Michael Jackson died

**Bink - the Only** · 06-27-2009, 02:23 AM

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

for one more time, Dudd, you do NOT get the point. i am weary of this with you. been doing it for over a decade.

do you, by any chance, remember our "talks" about education in jamaica? remeber how stalwart you were that education was FREE? i countered that it was certainly not free - transportation, food, uniforms, etc. and that many children were "left behind".

anyway, mr dudd ... live a good life.

**jah_yout** · 06-27-2009, 02:28 AM

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: britisha</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=neutral]

Originally posted by jah_yout

it's called class...and some people will never be able to buy it much less have it;</div></div>
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Lol !...but big man,...you cant really take jah yout serious pon de class ting,...what does a wanabee knotty head know bout class. </div></div>

Good summation Tuff Gong...weird isn't it?

Then they haff di nerve to jump in threads and disrespect the topic starter and other posters and gwwan like seh dem know how to read !!!

I agree MJ was eccentric, however because of his vulnerability, a lot of weirdos took pot shots at him in and out of the media...but at least HE had talent, and I don't use the word "talent" lightly eidah.

wow!

if you have something to say please feel free to say it to me instead of quoting everytime someone posts a diatribe against me...is carrying an everlasgting grudge what christ would do?

now is there some issue you wish to take up with me?
i would welcome it so it can be discussed

**Tuff Gong** · 06-27-2009, 02:36 AM

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
hey dude...
this entire thread i didn't call anyone's name yet you feel it is necessary to come with the personal attacks</div></div>

My friend please learn the basics of <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">English Comprehension</span>. Not calling someone a name but referring to person(s) who make comments as <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">classless</span> is a <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">personal attack</span> on the person. You are not answering a specific question or replying to the essence of the post in anyway shape or form you are merely <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">attacking the integrity of poster</span>.
It is your <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">considered opinion </span>that the poster(s) is/are <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">classless</span>, fine, then it might be another’s opinion that you are an<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'"> idiot</span>.... it is as simple as that.

**Tuff Gong** · 06-27-2009, 02:44 AM

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: monk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> u know dat smaddy gwine now come seh wat dem heard even widdout reading di article? </div></div>

yeah, nature of the beast. but at least it tends to prove fodder for comedy. some of this, I couldn't make up if I tried. </div></div>
It is important to note that no one is disputing that MTV was racist in its programming. It is also important to overstand from the success of MJ's Rep that he did have power and used it to the greater good. That is the take away from this, in fact it was blacks who complained loudly that Michael did not care about Blacks till the child molestation charges came to fore.
Michael Jackson have been one of the very few artistes I can say <span style="font-style: italic">(this my opinion)</span> that 99% of his troubles <span style="font-style: italic">(other than with his own family)</span> seems to have been self-inflicted, because he has been a very powerful force since he was a child star.

**jah_yout** · 06-27-2009, 02:46 AM

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
hey dude...
this entire thread i didn't call anyone's name yet you feel it is necessary to come with the personal attacks</div></div>

My friend please learn the basics of <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">English Comprehension</span>. Not calling someone a name but referring to person(s) who make comments as <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">classless</span> is a <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">personal attack</span> on the person. You are not answering a specific question or replying to the essence of the post in anyway shape or form you are merely <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">attacking the integrity of poster</span>.
It is your <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">considered opinion </span>that the poster(s) is/are <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">classless</span>, fine, then it might be another’s opinion that you are an<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'"> idiot</span>.... it is as simple as that.
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lol...you are great at mind-reading;
and indeed people have opinions...i already know for sure you consider i man an idiot as you have clearly stated on numerous occasions on this board...so why the outrage at a perceived slight toward yourself?
if you dish it out surely you can take it, no?

**Tuff Gong** · 06-27-2009, 02:47 AM

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">lol...you are great at mind-reading;
and indeed people have opinions...i already know for sure you consider i man an idiot as you have clearly stated on numerous occasions on this board</div></div>
Of course I don't read minds, I can't read minds!

**Tuff Gong** · 06-27-2009, 02:49 AM

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I am waiting to see thi turning on each other any more than it has always been.
There will always be opposite views between any group of people. Opposite views is no evidence of turning on each other. </div></div>

Thanks for writing that.....do you mean it or is it just a <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">filler</span>!

**Tuff Gong** · 06-27-2009, 03:07 AM

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Jackson Death Cripples Web...</span>

**jah_yout** · 06-27-2009, 03:28 AM

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
hey dude...
this entire thread i didn't call anyone's name yet you feel it is necessary to come with the personal attacks</div></div>

My friend please learn the basics of <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">English Comprehension</span>. Not calling someone a name but referring to person(s) who make comments as <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">classless</span> is a <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">personal attack</span> on the person. You are not answering a specific question or replying to the essence of the post in anyway shape or form you are merely <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">attacking the integrity of poster</span>.
It is your <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">considered opinion </span>that the poster(s) is/are <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">classless</span>, fine, then it might be another’s opinion that you are an<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'"> idiot</span>.... it is as simple as that.
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well due to the personal attacks on myself stemming from my words, i will have to re-post the original & show that i was making a general reply to a general question & not intending to attack any board member, although i can see how it could be misconstrued that way...this is the original post, bold added by me:

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[quote=Nylah]

Sorry with all due respect <span style="font-weight: bold">why do ppl say not to speak ill of the dead?</span> Not that I feel TG or Milo Man did that about Michael but <span style="font-weight: bold">for anyone that has passed...why do ppl believe in this statement?</span>
I mean, if I didnt like you the day before you died why and I gonna turn hypocrite and chat you like you are my best friend? If you dont care if someone is dead cause thet meant nothing to you, as much as that may not sound nice, at least it is honest.

[quote=jah_yout]

it's called class...and some people will never be able to buy it much less have it;
i think it stems from the fact that the person who is deceased is no longer here to defend themself...it is the ultimate end, so it is crass to speak ill of the dead, unless of course that person was your bitter enemy or hated nemesis then i can overstand taking shots at a dead person...
it's like having a boxing match with an arm-less person

**Gen** · 06-27-2009, 03:32 AM

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

yeah that guys been around for a while mumbling the same fawt. he had a warehouse filled with memorabilia I think. something about mj owe him money and all kinda fawt. I dont remember what became of him cause it was never reported that the items were ever returned

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: britisha</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So now, wan man a new Jersey, wan white man seh him have UNRELESED MUSIC OF MICHAEL JACKSON in his possession.

Dem interviewed him and him haff all saawts of paraphernalia a show.

guess wha?

Guess NOH man !!

A bet yuh cuddn't guess...

but yuh know wha? A cuddah lie...

..him all haff AN SHOW wan ole tube of <span style="font-weight: bold">READY FOR THIS?????</span>

'BLEACHING CREAM' SEH A DID FI MICHAEL...BUT AS MI SEH A CUDDAH LIE HIM A TEL TUH... </div></div>

If it`s the same guy that I saw on a documentary just a couple weeks ago here then yes it is true,...this guy that I saw was owed money by michael,and after a series of court cases they got permission to cease some goods of his,which if sold on the market now would be worth a kings ransom. </div></div>

**neutral** · 06-27-2009, 05:07 AM

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
i have a few choice names i could call you myself but i will refrain for now,

god bless you </div></div>

It`s ok mate,no doubt you will call me a few choice names in time,...and I have a few choice names I will call YOU right back.

"god" bless YOU too.

**britisha** · 06-27-2009, 07:57 AM

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

(((BINK)))

**britisha** · 06-27-2009, 08:29 AM

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

Deepak Chopra talk too much?

**sistacaf** · 06-27-2009, 10:56 AM

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

and yet here even today the tupid British tabloids have giant headline: "Jacko" is dead. can they not respeck the man even in death? aye sah.

b. i don't think deepak said too much in that Huff post article, i thought it was recollections spoken from the heart.... no mention of what he said on CNN

btw did you see nightine last night? they had him on there as well

**sistacaf** · 06-27-2009, 01:34 PM

Re: MJ: Lisa Marie's thoughts

britisha this might be of interest 2 U (copied from another BB)

Under the title "He Knew", Michael Jackson's former wife, Lisa Marie Presley, posted on her MySpace blog:

http://blogs.myspace.com/lisamariepresley

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"Years ago Michael and I were having a deep conversation about life in general. I can't recall the exact subject matter but he may have been questioning me about the circumstances of my Fathers Death.

At some point he paused, he stared at me very intensely and he stated with an almost calm certainty, "I am afraid that I am going to end up like him, the way he did." I promptly tried to deter him from the idea, at which point he just shrugged his shoulders and nodded almost matter of fact as if to let me know, he knew what he knew and that was kind of that.
14 years later I am sitting here watching on the news an ambulance leaves the driveway of his home, the big gates, the crowds outside the gates, the coverage, the crowds outside the hospital, the Cause of death and what may have led up to it and the memory of this conversation hit me, as did the unstoppable tears.

A predicted ending by him, by loved ones and by me, but what I didn't predict was how much it was going to hurt when it finally happened.

The person I failed to help is being transferred right now to the LA County Coroners office for his Autopsy. All of my indifference and detachment that I worked so hard to achieve over the years has just gone into the bowels of hell and right now I am gutted.

I am going to say now what I have never said before because I want the truth out there for once.
Our relationship was not "a sham" as is being reported in the press. It was an unusual relationship yes, where two unusual people who did not live or know a "Normal life" found a connection, perhaps with some suspect timing on his part. Nonetheless, I do believe he loved me as much as he could love anyone and I loved him very much. I wanted to "save him" I wanted to save him from the inevitable which is what has just happened. His family and his loved ones also wanted to save him from this as well but didn't know how and this was 14 years ago. We all worried that this would be the outcome then. At that time, In trying to save him, I almost lost myself. He was an incredibly dynamic force and power that was not to be underestimated.

When he used it for something good, It was the best and when he used it for something bad, It was really, REALLY bad. Mediocrity was not a concept that would even for a second enter Michael Jackson's being or actions.

I became very ill and emotionally/ spiritually exhausted in my quest to save him from certain self-destructive behavior and from the awful vampires and leeches he would always manage to magnetize around him. I was in over my head while trying. I had my children to care for, I had to make a decision. The hardest decision I have ever had to make, which was to walk away and let his fate have him, even though I desperately loved him and tried to stop or reverse it somehow. After the Divorce, I spent a few years obsessing about him and what I could have done different, in regret. Then I spent some angry years at the whole situation. At some point, I truly became Indifferent, until now.

As I sit here overwhelmed with sadness, reflection and confusion at what was my biggest failure to date, watching on the news almost play by play The exact Scenario I saw happen on August 16th, 1977 happening again right now with Michael (A sight I never wanted to see again) just as he predicted, I am truly, truly gutted. Any ill experience or words I have felt towards him in the past has just died inside of me along with him.

He was an amazing person and I am lucky to have gotten as close to him as I did and to have had the many experiences and years that we had together. I desperately hope that he can be relieved from his pain, pressure and turmoil now. He deserves to be free from all of that and I hope he is in a better place or will be.

I also hope that anyone else who feels they have failed to help him can be set free because he hopefully finally is.

The World is in shock but somehow he knew exactly how his fate would be played out some day more than anyone else knew, and he was right.

I really needed to say this right now, thanks for listening.
~LMP"
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Michael Jackson died

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