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[blugiant]

CaribPRWire, NEW YORK, NY, Fri. June 12, 2009: CaribID, the movement to get Caribbean nationals accurately counted and their own category on the U.S. Census form, has kicked off its own multi-media PSA campaign to encourage Caribbean Americans to participate in the 2010 Census.

The radio commercials began running on several Caribbean programs across the U.S. last Friday, including on Caribbean Riddims in South Florida and CaribVoice Radio and on the entire Caribbean World News Network syndicates in nine states across over two dozen programs.

This weekend, Stephen Hill, CEO of CIN TV, will roll out the CaribID television commercial, the first in a series, across his New York network that reaches millions weekly. Caribbean TV programmers in Atlanta and Connecticut will follow suit.

The CaribID banner ad is already receiving play on a number of websites including South Florida Caribbean News, Toronto Lime, Caribbean Images, Tropical Fete and Caribbean Internet Network as well as on CaribWorldNews.

The CaribID messages and promos continue to be widely viewed and shared across the web from Youtube to other social networking platforms.

The CaribID message is simple: it urges all Caribbean nationals to fill out the 2010 Census form and write in their country of origin under Question 8 while ticking, `No Not Hispanic.`

CaribID founder, Felicia Persaud, who has been on a media blitz of interviews recently and whose message was also quoted in the Washington Post on Thursday, June 11, thanked the many Caribbean media entities who are stepping up to partner in the movement and help share the message by offering time and space to the tune of thousands of dollars.

Meanwhile, several events and organizations are also sharing the word to their large groups. On June 18th, the Caribbean American Business Association of New Jersey will host Persaud and CaribID while Reggae on the River and the D.C. Caribbean Carnival are also partnering in the effort to spread the word.

In Philadelphia, on June 23rd, CaridID will co-host a Census briefing with officials of the Philadelphia Regional Census Office and the Mayor`s Commission on African and Caribbean Immigrant Affairs and Councilman Jannie Blackwell.

CaribID D.C. coordinator, Ann Walters, urged other event promoters, media programmers, organization heads and the diplomatic corps to get involved in the effort and quit sitting on the sidelines.

`The diplomats especially who represent the Diaspora, from the many consuls to the ambassadors in D.C., , must use their power as well to share this message at all levels since at the end of the day, a growth in power of the Caribbean Diaspora means more recognition for the Caribbean region,` said Walters.

She also pushed all congressional lawmakers, who express their concern for the Caribbean and all themselves friends of the community, to use this Caribbean Heritage Month to sign on as co-sponsors to the recently introduced bills in the U.S. House of Representatives and the Senate.

The legislative process to obtain a Caribbean ancestry category on the form gained momentum on April 23rd with the historic introduction by Congresswoman Yvette Clarke of the Caribbean
Count bill. On May 20th, New York Senators Charles Schumer and Kristin Gillibrand answered Carib ID`s call and introduced the companion bill.

The Senate bill, like the House bill, states that in conducting the 2010 decennial census and every decennial census thereafter, the Secretary of Commerce shall include, in any questionnaire distributed or otherwise used for the purpose of determining the total population by states, a checkbox or other similar option by which respondents may indicate Caribbean extraction or descent.

[blugiant]

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y iss dat nan-blakk caribbean peeps ar pushinn soo aard fii peeps fram de caribbean fii nat fe check black?

[kia027]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
y iss dat nan-blakk caribbean peeps ar pushinn soo aard fii peeps fram de caribbean fii nat fe check black? </div></div>

i am confused by your comment because they all look black to me

[Dr.Dudd]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
y iss dat nan-blakk caribbean peeps ar pushinn soo aard fii peeps fram de caribbean fii nat fe check black? </div></div>

i am confused by your comment because they all look black to me </div></div>They want to be given a seperate categary,from black.
then as soon as that happens, then some wil want to be furthere as Light' coloured caribs and dark coloured caribs.
it is all about theus an them syndrome.

[RcOmK]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
y iss dat nan-blakk caribbean peeps ar pushinn soo aard fii peeps fram de caribbean fii nat fe check black? </div></div>

i am confused by your comment because they all look black to me </div></div>They want to be given a seperate categary,from black.
then as soon as that happens, then some wil want to be furthere as Light' coloured caribs and dark coloured caribs.
it is all about theus an them syndrome. </div></div>

I don't think they would, necessarily, start to distinguish between skin complexion because you can be any race and be Hispanic (ex: there are a ton of &quot;black&quot; Cubans, Dominicans, Panamanians, Costa Ricans, Colombians, Puerto Ricans, etc), but Hispanics all check the same category...

I think it's a GREAT idea to have <span style="color: #660000">CARIBBEAN</span> or <span style="color: #660000">WEST INDIAN</span> as a separate category... I have always just checked OTHER and Wrote in West Indian.

[Panajar]

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Divide and conquer ,i bet it is some of the none black people from the islands who are pushing this garbage.When the cops are profiling ,the first thing they see is that you are black .They don't give a rats @ss if you are classified as black or Caribbean.Some of these ******* come to the USA and realize that
they are not accepted as full Caucasian so now they want to change every thing to help them fit in.Bottom line if you are black then that is what you should check on the forms .

[Dr.Dudd]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Panajar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Divide and conquer ,i bet it is some of the none black people from the islands who are pushing this garbage.When the cops are profiling ,the first thing they see is that you are black .They don't give a rats @ss if you are classified as black or Caribbean.Some of these ******* come to the USA and realize that
they are not accepted as full Caucasian so now they want to change every thing to help them fit in.Bottom line if you are black then that is what you should check on the forms.
</div></div> <span style="font-size: 11pt"> They did the identical thing with the blacks in Chicago before completely destroying the black middle class and then destroyed the economic power of the blacks there.

They divide the early migrant blacks, that were living in the culture longer then the newly arrived southern blacks.
the so called old' blacks were given better opportunities, dues to their new status. this resulted in complete neglect of the new arrivals with the support of the newly elevated blacks.
as time goes by the treatment meted out to the neglected blacks, were extended to the elevated blacks that thought they were exempted from such treatment <span style="font-weight: bold">permanently</span>.
Only It was a temporary move to devide and destroy the middle class blacks,and weaken the whole group.
This has been used for ever as a means of social weakening of a less desterd group. It is a pity too few from these groups even bother to study sociology.
I know they are discouraged by the disparaging description of sociology and it's practitioners. Hey that is also another tool of suppression.
teach the people that the tools of freedom will lead to their destruction if acquired. What is new? Not even the gullibility of people to trust their suppressors are new.
That is how the world works.
the strong will always control the weak.
And the weak will always be the ignorant and the coward.
the cowards are the ones who hav ethe know;edge and fear for their safety prevents them from acting onot. </span>

[kia027]

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I guess like those who are classified hispanic from the non english speaking caribbean, they would see a need to find a category for themselves because while they may fall into another racial group, culturally they are a caribbean 'race' of peoples.

Maybe that is what they are after?

[RcOmK]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Panajar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Divide and conquer ,i bet it is some of the none black people from the islands who are pushing this garbage.When the cops are profiling ,the first thing they see is that you are black .They don't give a rats @ss if you are classified as black or Caribbean.Some of these ******* come to the USA and realize that
they are not accepted as full Caucasian so now they want to change every thing to help them fit in.Bottom line if you are black then that is what you should check on the forms . </div></div>

In the United States, when one says they are BLACK, the majority of the population will consider that African American which by definition refers to U.S. citizens with ancestors who were slaves in the United States. Many African Americans like to group themselves with Afro CARIBBEANS by saying that since the Caribbean is a part of the Americas, that means that an Afro Caribbean is African American , but <span style="color: #660000">nuttn' nuh guh suh</span>.
African Americans have a different culture, different history, and even their way of speaking (known as African American Vernacular English/Ebonics). West Indians have a different LANGUAGE (Jamaican Creole/ West Indian Creole AKA Patois/Patwa), our own genres of music (Reggae, Soca, Calypso, Etc.), our own type of food, history, mix of people, etc.

Furthermore, at one point in history, the West Indian Islands were one country known as the West Indies Federation. Here is that former flag:



So my point is that the umbrella term BLACK, does not respect the very unique differences between African Americans, West Indians, Afro-Latinos, ETC.

[Dr.Dudd]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Iron_Man</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Panajar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Divide and conquer ,i bet it is some of the none black people from the islands who are pushing this garbage.When the cops are profiling ,the first thing they see is that you are black .They don't give a rats @ss if you are classified as black or Caribbean.Some of these ******* come to the USA and realize that
they are not accepted as full Caucasian so now they want to change every thing to help them fit in.Bottom line if you are black then that is what you should check on the forms . </div></div>

In the United States, when one says they are BLACK, the majority of the population will consider that African American which by definition refers to U.S. citizens with ancestors who were slaves in the United States. Many African Americans like to group African Americans and Afro Caribbeans in the same group by saying that since the Caribbean is a part of the Americas, that means that an Afro Caribbean is an African American, but <span style="color: #660000">nuttn' nuh guh suh</span>.
African Americans have a different culture, different history, and even their way of speaking (known as African American Vernacular English/Ebonics). West Indians have a different LANGUAGE (Jamaican Creole/ West Indian Creole AKA Patois/Patwa), our own genres of music (Reggae, Soca, Calypso, Etc.), our own type of food, history, mix of people, etc.

So my point is that the umbrella term BLACK, does not respect the very unique differences between African Americans, West Indians, Afro-Latinos, ETC. </div></div>Where you get that idea, that African American s want to include other Africans as a memebr of their group?
My experienceis the exact opposite. On this here campus we are expecially blamed for getting the most of the scolarships.
The famous black professor that was niminated for civil rights by clintin was at the fore front of opposing our presence on campus.
And that is not limited to the caMpus. and west Indians were never one country. the anglophone west Indians experimented with it for less than 4 years and it simply diod not work the rest of the Westindies was never a part of this experiment.

[RcOmK]

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I got that &quot;idea&quot; from tons of other debates I have heard/been involved in regarding this topic ON and OFF of MY college campus as well.
<span style="color: #660000">
NOTE: </span> I said <span style="color: #660000">MANY</span> African Americans <span style="color: #660000">NOT ALL.</span>

[Panajar]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Iron_Man</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Panajar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Divide and conquer ,i bet it is some of the none black people from the islands who are pushing this garbage.When the cops are profiling ,the first thing they see is that you are black .They don't give a rats @ss if you are classified as black or Caribbean.Some of these ******* come to the USA and realize that
they are not accepted as full Caucasian so now they want to change every thing to help them fit in.Bottom line if you are black then that is what you should check on the forms . </div></div>

In the United States, when one says they are BLACK, the majority of the population will consider that African American which by definition refers to U.S. citizens with ancestors who were slaves in the United States. Many African Americans like to group themselves with Afro CARIBBEANS by saying that since the Caribbean is a part of the Americas, that means that an Afro Caribbean is African American , but <span style="color: #660000">nuttn' nuh guh suh</span>.
African Americans have a different culture, different history, and even their way of speaking (known as African American Vernacular English/Ebonics). West Indians have a different LANGUAGE (Jamaican Creole/ West Indian Creole AKA Patois/Patwa), our own genres of music (Reggae, Soca, Calypso, Etc.), our own type of food, history, mix of people, etc.

Furthermore, at one point in history, the West Indian Islands were one country known as the West Indies Federation. Here is that former flag:



So my point is that the umbrella term BLACK, does not respect the very unique differences between African Americans, West Indians, Afro-Latinos, ETC. </div></div>


First there no such thing as west Indian ,how can a black person of African decent call them self Indian.in the words of the great PETER TOSH no &quot;matta wey u come from as long as you are black you are an African&quot;.&quot;west Indian&quot; another term from the fore slave masters.This is why i respect the jews there is no way that the Jews would try and separate them selves.


When i see this picture i know who is pushing this agenda

[RcOmK]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Panajar</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Iron_Man</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Panajar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Divide and conquer ,i bet it is some of the none black people from the islands who are pushing this garbage.When the cops are profiling ,the first thing they see is that you are black .They don't give a rats @ss if you are classified as black or Caribbean.Some of these ******* come to the USA and realize that
they are not accepted as full Caucasian so now they want to change every thing to help them fit in.Bottom line if you are black then that is what you should check on the forms . </div></div>

In the United States, when one says they are BLACK, the majority of the population will consider that African American which by definition refers to U.S. citizens with ancestors who were slaves in the United States. Many African Americans like to group themselves with Afro CARIBBEANS by saying that since the Caribbean is a part of the Americas, that means that an Afro Caribbean is African American , but <span style="color: #660000">nuttn' nuh guh suh</span>.
African Americans have a different culture, different history, and even their way of speaking (known as African American Vernacular English/Ebonics). West Indians have a different LANGUAGE (Jamaican Creole/ West Indian Creole AKA Patois/Patwa), our own genres of music (Reggae, Soca, Calypso, Etc.), our own type of food, history, mix of people, etc.

Furthermore, at one point in history, the West Indian Islands were one country known as the West Indies Federation. Here is that former flag:



So my point is that the umbrella term BLACK, does not respect the very unique differences between African Americans, West Indians, Afro-Latinos, ETC. </div></div>


First there no such thing as west Indian ,how can a black person of African decent call them self Indian.in the words of the great PETER TOSH no &quot;matta wey u come from as long as you are black you are an African&quot;.&quot;west Indian&quot; another term from the fore slave masters.This is why i respect the jews there is no way that the Jews would try and separate them selves.


When i see this picture i know who is pushing this agenda

</div></div>

LMAO

The region Jamaica is in is the WEST INDIES... Do I REALLY have to explain why it's called that??? If I do, then that's a sad shame...

So, we should just all say we're from Africa? Forget about being from Jamaica, or the WEST INDIES? is that what I should get from your comment? LOL!

Being West Indian is an ethnic group. Look at Jamaicans or Trinis: You can be a Jamaican or Trini who is predominantly of African decent, a Jamaican or Trini who is white , a Jamaican or Trini of East Indian decent, ETC. BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE YOU ARE STILL JAMAICAN OR TRINI.<span style="color: #660000">NUH MATTAH!</span>


One can call themselves Afro-Caribbean, which i think is perfectly fine, but the point is an Afro Caribbean in Jamaica does not have a different culture than an Asian-Caribbean in Jamaica; Dem still chat di raaw patwa, dem still nyam ackee an salfish, etc.

[Panajar]

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Yep backra masa has done a excellent job. His conditioning has succeed more than he could imagine.Like i said you will never hear the Jews separating them selves in to polish Jews, German Jews ,ect.but some black are quick to give up their identify,too bad they cant change their skin color .Yes they eat ackee and salt fish does that make them black? I speak so called English does that make me a english man?
mek a black man try fe marry the chine man daughter and se how
quick the same ethnicity whe u talk bout change.

if de people in the picture dont want fe check black, mek them check Asian white or mix.

[RcOmK]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Panajar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yep backra masa has done a excellent job. His conditioning has succeed more than he could imagine.Like i said you will never hear the Jews separating them selves in to polish Jews, German Jews ,ect.but some black are quick to give up their identify,too bad they cant change their skin color .Yes they eat ackee and salt fish does that make them black? I speak so called English does that make me a english man?
mek a black man try fe marry the chine man daughter and se how
quick the same ethnicity whe u talk bout change.

if de people in the picture dont want fe check black, mek them check Asian white or mix. </div></div>

OMG... LMAO

Bakra massa nuh brainwash me.. truss mi.

first of all it's not about being BLACK! Not all Jamaicans OR WEST INDIANS are Black! DUH!!

It's about recognizing cultural identity and uniqueness.

Furthermore, it's not a slave and master issue; look at black Africans living in Africa and the THOUSANDS of different ethnic groups that they identify with. Each ethnicity has their own language and culture.

Again: <span style="color: #006600">It's not about race, it's about recognizing cultural identity and uniqueness. </span>