Non-Black Jamaicans in their Own Words

**gourmet** · 03-30-2009, 01:08 PM

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Tanya got it.

**Dr.Dudd** · 03-30-2009, 01:08 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gourmet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well since Jamaica has been basically "ethnically cleansed" by scaring most of the Chinese and white Jamaicans out, is it surprising that Jamaica is seen as a all-black country? </div></div>

if you ask me it's the blacks who have been scared out of the country </div></div><span style="font-size: 11pt"> That is the source of foreigners getting the belief that all Jamaicans are black.
Since the only Jamaicans they meed are usually black ones.
they simply assume that they must be all black. since the ones who seem to be migrating are black. </span>

**RichD** · 03-30-2009, 01:08 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gourmet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well since Jamaica has been basically "ethnically cleansed" by scaring most of the Chinese and white Jamaicans out, is it surprising that Jamaica is seen as a all-black country? </div></div> where yuh heard this? </div></div>I think he is refering to the whole 5 flights a day ting </div></div>

yuh mean from 30 years ago?

**RichD** · 03-30-2009, 01:09 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gourmet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tanya got it. </div></div> you forgot that many of the ones who ran in the mod 70's returned in the 80's

**Dr.Dudd** · 03-30-2009, 01:11 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gourmet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well since Jamaica has been basically "ethnically cleansed" by scaring most of the Chinese and white Jamaicans out, is it surprising that Jamaica is seen as a all-black country? </div></div> where yuh heard this? </div></div>I think he is refering to the whole 5 flights a day ting </div></div> I think 5 flights left, but 10mflights came,
...and it was not blacks that returned.

**diabolical_Tanya** · 03-30-2009, 01:12 PM

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bwoy if yu follow Dr Dudd's reasoning black Jamaicans really wutliss

**mountaingal** · 03-30-2009, 01:19 PM

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i figured that it was the 5 flights a day thing, but the "ethnically cleansed" terminology i found a bit hyperbolic. first, nobody was forced at gunpoint to board any of those flights. second, a nuff white and chinese ppl deh a jamaica today. and i don't mean expats.

**Dr.Dudd** · 03-30-2009, 01:29 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">bwoy if yu follow Dr Dudd's reasoning black Jamaicans really wutliss </div></div><span style="font-size: 11pt"> Would you still considered them wotless, if you knew that since slavery and even until 1968, they couldnt hold certain jifs. borrowmoney from banks hold trading licnesed, become solicitors, who had the exclisive right to do real estate and civil laws? What about the highs chools that they couldn't,(but a few attend to get an education?
what about getting theoir rights in the courts of law> this was all because they were legally prevented from own9ing firearms. before indeoendence, noo black could hold a police officers post. that us the posy of asst dup yo. They couldnt be a member of the military other than the military band ( that had to use DUPPY GATE),and had no quarters.
the Real camP that they use now was exclusively for white military that was always revolve. You would still say they were really wutliss ??

Not o oention that at independence half couldn't read.
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**Tuff Gong** · 03-30-2009, 01:35 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gourmet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well since Jamaica has been basically "ethnically cleansed" by scaring most of the Chinese and white Jamaicans out, is it surprising that Jamaica is seen as a all-black country? </div></div>Exactly!
In fact Jamaican Members of this Board have described it as a Black Country.
I don't where this Black and White Jamaica comes from because the Constitution say that we are all Jamaicans and our Motto says that Out Of Many One People.

**Tuff Gong** · 03-30-2009, 01:36 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">bwoy if yu follow Dr Dudd's reasoning black Jamaicans really wutliss </div></div>

<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Social Darwinism</span>!

**diabolical_Tanya** · 03-30-2009, 01:39 PM

Re: Non-Black Jamaicans in their Own Words

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">bwoy if yu follow Dr Dudd's reasoning black Jamaicans really wutliss </div></div><span style="font-size: 11pt"> Would you still considered them wotless, if you knew that since slavery and even until 1968, they couldnt hold certain jifs. borrowmoney from banks hold trading licnesed, become solicitors, who had the exclisive right to do real estate and civil laws? What about the highs chools that they couldn't,(but a few attend to get an education?
what about getting theoir rights in the courts of law> this was all because they were legally prevented from own9ing firearms. before indeoendence, noo black could hold a police officers post. that us the posy of asst dup yo. They couldnt be a member of the military other than the military band ( that had to use DUPPY GATE),and had no quarters.
the Real camP that they use now was exclusively for white military that was always revolve. You would still say they were really wutliss ??

Not o oention that at independence half couldn't read.
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Come again in English an yu mean since independence till all now dem juss siddung soh an naw do nuttin? juss a bawl bout how di white man oppress dem real wutliss

**Tuff Gong** · 03-30-2009, 01:40 PM

Re: Non-Black Jamaicans in their Own Words

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Originally posted by gourmet

Well since Jamaica has been basically "ethnically cleansed" by scaring most of the Chinese and white Jamaicans out, is it surprising that Jamaica is seen as a all-black country? </div></div> where yuh heard this? </div></div>I think he is refering to the whole 5 flights a day ting </div></div>

yuh mean from 30 years ago?

...until 2008 when there were all kinds a campaign at home and abroad which sought to blame White/Chinese/Indian Jamaicans for all kinds of misdeeds including the original sin of the Trans Atlantic Slave trade.

Black Man Time Now was in 2000 that was less than 30 years ago. Thirty years ago was not only about a benign argument about five flights per day, it was also a campaign of violence and intimation against other ethnic minorities.

**Dr.Dudd** · 03-30-2009, 01:48 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">bwoy if yu follow Dr Dudd's reasoning black Jamaicans really wutliss </div></div><span style="font-size: 11pt"> Would you still considered them wotless, if you knew that since slavery and even until 1968, they couldnt hold certain jifs. borrowmoney from banks hold trading licnesed, become solicitors, who had the exclisive right to do real estate and civil laws? What about the highs chools that they couldn't,(but a few attend to get an education?
what about getting theoir rights in the courts of law> this was all because they were legally prevented from own9ing firearms. before indeoendence, noo black could hold a police officers post. that us the posy of asst dup yo. They couldnt be a member of the military other than the military band ( that had to use DUPPY GATE),and had no quarters.
the Real camP that they use now was exclusively for white military that was always revolve. You would still say they were really wutliss ??

Not o oention that at independence half couldn't read.
</span> </div></div>

Come again in English an yu mean since independence till all now dem juss siddung soh an naw do nuttin? juss a bawl bout how di white man oppress dem real wutliss </div></div>It takes much linger for people to realize what is happenning.
Right now many of you still do not know what is happennong. most still do not realize that inless they are allowed equal access to legal fire arms, they actually have no power.
since those with the arms have the power. they are not wortliss.
they are sumply inadequately unformed as to the mechanics of self rule.and independence. That is not really long. Look how long it took black Americans to fight for some of their rights.

and they still have not gotten all yet.

**diabolical_Tanya** · 03-30-2009, 01:52 PM

Re: Non-Black Jamaicans in their Own Words

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Originally posted by Diabolical_Tanya

bwoy if yu follow Dr Dudd's reasoning black Jamaicans really wutliss </div></div><span style="font-size: 11pt"> Would you still considered them wotless, if you knew that since slavery and even until 1968, they couldnt hold certain jifs. borrowmoney from banks hold trading licnesed, become solicitors, who had the exclisive right to do real estate and civil laws? What about the highs chools that they couldn't,(but a few attend to get an education?
what about getting theoir rights in the courts of law> this was all because they were legally prevented from own9ing firearms. before indeoendence, noo black could hold a police officers post. that us the posy of asst dup yo. They couldnt be a member of the military other than the military band ( that had to use DUPPY GATE),and had no quarters.
the Real camP that they use now was exclusively for white military that was always revolve. You would still say they were really wutliss ??

Not o oention that at independence half couldn't read.
</span> </div></div>

Come again in English an yu mean since independence till all now dem juss siddung soh an naw do nuttin? juss a bawl bout how di white man oppress dem real wutliss </div></div><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">It takes much linger for people to realize what is happenning.
Right now many of you still do not know what is happennong. most still do not realize that inless they are allowed equal access to legal fire arms, they actually have no power.
since those with the arms have the power. they are not wortliss.
they are sumply inadequately unformed as to the mechanics of self rule.and independence. That is not really long. Look how long it took black Americans to fight for some of their rights.

and they still have not gotten all yet. </div></div></span>

so yu a seh legal fire-arms would have allowed blacks to get loans an become lawyers prior to 1968 interesting indeed

**Tuff Gong** · 03-30-2009, 01:57 PM

Re: Non-Black Jamaicans in their Own Words

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gourmet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tanya got it. </div></div> you forgot that many of the ones who ran in the mod 70's returned in the 80's </div></div>....and were again destoyed by the PNP in the 90s!

Non-Black Jamaicans in their Own Words

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