..Ontario Black "Focused" (only) Schools..

[sagal]

Re: ..Ontario Black "Focused" (only) Schools..

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TLC_Beauty</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We fought tooth and nail to move forward and now we wanna go back to this foolishness...

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so this is going backward to you?
So because your yute can sit beside a yt smaddy in a school is progress? </div></div>

What is progress to you?

[Emperah]

Re: ..Ontario Black &quot;Focused&quot; (only) Schools..

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TLC_Beauty</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TLC_Beauty</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We fought tooth and nail to move forward and now we wanna go back to this foolishness...

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so this is going backward to you?
So because your yute can sit beside a yt smaddy in a school is progress? </div></div>


Dahjah, lass week yu gimmi wan wikked migraine inna di SB....nat agen enoh, nat agen </div></div>

[Emperah]

Re: ..Ontario Black &quot;Focused&quot; (only) Schools..

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sagal</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TLC_Beauty</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We fought tooth and nail to move forward and now we wanna go back to this foolishness...

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so this is going backward to you?
So because your yute can sit beside a yt smaddy in a school is progress? </div></div>

What is progress to you? </div></div>

when our youths are progressing and they know themselves and are proud to be who they are.

[sagal]

Re: ..Ontario Black &quot;Focused&quot; (only) Schools..

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sagal</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

We fought tooth and nail to move forward and now we wanna go back to this foolishness...

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so this is going backward to you?
So because your yute can sit beside a yt smaddy in a school is progress? </div></div>

What is progress to you? </div></div>

when our youths are progressing and they know themselves and are proud to be who they are.

...and I think you may want to add when they are treated equally and also with dignity. To be treated like first class citizens that they are That they must have a voice and it must be heard. That's progress

Goodnight Folks

[Emperah]

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exactly

[H_O]

Re: ..Ontario Black &quot;Focused&quot; (only) Schools..

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sagal</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

We fought tooth and nail to move forward and now we wanna go back to this foolishness...

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so this is going backward to you?
So because your yute can sit beside a yt smaddy in a school is progress? </div></div>

What is progress to you? </div></div>

when our youths are progressing and they know themselves and are proud to be who they are.

good point.

you forgot about teaching them not to bring guns to school and killing one another. black people do a fine job poisoning there own minds. Fifty Cent got capped 9 times, lived to rap about it, and hes cool . good role model

[X]

Re: ..Ontario Black &quot;Focused&quot; (only) Schools..

ooookkay..

how do I put this intelligently?
Cant think of anyway.. but eck a try express a thing.

Segregation was tried, and it failed. Its a fool that try the sae thing over and over again, see the failed results, but keep trying the same thing.

Ok as for trusting &quot;them&quot; and now &quot;wi own&quot;

First .. &quot;my own&quot; inna my pants.. dats the only thing mi trust.
If anyone think just cause the person bears the same skin color as you, you must automatically gi dem a pass inna di Trust criteria, well, maan dats a dangerous ground.
Mi deal with a one based on earned merits.
Yes it is encouraging to see a man with my color raise to high heights, but thats all it is. Encouragement.
Encouragement for my kids, and a hope to break a stigma attached to being black.

But as for trust just cause yuh black (like me). Heck no.
You have to earn that shyte.

Ok..
The school board.
Who says this segregation of kids was conceived by black people. Who says it was conceived by SMART black people. God knows I've seen some real classic ediots here in Ontario spouting themselves to be the black conciousness.
Lets think.. Of all races.. who most likly to prefer segregation? (at least as per how we grew up thinkin)
Black leaders in the past fought for de segregation.. &quot;The System&quot; fought to keep segregation.
Now we trust that &quot;The System&quot; has black peoples' best interest at heart in conceiving this notion of BO schools?

I guess its better to keep the general ciriculm anglo whatever, and let em negros have their own little eduction system. That way, we need not expose our white kids to the black experience.

This who &quot;trust&quot; this person, and trust dat person (with the education odf a child) to me as a parent is a cop out anyhow.
As parents WE need to get involved in our kids education and schooling experience.
Nuh just meck sure dem duh hoework.. But teck dem tuh di library on a Saturday. Pick out some books for them.
Meck dem readup pon a topic.. not necessarily taught in school.
Example. Mi 10 year old noticed that mi so uch in dis election thing, her interest got peeved. She even started making internet blogs re Sarah Paling.
Now she love har McDonalds.. But mi only meck she eat the fast food crap possible once every 2 mths (as mi is a fir believer in home cooked food)..
Suh mi tell har.. Research and tell me who is Rosa Parks. I want a 500 or more word essay on her. If a get it by the end of the week, we headed to McDnalds.
A mean.. that may not be the best mode or motivation, but thats the gist.
Still on mi 10 year old. When we moved to Canada, it was tuff for her. I remember she would ask her mom, why everyone else look different from her.
Mi made it a point a duty each day fi meck she know she is the most beautiful person on this earth. (which mi honestly think so still, but den again mi maybe baised)
Mi meck sure mi volunteer fi school events, and actually ventured to a council meeting where before mi left dem had voted me communication and liason officer.
Now dis school has a good mix.. Blacks and whites. Aldoe the black population are quite few, but growing.
But what mi noticed was, NOT ONE black parent other than mi volunteer fi anything. No one black parent comes to the councill meeting.
Now this is not an inditement, cause heck of the couple hundrend children, only a few parents show up for meetings, but as how we as black people so concerened bout wi kids education, you'd think we'd make the extra effort.
Point being (in that long seeded essay whey just preeced), we need to get off wi arses and get involved. Stop expect The System fi grow wi kids.
Black /White/ Yellow/ Brown.. The education system fails all.
Yes its more prounced with Blacks, but the system is not perfect, and we need as parents to be drivers not passengers, or stragglers.
Point being also that as we talk bout who to trust . It seems advocate of BO schools trusting &quot;The System&quot;, since this idea was conceived and driven by &quot;The System&quot;.. So lest not be delusional.

As for Mass HO and di 50cent comment.
50cent is more an icon for white kids than for black kids.
Poor black kids couldnt make, and keep, 50cents rich. Knoe dat.
Every rich rapper out there got rich (and poor) gullible white kids to thank. Suh who dem a role model fah again?

[Nylah]

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<span style="font-weight: bold">Who says this segregation of kids was conceived by black people. Who says it was conceived by SMART black people. God knows I've seen some real classic ediots here in Ontario spouting themselves to be the black conciousness.</span>

[Suesumba]

Re: ..Ontario Black &quot;Focused&quot; (only) Schools..

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: xKs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ooookkay..

Black /White/ Yellow/ Brown.. The education system fails all.
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... that's not quite true. i think blacks fail the system.

[Andrewnaqi]

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segregation was a success it was intergration that failed us.

under segreagation we had our own banks, mortgage companies, insurance companies etc.

Under intergration white people said let us do that for you and then all our own institutions began to fall one by one.

Look up black wall street for some real history sometime.

[X]

Re: ..Ontario Black &quot;Focused&quot; (only) Schools..

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Andrewnaqi</div><div class="ubbcode-body">segregation was a success it was intergration that failed us.

under segreagation we had our own banks, mortgage companies, insurance companies etc.

Under intergration white people said let us do that for you and then all our own institutions began to fall one by one.

Look up black wall street for some real history sometime. </div></div>


Ok
I'll look up black wall street for some real history sometime.

[Andrewnaqi]

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Black Wall Street

BLACK WALLSTREET
Please pass this on to the Iota Family. It's an important part of history that every Black person should know, if they don't know already.


Ron Wallace: co-author of Black Wallstreet: A Lost Dream Chronicles a little-known chapter of African-American History in Oklahoma as told to Ronald E. Childs. If anyone truly believes that the last April attack on the federal building in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, was the most tragic bombing ever to take place on United States soil, as the media has been widely reporting, they're wrong-plain and simple. That's because an even deadlier bomb occurred in that same state nearly 75 years ago.

Many people in high places would like to forget that it ever happened. Searching under the heading of &quot;riots,&quot; &quot;Oklahoma&quot; and &quot;Tulsa&quot; in current editions of the World Book Encyclopedia, there is conspicuously no mention whatsoever of the Tulsa race riot of 1921, and this omission is by no means a surprise, or a rare case. The fact is, one would also be hard-pressed to find documentation of the incident, let alone an accurate accounting of it, in any other &quot;scholarly&quot; reference or American history book.

That's precisely the point that noted author, publisher and orator Ron Wallace, a Tulsa native, sought to make nearly five years ago when he began researching this riot, one of the worst incidents of violence ever visited upon people of African descent. Ultimately joined on the project by colleague Jay Jay Wilson of Los Angeles, the duo found and compiled indisputable evidence of what they now describe as &quot;A Black Holocaust in America.&quot;

The date was June 1, 1921, when &quot;Black Wallstreet,&quot; the name fittingly given to one of the most affluent all-black communities in America, was bombed from the air and burned to the ground by mobs of envious whites. In a period spanning fewer than 12 hours, a once thriving 36-black business district in northern Tulsa lay smoldering-A model community destroyed, and a major Africa-American economic movement resoundingly defused.

The night's carnage left some 3,000 African Americans dead, and over 600 successful businesses lost. Among these were 21 churches, 21 restaurants, 30 grocery stores and two movie theaters, plus a hospital, a bank, a post office, libraries, schools, law offices, a half-dozen private airplanes and even a bus system. As could be expected, the impetus behind it all was the infamous Ku Klux Klan, working in consort with ranking city officials, and many other sympathizers. In their self-published book, Black Wallstreet: A lost Dream, and its companion video documentary, Black Wallstreet: A Black Holocaust in America!, the authors have chronicled for the very first time in the words of area historians and elderly survivors what really happened there on that fateful summer day in 1921 and why it happened. Wallace similarly explained to Black Elegance why this bloody event from the turn of the century seems to have had a recurring effect that is being felt in predominately Black neighborhoods even to this day. The best description of Black Wallstreet, or Little Africa as it was also known, would be to liken it to a mini-Beverly Hills. It was the golden door of the Black community during the early 1900s, and it proved that African Americans had successful infrastructure. That's what Black Wallstreet was about.

The dollar circulated 36 to 1000 times, sometimes taking a year for currency to leave the community. Now in 1995, a dollar leaves the Black community in 15 minutes. As far as resources, there were Ph.D's residing in Little Africa, Black attorneys and doctors. One doctor was Dr. Berry who also owned the bus system. His average income was $500 a day, a hefty pocket of change in 1910. During that era, physicians owned medical schools. There were also pawn shops everywhere, brothels, jewelry stores, 21 churches, 21 restaurants and two movie theaters. It was a time when the entire state of Oklahoma had only two airports, yet six blacks owned their own planes. It was a very fascinating community. The area encompassed over 600 businesses and 36 square blocks with a population of 15,000 African Americans. And when the lower-economic Europeans looked over and saw what the Black community created, many of them were jealous. When the average student went to school on Black Wallstreet, he wore a suit and tie because of the morals and respect they were taught at a young age.

The mainstay of the community was to educate every child. Nepotism was the one word they believed in. And that's what we need to get back to in 1995. The main thoroughfare was Greenwood Avenue, and it was intersected by Archer and Pine Streets. From the first letters in each of those names, you get G.A.P., and that's where the renowned R&amp;B music group The GAP Band got its name. They're from Tulsa. Black Wallstreet was a prime example of the typical Black community in America that did business, but it was in an unusual location. You see, at the time, Oklahoma was set aside to be a Black and Indian state. There were over 28 Black townships there. One third of the people who traveled in the terrifying &quot;Trail of Tears&quot; along side the Indians between 1830 to 1842 were Black people. The citizens of this proposed Indian and Black state chose a Black governor, a treasurer from Kansas named McDade. But the Ku Klux Klan said that if he assumed office that they would kill him within 48 hours. A lot of Blacks owned farmland, and many of them had gone into the oil business. The community was so tight and wealthy because they traded dollars hand-to-hand, and because they were dependent upon one another as a result of the Jim Crow laws.

It was not unusual that if a resident's home accidentally burned down, it could be rebuilt within a few weeks by neighbors. This was the type of scenario that was going on day-to-day on Black Wallstreet. When Blacks intermarried into the Indian culture, some of them received their promised '40 acres and a Mule,' and with that came whatever oil was later found on the properties.

Just to show you how wealthy a lot of Black people were, there was a banker in a neighboring town who had a wife named California Taylor. Her father owned the largest cotton gin west of the Mississippi [River]. When California shopped, she would take a cruise to Paris every three months to have her clothes made. There was also a man named Mason in nearby Wagner County who had the largest potato farm west of the Mississippi. When he harvested, he would fill 100 boxcars a day. Another brother not far away had the same thing with a spinach farm. The typical family then was five children or more, though the typical farm family would have 10 kids or more who made up the nucleus of the labor.

On Black Wallstreet, a lot of global business was conducted. The community flourished from the early 1900s until June 1, 1921. That's when the largest massacre of non-military Americans in the history of this country took place, and it was lead by the Ku Klux Klan. Imagine walking out of your front door and seeing 1,500 homes being burned. It must have been amazing.

Survivors we interviewed think that the whole thing was planned because during the time that all of this was going on, white families with their children stood around on the borders of the community and watched the massacre, the looting and everything---much in the same manner they would watch a lynching.

In my lectures I ask people if they understand where the word &quot;picnic&quot; comes from. It was typical to have a picnic on a Friday evening in Oklahoma. The word was short for &quot;pick a [censored]&quot; to lynch. They would lynch a Black male and cut off body parts as souvenirs. This went on every weekend in this country. That's where the term really came from. The riots weren't caused by anything Black or white. It was caused by jealousy. A lot of white folks had come back from World War I and they were poor. When they looked over into the Black communities and realized that Black men who fought in the war had come home heroes that helped trigger the destruction. It cost the Black community everything, and not a single dime of restitution---no insurance claims-has been awarded to the victims to this day.

Nonetheless, they rebuilt. We estimate that 1,500 to 3,000 people were killed, and we know that a lot of them were buried in mass graves all around the city. Some were thrown in the river. As a matter of fact, at 21st Street and Yale Avenue, where there now stands a Sears parking lot, that corner used to be a coal mine. They threw a lot of the bodies into the shafts. Black Americans don't know about this story because we don't apply the word holocaust to our struggle. Jewish people use the word holocaust all the time. White people use the word holocaust. It's politically correct to use it. But when we Black folks use the word, people think we're being cry babies or that we're trying to bring up old issues. No one comes to our support. In 1910, our forefathers and mothers owned 13 million acres of land at the height of racism in this country, so the Black Wallstreet book and videotape prove to the naysayers and revisionists that we had our act together. Our mandate now is to begin to teach our children about our own, ongoing Black holocaust. They have to know when they look at our communities today that we don't come from this.

To order a copy of Black Wallstreet, contact:
Duralon Entertainment, Inc.,
P.O. Box 2702, Tulsa, Oklahoma 74149
or call 1-800-682-7975
Black Wallstreet: A lost Dream $21.95
ISBN 1-882465-00-8
Black Wallstreet: A Black Holocaust in America! video $29.95

[X]

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Listen - I trust what you say. You are a black person, just like me. Whatever you say must be in my best interest.
So no worries.

[Andrewnaqi]

Re: ..Ontario Black &quot;Focused&quot; (only) Schools..

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: xKs</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Andrewnaqi</div><div class="ubbcode-body">segregation was a success it was intergration that failed us.

under segreagation we had our own banks, mortgage companies, insurance companies etc.

Under intergration white people said let us do that for you and then all our own institutions began to fall one by one.

Look up black wall street for some real history sometime. </div></div>


Ok
I'll look up black wall street for some real history sometime.
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hope you still &gt;&gt;&gt;

[Andrewnaqi]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: xKs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Listen - I trust what you say. You are a black person, just like me. Whatever you say must be in my best interest.
So no worries.

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would be nice if black people trusted each other more.
As dahjah says we question our own much more than the ones we should really be questioning. Like they've ever had us at their best intrest. Why do we trust white people so much more than our own?