Malcolm X: The House Negro vs The Field Negro (Plus Sellouts

[kia027]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">skells dont figet that the &quot;field&quot; ones were avid equestrians


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oh lawd.. and i guess the better polo players too

[julie*mango]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Skelly</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Next question: What situation would warrant someone to label someone as a house negro in this day and age??? </div></div>On a BB?
To win a contest of strength that originates solely in their addled mind.
Similar to labeling a respondent a homo, homo-lover or any epithet <span style="font-style: italic">(insert interesting ones here)</span> if the poster question mass blame and disinformation.
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not necessarily on a BB..I am speaking in general terms...

for example: I can look on someone like Michael Steele and call him an Uncle Tom without thinking twice, but to call someone a house negro to me seems a little off.

What made a house negro better than a field negro? They were both under the control of the same Massa. I think house negros were envied by the field negros and as is such, a deep seated resentment was born... which seems to continue to this very day...

[CeaBee]

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some of the house negroes i believe were massa's offspring...and the house work one would think would be easier than working in the hot sun day after day with the overseer's whip on u back.

look at the other thread regarding house negroes. it is said that they identified more strongly with massa than the field negroes did, sometimes to their own detriment..thus the house negro label would be as strong a put down as the &quot;uncle tom&quot; label.

[mountaingal]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ceabee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">some of the house negroes i believe were massa's offspring...and the house work one would think would be easier than working in the hot sun day after day with the overseer's whip on u back.

look at the other thread regarding house negroes. it is said that they identified more strongly with massa than the field negroes did, sometimes to their own detriment..thus the field negro label would be a strong a put down as the &quot;uncle tom&quot; label. </div></div>

then again, wahalla asserts that more rebellions were led by house negroes. so the common definition put forward by Malcolm X is apparently offbase.

[julie*mango]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ceabee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">some of the house negroes i believe were massa's offspring...and the house work one would think would be easier than working in the hot sun day after day with the overseer's whip on u back.</div></div>

yes but that is no fault of their own that they were the offspring of their owners...and naturally when they work within the personal space of the Massa then one would imagine that they had the ear of their owners....and also they know the inclinations of the owners better than the field slave so they were more likely to fall in line out of fear or rebel ...

[julie*mango]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ceabee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">some of the house negroes i believe were massa's offspring...and the house work one would think would be easier than working in the hot sun day after day with the overseer's whip on u back.

look at the other thread regarding house negroes. it is said that they identified more strongly with massa than the field negroes did, sometimes to their own detriment..thus the field negro label would be a strong a put down as the &quot;uncle tom&quot; label. </div></div>

then again, wahalla asserts that more rebellions were led by house negroes. so the common definition put forward by Malcolm X is apparently offbase.

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[rufian]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ceabee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">some of the house negroes i believe were massa's offspring...and the house work one would think would be easier than working in the hot sun day after day with the overseer's whip on u back.

look at the other thread regarding house negroes. it is said that they identified more strongly with massa than the field negroes did, sometimes to their own detriment..thus the field negro label would be a strong a put down as the &quot;uncle tom&quot; label. </div></div>

then again, wahalla asserts that more rebellions were led by house negroes. so the common definition put forward by Malcolm X is apparently offbase.

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Bun all dem Malcom X books, T-Shirts, Posters immediately.
De man a fraud

[mountaingal]

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skelly, since wahalla told someone so smartly to DYOR, i decided to do that

from this link i learned that the three major revolts among american slaves were led by slaves who were educated and considered among the &quot;upper class&quot; of slaves. the rebellions were put down, but they struck fear into the hearts of slave owners.

now, i suppose one could quibble that these individuals were not really &quot;house&quot; slaves - cooks, waiters them kind of house duties is maybe what malcolm x was thinking of. but the rebellion leaders were definitely not field slaves.

[CeaBee]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ceabee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">some of the house negroes i believe were massa's offspring...and the house work one would think would be easier than working in the hot sun day after day with the overseer's whip on u back.

look at the other thread regarding house negroes. it is said that they identified more strongly with massa than the field negroes did, sometimes to their own detriment..thus the field negro label would be a strong a put down as the &quot;uncle tom&quot; label. </div></div>

then again, wahalla asserts that <span style="font-weight: bold">more rebellions were led by house negroes</span>. so the common definition put forward by Malcolm X is apparently offbase.



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interesting, i didn't know this. wonder where the negative meaning come from

ok MG DHOR ...thanks MG



<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Denmark Vesey, like so many other African-American leaders of the nineteenth century, came from the &quot;upper class&quot; of slaves: the engineers and craftspeople who were given a high degree of independence and self-actualization, as opposed to field workers or house slaves. He purchased his own freedom and settled down as a carpenter in Charleseton, South Carolina.
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[mountaingal]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ceabee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">some of the house negroes i believe were massa's offspring...and the house work one would think would be easier than working in the hot sun day after day with the overseer's whip on u back.

look at the other thread regarding house negroes. it is said that they identified more strongly with massa than the field negroes did, sometimes to their own detriment..thus the field negro label would be a strong a put down as the &quot;uncle tom&quot; label. </div></div>

then again, wahalla asserts that more rebellions were led by house negroes. so the common definition put forward by Malcolm X is apparently offbase.

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Bun all dem Malcom X books, T-Shirts, Posters immediately.
De man a fraud </div></div>

hold on there now! malcolm x was a rhetorician, that's the worst of his faults. i love malcolm and always will.

[rufian]

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So why dont we exchange monikers?
you have been caught in one of me specials

[mountaingal]

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lol! i could never be as good a sukuna as you.

[Tropicana]

Re: Malcolm X: The House Negro vs The Field Negro (Plus Sellouts

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">Malcolm X was wrong on this is issue..historically and by any Hegilian analysis of Carribean History</span> </div></div>

First of all, even though Malcolm's mother was from the Caribbean, he was speaking about the dynamics of slavery in America. There were some similarities and some differences. Wahalla are you saying the the house slave in the Caribbean played a different role from the house slave in the USA? Just curious. Same story with the Free Blacks in the Caribbean vs the Free Blacks in the USA? Did they play diiferent roles in terms of supporting vs. fighting against the status quo. I have never delved into this and it would be an interesting discussion.

[Blackstar*]

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Off-topic:

Many slaves captured and brought to the Americas were originally cavalry captured in various wars in W. Africa. So the notion that horsemanship is not relevant to the African/African-Caribbean/African-American experience is a false one. As a matter of fact, one of the reasons Haiti's uprising was successful was due to the superior horse-riding skills of the freedom-fighters starting with Toussaint Louverture himself.

Apologies for the interruption; back to house vs. field negro...

[rufian]

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Not an off topic at all

I reject the assertions I see and wonder why people are biting