because these packages have to go out today and I was stupid enough not to schedule a delivery...oh I have not time to call the towing service yet.... too busy.
But I am going to give the instructions as soon as I get forward from the P.O.

Oh and since you have not floppy I will have to do a little test first....

[Nylah]

Re: Partitioning Software


okay I'll stop being so impatient
And you can ignore my threatening, slightly hysterical PM

Would be funny to know which dumbazzz maneuvers you did to get yourself stuck in the mud though

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nylah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

where is my friend Tuff Gong? </div></div>

hold on a sec.. I am shipping some stuff and my vehicle has been stuck in the mud since Sunday when I tried to do some dumbass maneuvers.... so I have to walk or ride my Bike to the Post Office.... because these packages have to go out today and I was stupid enough not to schedule a delivery...oh I have not time to call the towing service yet.... too busy.
But I am going to give the instructions as soon as I get forward from the P.O.

Oh and since you have not floppy I will have to do a little test first.... </div></div>

[Bandana]

Re: Partitioning Software

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nylah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
okay I'll stop being so impatient
And you can ignore my threatening, slightly hysterical PM

</div></div>

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Partitioning Software

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BanDanna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nylah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
okay I'll stop being so impatient
And you can ignore my threatening, slightly hysterical PM

</div></div>

</div></div>

LOL!

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Partitioning Software

Okay I am going to make some assumptions, correct as you see fit:

You want to wipe your drive clean?
You have your data files safely tuck away in an undisclosed location?
You have access to a least XP Service Pack 1 and it is one another drive/computer/CDROM/Media preferably in the same location as your data?

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc768378.aspx

You have access to SP2...ditto?

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc768378.aspx

You have access to SP3.... ditto?

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc768378.aspx

You have the pass-code to your XP Installation?


Here what you are really trying to do

#1 Boot the Computer
#2 Wipe the drive clean (not absolutely necessary as Portioning and Reformat will accomplish the a similar end.
#3 you want to use XP to Reformat the Drive and Install itself to the reconditioned Drive.

Finally you now want to bring XP into the 21 Century hence the need for the Service Packs and Security Updates.

Okay it looks like SP3 will install on a naked XP Reinstall if not then let me know when we get to it and I will Zip Xp1/2/3 and send to you or put it where you can access it.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc768378.aspx

[Nylah]

Re: Partitioning Software


for the two of you

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BanDanna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nylah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
okay I'll stop being so impatient
And you can ignore my threatening, slightly hysterical PM

</div></div>

</div></div>

LOL! </div></div>

[Nylah]

Re: Partitioning Software

Okay, we have hit a snag right of the bat

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You want to wipe your drive clean?
You have your data files safely tuck away in an undisclosed location?</div></div>

NO! I dont want to wipe my drive clean. That is what I am trying to avoid doing at the moment. I want to create partitions for both XP and Vista on my desktop, so I can cherry pick for the moment. It is too close to year-end for me to be wiping stuff off and having to replace cookies, passwords, etc.

My data files are stored on an external hard drive and at an off-site server as well.


As for service packs no problem with any of that.

[Bandana]

Re: Partitioning Software

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nylah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
for the two of you

</div></div>





THE NERVE!!

[Nylah]

Re: Partitioning Software


Only Imanni gets one of these

TG, I need to disappear for an hour. My headache wont ease up and I cant stare at this computer for much longer. I'll be back in a bit to check what you have to say.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BanDanna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nylah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
for the two of you

</div></div>





THE NERVE!! </div></div>

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Partitioning Software

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nylah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Okay, we have hit a snag right of the bat

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You want to wipe your drive clean?
You have your data files safely tuck away in an undisclosed location?</div></div>

NO! I dont want to wipe my drive clean. That is what I am trying to avoid doing at the moment. I want to create partitions for both XP and Vista on my desktop, so I can cherry pick for the moment. It is too close to year-end for me to be wiping stuff off and having to replace cookies, passwords, etc.

My data files are stored on an external hard drive and at an off-site server as well.


As for service packs no problem with any of that.
</div></div>...Well in my way it was not exactly necessary to wipe the drive, but I do since I am totally rebuilding.

Now to your specific desire...let me explain my overstanding before I look it up.
I don't know what file system Windows Vista uses but I suspect it is the same as Windows XP, which is NTFS...A PC normally supports one Master Boot Record.
I say that to say this. The ability to only support one MBR allows you to hide one Operating System from another. So each Operating System will use the one MBR, which is commanded by a Batch File that turn the operating system you want based on answers to a prompt.

Then the operating system that you turn on will share a common file base with the others, thereby enabling you to work on a file and have the result available in any of the Operating System.
I don't know that you can run both of the Windows Operating System that shares the same routines in the same system unless you use an emulator. As in Installing only vista and using a Windows XP Emulator.

As an example of what I am trying to say, in my multi-boot environment I can get a PC to Boot to DOS, Linux, Windows 98 and Windows XP but it would be impossible to have the same system share Windows 2000, Windows NT4 and Windows XP because they are basically the same as well as Windows 98 and Windows 95 could not exist on the same machine.

So I will have to do a little looking around to see if Windows Vista and XP can exist as separate Operating System and not one an Emulator running on top of the other in a Windows environment.