Derek !

**Hugo** · 04-22-2009, 01:50 PM

Re: Derek !

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Marilyn</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Magix_di_PM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Look at Laura Bush. She look like she have a mechanical arm. </div></div>

She hasn't used it for anything in a while. </div></div>

are you sure Marilyn?

**Derek** · 04-22-2009, 01:53 PM

Re: Derek !

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: yaadie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I dont believe this crap...is like obeah </div></div>

It doesn't matter if you don't believe in it. What matters is, they believe in it.

**Amberal37** · 04-22-2009, 02:09 PM

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I must say that I find this thread subject entirely negative.

For me, the critical questions are:-
1.Why must he be part of some "illuminati" conspiracy to succeed as president? Most of you obviously think that he must be.
While I have no doubt that his status expose and gives him access to many "exclusive" fellowships, as many with status and money would be, does it not mean a wider knowledge base?
If you thing that this so-called "illuminati" means he will not be effectual, why vote, and why participate in society to try to better yourselves?

2.Should or does it matter?

3. Overall does his presidency mean an advancement or setback for black people the world over?

4. How does his overall political actions benefit the masses that he represents?

Praying for the man and his family everyday, but it would seem that it is the grassroots that he springs from, that might bring about his downfall...not the ones that we might see should be his "obvious" enemies.

Sorry to say, but this sort of negativity is <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">Typical </span></span>of so-called "positive-thinking" blacks!!!

**Derek** · 04-22-2009, 02:21 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: amberal37</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I must say that I find this thread subject entirely negative.

For me, the critical questions are:-
1.Why must he be part of some "illuminati" conspiracy to succeed as president? Most of you obviously think that he must be.
While I have no doubt that his status expose and gives him access to many "exclusive" fellowships, as many with status and money would be, does it not mean a wider knowledge base?
If you thing that this so-called "illuminati" means he will not be effectual, why vote, and why participate in society to try to better yourselves?

2.Should or does it matter?

3. Overall does his presidency mean an advancement or setback for black people the world over?

4. How does his overall political actions benefit the masses that he represents?

Praying for the man and his family everyday, but it would seem that it is the grassroots that he springs from, that might bring about his downfall...not the ones that we might see should be his "obvious" enemies.

Sorry to say, but this sort of negativity is <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">Typical </span></span>of so-called "positive-thinking" blacks!!!

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What's so negative about a president being a member of Scull & Bones, The Shriners or any other fraternity? I can't think of one who wasn't.
And I don't see the negative/positive connection with my skin colour either.

**Amberal37** · 04-22-2009, 02:36 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's so negative about a president being a member of Scull & Bones, The Shriners or any other fraternity? I can't think of one who wasn't.
And I don't see the negative/positive connection with my skin colour either.</div></div>

I believe the premise of the iluminatti theory lies behind the fact that most associate it with conspiracy theories...following this, a conclusion that most would come to is that he was "placed" there through other means, and not through any effort of his own. Although I hear that his intellect is reputed to be quite remarkable.

(Also bear in mind that I have no doubt that he would have been subject to a stringent vetting process, as anyone getting to that process would be)

The association with black - is based on the nature of the forum, and my experience of interacting in similar forums both on the net and in "real" world, I am not going to apologise for the association or comment, but it i'm always open to anyone who can open my eyes to new or alternative opinions.

**Derek** · 04-22-2009, 02:40 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: amberal37</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's so negative about a president being a member of Scull & Bones, The Shriners or any other fraternity? I can't think of one who wasn't.
And I don't see the negative/positive connection with my skin colour either.</div></div>

I believe the premise of the iluminatti theory lies behind the fact that most associate it with conspiracy theories...following this, a conclusion that most would come to is that he was "placed" there through other means, and not through any effort of his own. Although I hear that his intellect is reputed to be quite remarkable.

(Also bear in mind that I have no doubt that he would have been subject to a stringent vetting process, as anyone getting to that process would be)

The association with black - is based on the nature of the forum, and my experience of interacting in similar forums both on the net and in "real" world, I am not going to apologise for the association or comment, but it i'm always open to anyone who can open my eyes to new or alternative opinions.

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I'm not doubting his intellect or effort. But presidents are selected before being elected.

**remob1** · 04-22-2009, 02:44 PM

Re: Derek !

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: yaadie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I dont believe this crap...is like obeah </div></div>

It doesn't matter if you don't believe in it. What matters is, they believe in it. </div></div>

How do you know that they believe in it?...are you one of them?

**Derek** · 04-22-2009, 02:58 PM

Re: Derek !

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: yaadie</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: yaadie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I dont believe this crap...is like obeah </div></div>

It doesn't matter if you don't believe in it. What matters is, they believe in it. </div></div>

How do you know that they believe in it?...are you one of them? </div></div>

They keep signalling each other - maybe they do believe in it.

**Magician** · 04-22-2009, 03:32 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: amberal37</div><div class="ubbcode-body">would have been subject to a <span style="font-weight: bold">stringent vetting process</span></div></div>

Well mi nuh go comment on the illuminati but being a member of a lodge is in a way a vetting process. That's why they were set up in the first place. To sift the riffraff from vetted people. So it should not be surprising if all the high ranking politicians are a member of an organisation of one sort or another. Whether its a Masonic lodge or something similar.

Once you in such an oraganisation, it is natural that if you are hiring people, or selecting them for an important positong that you look to people in your own group because they can be trusted to perform to standards.

Having said that, I'm convinced Sarah Palin is not a member of any reputable group, an the sign she displays is due to a twitching pinky.

**jah_yout** · 04-22-2009, 03:49 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: yaadie</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Originally posted by yaadie

I dont believe this crap...is like obeah </div></div>

It doesn't matter if you don't believe in it. What matters is, they believe in it. </div></div>

How do you know that they believe in it?...are you one of them? </div></div>

They keep signalling each other - maybe they do believe in it.

i gotta admit the hand signal thing is very creepy;

is rihanna down?

**Hugo** · 04-22-2009, 03:51 PM

Re: Derek !

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Magix_di_PM</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: amberal37</div><div class="ubbcode-body">would have been subject to a <span style="font-weight: bold">stringent vetting process</span></div></div>

Well mi nuh go comment on the illuminati but being a member of a lodge is in a way a vetting process. That's why they were set up in the first place. To sift the riffraff from vetted people. So it should not be surprising if all the high ranking politicians are a member of an organisation of one sort or another. Whether its a Masonic lodge or something similar.

Once you in such an oraganisation, it is natural that if you are hiring people, or selecting them for an important positong that you look to people in your own group because they can be trusted to perform to standards.

Having said that, I'm convinced Sarah Palin is not a member of any reputable group, an the sign she displays is due to a twitching pinky. </div></div>

Masonic, yeah that's me.

**RichD** · 04-22-2009, 03:51 PM

Re: Derek !

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

i gotta admit the hand signal thing is very creepy;

is rihanna down?

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how yuh think she so sucessful?..yuh really think she such a good singer?

**remo** · 05-01-2009, 05:32 PM

Re: Derek !

Wow...just saw this...All those pictures have been photo shopped.obviously fakes.......

**foolya** · 05-01-2009, 07:25 PM

Re: Derek !

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Someone told me that president obama is a part of the iluminati,..is this right...? </div></div>

y would u need some to tell u that? i though the blacks on here were well inform with the veil off eyes.

4 those who still wearing the viel i beg u checkout these ya links.

http://bumblebeewings.multiply.com/journal/item/490

http://www.awakethemasses.net/media/WalterVeith/totalonslaught.html

http://www.rememberthe4th.com/video_totalonslaught.html