Bad Mind & Crabs in a Barrel: 2 Reasons we can't Prosper

**Fyah** · 05-30-2009, 09:32 AM

Re: Bad Mind & Crabs in a Barrel: 2 Reasons we can't Prosper

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

I was watching a programme about an Indian film producer and he used the analogy of when one crab tries to climb out of the pot, the other crabs (Indians) drag it back down.

It's not only black people who are red eye amongst each other. </div></div>

Fair enough Derek, but don't you think that although it might plague other groups of people, it is a topic that should and could be discussed among CONSCIOUS black people?

How could we expect to do better as a people, and rise above the average, if we can't even discuss our issues as a people, without accepting that they are the same as other people's, therefore, we should be contented? I think that as long as we have the ability and the opportunity we should strive to be the best that we can - with the goal to improve at all cost.

Why stop at trying to be like others when we can be better?

My 2nd grade teacher in Jamaica taught me this and I taught it to my children:

<span style="font-weight: bold">Good, Better, Best
Never let it rest,
Until you've made the good, better
And the better, best</span>.

**Peasie** · 05-30-2009, 09:50 AM

Re: Bad Mind & Crabs in a Barrel: 2 Reasons we can't Prosper

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SPOTS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My 2nd grade teacher in Jamaica taught me this and I taught it to my children:

<span style="font-weight: bold">Good, Better, Best
Never let it rest,
Until you've made the good, better
And the better, best</span>. </div></div>

Yeah, I heard this too, and IMHO it is a big lie.
When will your best be good enough? What if your best is someone else's ok? Who determines what is your best?
If one follows this little ditty, one becomes a perfectionist with OCD and phobia issues.
wait deh... dat explain why some boardites ...

**Dr.Dudd** · 05-30-2009, 09:57 AM

Re: Bad Mind & Crabs in a Barrel: 2 Reasons we can't Prosper

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gungo Peas</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SPOTS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My 2nd grade teacher in Jamaica taught me this and I taught it to my children:

<span style="font-weight: bold">Good, Better, Best
Never let it rest,
Until you've made the good, better
And the better, best</span>. </div></div>

Yeah, I heard this too, and IMHO it is a big lie.
When will your best be good enough? What if your best is someone else's ok? Who determines what is your best?
If one follows this little ditty, one becomes a perfectionist with OCD and phobia issues.
wait deh... dat explain why some boardites ...

</div></div>I look to existing records as my standard of 'best'. Yes I neve rcompete withpeople,. i comoete against records. the first thing I try to do is find what is the rcord achieved atdoing what I am doing. Then I quietly start working at besting it. Duringthis time fending off a lot of discouragers. defending against statements like"you are doing good enough" ect.

**Dr.Dudd** · 05-30-2009, 09:59 AM

Re: Bad Mind & Crabs in a Barrel: 2 Reasons we can't Prosper

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SPOTS</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Seveen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
my path is understanding, caring, letting people in - not the constant - it happened 'cause i'm black

when i look at people - i see people and i deal with people - you can collect racism like dust or lint if that's what you look for - pick link off your clothes - find a little dirt on your floor,

if i feel personally threatened in my home - i will react - but nope i don't walk out my door each day - feeling like i have to walk the line - or my SKILLS

ONE LOVE! </div></div>

I have a feeling that you did not even bother to read the thread. Just jumping in and brain-dumping as always using diatribe based on stereotypical and historical disdain for the topic starter.

Your words make you sound a bit crazy, and dilusional.

<span style="font-weight: bold">By the way, this is not meant to be an attack, so PLEASE do not go and PM your POSSE Defenders to log in and curse me out.</span> </div></div> <span style="font-size: 11pt"> You know about the posse too eh?/
it is a runniong joke around here.
pity they don't realize that more of us are hip to it.
I suppose it is as american as as appl;e pie.</span>

**Fyah** · 05-30-2009, 10:03 AM

Re: Bad Mind & Crabs in a Barrel: 2 Reasons we can't Prosper

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gungo Peas</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SPOTS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My 2nd grade teacher in Jamaica taught me this and I taught it to my children:

<span style="font-weight: bold">Good, Better, Best
Never let it rest,
Until you've made the good, better
And the better, best</span>. </div></div>

Yeah, I heard this too, and IMHO it is a big lie.
When will your best be good enough? What if your best is someone else's ok? Who determines what is your best?
If one follows this little ditty, one becomes a perfectionist with OCD and phobia issues.
wait deh... dat explain why some boardites ...

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<span style="font-weight: bold">Best</span> is subjective. It is YOUR best that counts and YOU decide. If everyone would "raise the bar" and strive for their best, we would not need all the "special services" and "help centers" that plague our communities...not to mention the decadence.

**Fyah** · 05-30-2009, 10:09 AM

Re: Bad Mind & Crabs in a Barrel: 2 Reasons we can't Prosper

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SPOTS</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Seveen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
my path is understanding, caring, letting people in - not the constant - it happened 'cause i'm black

when i look at people - i see people and i deal with people - you can collect racism like dust or lint if that's what you look for - pick link off your clothes - find a little dirt on your floor,

if i feel personally threatened in my home - i will react - but nope i don't walk out my door each day - feeling like i have to walk the line - or my SKILLS

ONE LOVE! </div></div>

I have a feeling that you did not even bother to read the thread. Just jumping in and brain-dumping as always using diatribe based on stereotypical and historical disdain for the topic starter.

Your words make you sound a bit crazy, and dilusional.

<span style="font-weight: bold">By the way, this is not meant to be an attack, so PLEASE do not go and PM your POSSE Defenders to log in and curse me out.</span> </div></div> <span style="font-size: 11pt"> You know about the posse too eh?/
it is a runniong joke around here.
pity they don't realize that more of us are hip to it.
I suppose it is as american as as appl;e pie.</span> </div></div>

Little do they ALL know. LOL!

**Tropicana** · 05-30-2009, 10:09 AM

Re: Bad Mind & Crabs in a Barrel: 2 Reasons we can't Prosper

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was watching a programme about an Indian film producer and he used the analogy of when one crab tries to climb out of the pot, the other crabs (Indians) drag it back down.

It's not only black people who are red eye amongst each other. </div></div>

So does that JUSTIFY this kind of behaviour? I am sick and tired of people who try to justify negative behavioiur and attitudes by playing the "we're not the only people who do that" card. Sorry that just ain't going to fly with me.

**Tropicana** · 05-30-2009, 10:11 AM

Re: Bad Mind & Crabs in a Barrel: 2 Reasons we can't Prosper

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SPOTS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

I have a feeling that you did not even bother to read the thread. Just jumping in and brain-dumping as always using diatribe based on stereotypical and historical disdain for the topic starter.

Your words make you sound a bit crazy, and dilusional.

<span style="font-weight: bold">By the way, this is not meant to be an attack, so PLEASE do not go and PM your POSSE Defenders to log in and curse me out.</span> </div></div>

**Tropicana** · 05-30-2009, 10:15 AM

Re: Bad Mind & Crabs in a Barrel: 2 Reasons we can't Prosper

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">.... don't you think that although it might plague other groups of people, it is a topic that should and could be discussed among CONSCIOUS black people?

How could we expect to do better as a people, and rise above the average, if we can't even discuss our issues as a people, without accepting that they are the same as other people's, therefore, we should be contented? I think that as long as we have the ability and the opportunity we should strive to be the best that we can - with the goal to improve at all cost.

Why stop at trying to be like others when we can be better? </div></div>

**tsophra** · 05-30-2009, 10:58 AM

Re: Bad Mind & Crabs in a Barrel: 2 Reasons we can't Prosper

so "we're" to partake of, delight in and crave all the constructs of the world we live in..then by some superhuman effort "as a people" rise above the results.."to be in the world but not of it"...to me that is not realistic.

**KgnJa69** · 05-30-2009, 11:22 AM

Re: Bad Mind & Crabs in a Barrel: 2 Reasons we can't Prosper

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">my ? is how come so many who recognise the validity of the behaviour, carry it awn wid such gusto?

</div></div>
A boardite of few words, that always zing it right in the center

<span style="font-style: italic">maybe you should change you name to "bullseye" or "zzzinger" </span>

Blackstar* · 05-30-2009, 01:51 PM

Re: Bad Mind & Crabs in a Barrel: 2 Reasons we can't Prosper

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SPOTS</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Seveen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">my path is understanding, caring, letting people in - not the constant - it happened 'cause i'm black

when i look at people - i see people and i deal with people - you can collect racism like dust or lint if that's what you look for - pick link off your clothes - find a little dirt on your floor,

if i feel personally threatened in my home - i will react - but nope i don't walk out my door each day - feeling like i have to walk the line - or my SKILLS

ONE LOVE! </div></div>
<span style="font-size: 11pt"><span style="font-style: italic">I have a feeling that you did not even bother to read the thread. Just jumping in and brain-dumping as always using diatribe based on stereotypical and historical disdain for the topic starter.

Your words make you sound a bit crazy, and dilusional. </span></span> </div></div>
Couldn't have said it better!

**mountaingal** · 05-31-2009, 10:26 AM

Re: Bad Mind & Crabs in a Barrel: 2 Reasons we can't Prosper

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jaded</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so "we're" to partake of, delight in and crave all the constructs of the world we live in..then by some superhuman effort "as a people" rise above the results.."to be in the world but not of it"...to me that is not realistic. </div></div>

and then we cuss each other because we cannot overcome our human failings in the name of our race.

**j-kid** · 05-31-2009, 10:36 AM

Re: Bad Mind & Crabs in a Barrel: 2 Reasons we can't Prosper

Dis caa bi directed at Jamaicans collectively, as a group?

As far as mi know wi soooo proud wen ah Jacan, or of Jacan, descent mek ie big, wi duh nutten bout bragg bout ie.

**Tropicana** · 06-03-2009, 03:45 AM

Re: Bad Mind & Crabs in a Barrel: 2 Reasons we can't Prosper

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: J kid</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dis caa bi directed at Jamaicans collectively, as a group?

As far as mi know wi soooo proud wen ah Jacan, or of Jacan, descent mek ie big, wi duh nutten bout bragg bout ie. </div></div>

I WAS under that impression too.

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