fiyah pon skippee gates

**Tuff Gong** · 08-01-2009, 11:30 PM

Re: fiyah pon skippee gates

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Originally posted by Empress_Miggy

Originally posted by Dr.Dudd

Look like the officer was practicing <span style="font-weight: bold">Jim Crow-laws</span> </div></div>

Good one!

HOWEVER...I don't see this whole Gates-Crowley incident as an example of racial profiling. Yes, it involved a Black man and a white officer but if you check it deeply, it had more to do with class and ego. A blue collar white officer versus a leading scholar in African-American studies and academia. Both men let their pride get the best of them and became indignant about the fact that the other DARE test his manhood and challenge his authority.

I live in Boston--the neighboring city to Cambridge which is where the incident took place. Cambridge has a long history of being very culturally diverse and accepting BUT the class war is alive and well. Again, affluent academics in conflict with poor and working-class whites, African-Americans and immigrants.

Does racism still exist in America? OF COURSE...it is alive and well!! But the Gates-Crowley "showdown" is being misused to make the case. </div></div>It has a lot more to do with racism that class-ism. What was involved was the very common phenomenon of a lower achieving white person resenting that any black person should be able to live where skip gates lived. It happens son often that it has a series of names depend on the circumstance. When i was in college I was more hated than the lower performing blacks. As a matter of fact they would try to use the lower performing blacks to get at me after trying to encourage me that I was trying too hard. Yet I never study. I simply read and remember. This is something that just about every black that happen to reach the levels of society reserved for whites only. So it is about class, but that class is based on racist resentment of the officer. they have a way to couch their questions to show complete disdain, when they see that you really belong in an area, they could never in their wildest dreams achieve. that is where the class comes it. incidentally there are blacks that are also jealous of other blacks, but those are the ones who believe that they are supposed to be <span style="font-weight: bold">the only black</span> to do what they have done. Those are the really dumb ones that usually fall on their faces later. </div></div>

LOL!

As you laugh at me it remind me of when I was in my 20's i told a Jamaican police officer that What I pay as taxes for 1 month pays him for years.. He was so embarrassed, that i became really sorry I said it. i apologise. to him. and show him my license which I really did not have to Since I was on my own premises and was not driving any vehicle. i suppose he wanted to know my name or something.

LOL!

**Tuff Gong** · 08-01-2009, 11:32 PM

Re: fiyah pon skippee gates

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-size: 14pt"> Listen Black giant , racist giant or whatever giant you are preesently going by,you can keep mimicking the racist of this world by following their lead of labelling certain neighborhoods as Mzungo white or whatever you racists call it. But i live in a home . a real Jamaican home that just happen to be situated in a area where more whit people seem to live than black people. </span> </div></div>

disss mekk mii laff

soo yu live inn wan moaslee mzungu neighbarrhood ann yu doan like wen mii label dem mzungu neighbarhood . soo yu buy wan oome inn wan area wear more mzungu "seem" too live dan blakk peeps ann yu gitt affended. iff itt mekk yu feel bettar mii awlso tink area wear more blakk dan mzungu see too live as blakk area. drdudd doo yu cansidar marcus garvey wan racist?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-size: 14pt">After all just about 99.99 percent of neighborhoods and 100% of habitable ones are mostly whites.</span> </div></div>

dat statement above iss real racist. yu gitt angree ann yu start racist rantinn cah yu waan fii justifii elitist blakks justifikkkayshan y dem move inna mzungu neighbarhood. yu knoo mii ann mii accountant were discussinn diss same ting cah imm feel a way wen blakk qwestian y imm move inna mzungu neighbarhood. yu knoo att dii heart aff dii issue iss weddar blakks woo move inna mzungu neighbarhood ar sellout ann less blakk. still dat iss tredd bye ittself ann dat will derail de fiyah pon skippee theme

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-size: 14pt">On the question of what haooened, I think that he lost his temper and the officer decidee to teach him the usual lesson, reserved for blacks. It did not matter that he was in any specific neighbor hood.</span> </div></div>

mii agree widd yu dat skippee last imm temper because imm tink dii mzungu afficers wass treatinn de "grate" skippee like dem lowa class blakks dat skippee luv fii diss. awl aff a sudden imm tink imm wass beeinn treated like wan blakk man natt de aalf mzungu sellout imm luv fii describe immself as. mii wandar iff imm doo imm dna test ova iff imm will find more blakk dna. yess itt doo mattar de neighbarhood imm wass inn. iff diss add gawn too trial yu knoo blakk peeps wood natt vote fii indict imm butt imm moaslee mzungu neighbars might. doo de studee drdudd ann mii bett yu de parcentage incarceration rate aff blakks inn mzungu neighbarhood iss iigha cah aff racism

mii agree widd yu bout de racism aff de campus police ann de transient rites. wan day mii will doo wan tredd ann bunn sum fiyah pon iigha misedukkkayshan racism </div></div>

LOL!

**blugiant** · 08-01-2009, 11:45 PM

Re: fiyah pon skippee gates

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">look pon de furst tredd bout gates ann yu will see mii cawl imm wan wannabee mzungu. doan memba iff mii cawl imm wan sellout fii too.</div></div>
BlakkanBlu every black person that has gotten a good education AND become successful is a wanna be mizungu to you.

You are a <span style="font-style: italic"> contra</span>. You are against... just another hater with no [censored] solutions. </div></div>

read mii tagline

crab inna barrel argument nuh wukk widd mii cah de crabs inna barrel wey pull dunn de sellouts ann wannabee mzungu dunn ann lowe de cancious blakks fii escape iss a smart way aff upliftinn blakks

solution iss eezee awl mzungu affii stapp beeinn racists

**blugiant** · 08-01-2009, 11:48 PM

Re: fiyah pon skippee gates

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Good one!

HOWEVER...I don't see this whole Gates-Crowley incident as an example of racial profiling. Yes, it involved a Black man and a white officer but if you check it deeply, it had more to do with class and ego. A blue collar white officer versus a leading scholar in African-American studies and academia. Both men let their pride get the best of them and became indignant about the fact that the other DARE test his manhood and challenge his authority.

I live in Boston--the neighboring city to Cambridge which is where the incident took place. Cambridge has a long history of being very culturally diverse and accepting BUT the class war is alive and well. Again, affluent academics in conflict with poor and working-class whites, African-Americans and immigrants.

Does racism still exist in America? OF COURSE...it is alive and well!! But the Gates-Crowley "showdown" is being misused to make the case. </div></div>It has a lot more to do with racism that class-ism. What was involved was the very common phenomenon of a lower achieving white person resenting that any black person should be able to live where skip gates lived. It happens son often that it has a series of names depend on the circumstance. When i was in college I was more hated than the lower performing blacks. As a matter of fact they would try to use the lower performing blacks to get at me after trying to encourage me that I was trying too hard. Yet I never study. I simply read and remember. This is something that just about every black that happen to reach the levels of society reserved for whites only. So it is about class, but that class is based on racist resentment of the officer. they have a way to couch their questions to show complete disdain, when they see that you really belong in an area, they could never in their wildest dreams achieve. that is where the class comes it. incidentally there are blacks that are also jealous of other blacks, but those are the ones who believe that they are supposed to be <span style="font-weight: bold">the only black</span> to do what they have done. Those are the really dumb ones that usually fall on their faces later. </div></div>

LOL! [/quote] As you laugh at me it remind me of when I was in my 20's i told a Jamaican police officer that What I pay as taxes for 1 month pays him for years.. He was so embarrassed, that i became really sorry I said it. i apologise. to him. and show him my license which I really did not have to Since I was on my own premises and was not driving any vehicle. i suppose he wanted to know my name or something. [/quote]

LOL! [/quote]

itt bring bakk memoree een tg. didd yu give dii doctor imm license bakk

**f0rTyLeGz** · 08-01-2009, 11:58 PM

Re: fiyah pon skippee gates

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">... de crabs inna barrel wey pull dunn de sellouts ann wannabee mzungu dunn ann lowe de cancious blakks fii escape iss a smart way aff upliftinn blakks

solution iss eezee awl mzungu affii stapp beeinn racists </div></div>

Unhuh all that is wrong is the fault of those wanna be whites and whites. .... oh and the queers of course.

Do you think that racism would disappear if every white person disappeared from the planet?... and all queers too?

You have no [censored] argument... you think you are a satirist er something but you are a hater. You look out on the world and see [censored] to hate... your eyes are full of blood.

**blugiant** · 08-02-2009, 12:08 AM

Re: fiyah pon skippee gates

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">... de crabs inna barrel wey pull dunn de sellouts ann wannabee mzungu dunn ann lowe de cancious blakks fii escape iss a smart way aff upliftinn blakks

solution iss eezee awl mzungu affii stapp beeinn racists </div></div>

Unhuh all that is wrong is the fault of those wanna be whites and whites. .... oh and the queers of course.

Do you think that racism would disappear if every white person disappeared from the planet?... and all queers too?

You have no [censored] argument... you think you are a satirist er something but you are a hater. You look out on the world and see [censored] to hate... your eyes are full of blood. </div></div>

trii itt diss way awl peeps cum out aff afrikka blakk ann mzungu included soo y mii wood waan fii see awl mzungu dissapear?

iff de queers dissappear dat a diffarant issue

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As Paul Street writes in this issue of BAR (“’Skip’ Gates: A Curious Martyr in the Struggle Against Racism”), Gates once declared that Blacks must undergo nothing less than “a moral revolution and a revolution of attitude” or risk a permanent schism between the “huge underclass” and the “relatively small” group of Black people like himself. </div></div>

soo yu agree widd mii dat skippee gates iss wan wannabee mzungu didd yu read dat artikkle yu poas bout wat skippee sedd bout poor blakks

**blugiant** · 08-02-2009, 12:24 AM

Re: fiyah pon skippee gates

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">GATES: Have you ever gone to a movie with black people? They talk to the screen. That's what we tried to do, set up a call and response between the annotations and the text that's like the way black people go to the movies.

Look, from Frederick Douglass, who reviewed and praised it, to James Baldwin in 1949, "Uncle Tom's Cabin" has had more impact than any other single book on the shaping of African-American literature. Now it's unread by black people. I'm trying to get a new generation of black people to read it, and it's an uphill battle.</div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">GATES: Because, for one thing, the book is dripping with -- how do I put it politely? -- contextual racism. I made a list of every time Stowe uses the term "woolly headed niggers." She must have used the phrase 200 times. To get to Stowe's big points about suffering, moral principle, and the possibility of transcendence, you have to wade through that. That kind of racism makes it hard to get new black readers through the first chapter.</div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">GATES: Because, for one thing, the book is dripping with -- how do I put it politely? -- contextual racism. I made a list of every time Stowe uses the term "woolly headed niggers." She must have used the phrase 200 times. To get to Stowe's big points about suffering, moral principle, and the possibility of transcendence, you have to wade through that. That kind of racism makes it hard to get new black readers through the first chapter.

Working on "Uncle Tom's Cabin," I realized Stokely and the others weren't thinking about James Baldwin or Harriet Beecher Stowe or even Roy Wilkins, head of the NAACP. They meant Uncle Tom to be a metaphor for Martin Luther King. King, they thought, was the long suffering, too Christian person leading the movement astray.</div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">IDEAS: Is even Uncle Tom really an Uncle Tom? I mean, he'd rather be tortured to death than raise his hand against another slave, as they try to make him do on Simon Legree's plantation.

GATES: That's a deep strength. And he'll help slaves, nonviolently, all the time. He has great principles. He puts his head in the mouth of the lion. That takes an enormous amount of courage. And he loved Chloe and his kids more than anything -- and Little Eva. I think if Simon Legree had tried to hurt Little Eva, he would have kicked Simon Legree's [censored].</div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">IDEAS: What about the sentimentality in the book? Does that get in your way?

GATES: Let me answer this way: Do you remember "The Little Rascals"? I used to watch it when I was a kid. I can still remember "The Little Rascals" version of "Uncle Tom's Cabin." I was 6 or 7, hardly knew what it was about. But that scene where Little Eva dies was one of the saddest things I've ever seen. She dies, the little white girl. She's got strings attached to her wings, and they take her away to heaven. That's still a very powerful image to me, even now, at 56 years old.</div></div>

sund like gate neva see da racism widd bukkwheat. wan aff dese day mii affii watch de little rascal soo mii caan bunn fiyah pon itt too

**Tuff Gong** · 08-02-2009, 12:46 AM

Re: fiyah pon skippee gates

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">itt bring bakk memoree een tg. didd yu give dii doctor imm license bakk </div></div>
I am one <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">hundred percent </span>sure I have never come across the Doc. Unlike you and the Doc I have never coveted a man or woman for his or her status in life, never harassed or threaten another because I could not tolerate their colour, nor have I ever found it necessary to rail against the rich or the well-to-do simply because they are rich and or well-to-do.

**f0rTyLeGz** · 08-02-2009, 01:49 AM

Re: fiyah pon skippee gates

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
trii itt diss way awl peeps cum out aff afrikka blakk ann mzungu included soo y mii wood waan fii see awl mzungu dissapear?</div></div>
Blu... you truly are a hopeless idjit! "All people come out of Africa!" So the [censored] what?

Im saying that anyone in the US who can read better than a 9th grader is either a white or a want to be white in your brain. You dont talk about what you like... you talk about what you hate and disrespect. You offer NO *****Clat solutions... never. Not once.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">iff de queers dissappear dat a diffarant issue </div></div>
We ALL know you love men blueboy, and cant not stop fantacizing about it!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As Paul Street writes in this issue of BAR (“’Skip’ Gates: A Curious Martyr in the Struggle Against Racism”), Gates once declared that Blacks must undergo nothing less than “a moral revolution and a revolution of attitude” or risk a permanent schism between the “huge underclass” and the “relatively small” group of Black people like himself.

soo yu agree widd mii dat skippee gates iss wan wannabee mzungu didd yu read dat artikkle yu poas bout wat skippee sedd bout poor blakks </div></div>
Yeah he's a horrible guy. He's an [censored]!

**blugiant** · 08-02-2009, 10:39 AM

Re: fiyah pon skippee gates

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">itt bring bakk memoree een tg. didd yu give dii doctor imm license bakk </div></div>
I am one <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">hundred percent </span>sure I have never come across the Doc. Unlike you and the Doc I have never coveted a man or woman for his or her status in life, never harassed or threaten another because I could not tolerate their colour, nor have I ever found it necessary to rail against the rich or the well-to-do simply because they are rich and or well-to-do. </div></div>

diss mekk mii laff

nuh yu wass railinn against michael jackson cah imm wass wan trang blakk man ann yu ave iissue widd blakknesss(tink aff yu shamefull coal black statements bout yu grandmaddar). yu see de reason y mii stranglee defend mj wass cah imm wass a blakk man dat neva sellout soo dat refute yu statement

yu eva read ow gates chat negative bout imm blakk maddar wey imm sey hated mzungu dat y shii sed dem awl smell like dawgs wen wet too pander too imm mzungu benefactors.

wat a ting iff mii start fii chatt bout sellout gates mzungu wives

**blugiant** · 08-02-2009, 10:59 AM

Re: fiyah pon skippee gates

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
trii itt diss way awl peeps cum out aff afrikka blakk ann mzungu included soo y mii wood waan fii see awl mzungu dissapear?</div></div>
Blu... you truly are a hopeless idjit! "All people come out of Africa!" So the [censored] what?

Im saying that anyone in the US who can read better than a 9th grader is either a white or a want to be white in your brain. You dont talk about what you like... you talk about what you hate and disrespect. You offer NO *****Clat solutions... never. Not once.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">iff de queers dissappear dat a diffarant issue </div></div>
We ALL know you love men blueboy, and cant not stop fantacizing about it!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As Paul Street writes in this issue of BAR (“’Skip’ Gates: A Curious Martyr in the Struggle Against Racism”), Gates once declared that Blacks must undergo nothing less than “a moral revolution and a revolution of attitude” or risk a permanent schism between the “huge underclass” and the “relatively small” group of Black people like himself.

soo yu agree widd mii dat skippee gates iss wan wannabee mzungu didd yu read dat artikkle yu poas bout wat skippee sedd bout poor blakks </div></div>
Yeah he's a horrible guy. He's an [censored]!

</div></div>

fram beefour mii cum too diss countree mii wass readinn way betta dan wan nine graders. yu wood bee shocked fii see oww iigh mzungu racist test sey mii readinn ann camprehension level iss. meybee dat y mii didd soo well pon sat even dough mii neva studee ar tekk annee prep course fii itt. yu argument bout blakkness beeinn related to illtarrecee iss racist. soo even dough yu tryinn fii gawn like yu natt racist yu own wurd betray yu. yu reallee tink mii wood bye inna mzungu, wannabee mzungu ann missedukkkated blakks nunsense bout edukkkayshan iss mzungu ting. solution awl mzungu muss stapp beeinn racist

awl mii seyinn iss dat skippee ave a lang iistaree aff pandarinn too mzungu soo fii imm fii tink imm can suddenlee becum a leadinn blakk voice pon racism iss annada xxample aff dat wannabee mzungu tryinn fii mislead blakks

**blugiant** · 08-02-2009, 11:02 AM

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The New York Times OP-ED MONDAY, JULY 20, 1992

Black Demagogues and Pseudo-Scholars

By Henry Louis Gates Jr.

CAMBRIDGE, Mass.

During the past decade, the historic relationship between African-Americans and Jewish Americans -- a relationship that sponsored so many of the concrete advances of the civil rights era -- showed another and less attractive face.

While anti-Semitism is generally on the wane in this country, it has been on the rise among black Americans. A recent survey finds not only that blacks are twice as likely as whites to hold anti-Semitic views but -- significantly -- that it is among younger and more educated blacks that anti-Semitism is most pronounced.

The trend has been deeply disquieting for many black intellectuals. But it is something most of us, as if by unstated agreement, choose not to talk about. At a time when black America is beleaguered on all sides, there is a strong temptation simply to Ignore the phenomenon or treat it as something strictly marginal. And yet to do so would be a serious mistake. As the African-American philosopher Cornel West has insisted, attention to black anti-Semitism is crucial, however discomfiting, in no small part because the moral credibility of our struggle against racism hangs in the balance.

When the Rev. Jesse Jackson, in an impassioned address at a conference of the World Jewish Congress on July 7, condemned the sordid history of anti-Semitism, he not only went some distance toward retrieving the once abandoned mantle of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s humane statesmanship, he also delivered a stern rebuke -- while not specifically citing black anti-Semitism -- to those black leaders who have sought to bolster their own strength through division. Mr. Jackson and others have learned that we must not allow these demagogues to turn the wellspring of memory into a renewable resource of enmity everlasting.

We must begin by recognizing what is new about the new anti-Semitism. Make no mistake: This is anti-Semitism from the top down engineered and promoted by leaders who affect to be speaking for a larger resentment. This top-down anti-Semitism, in large part the province of the better educated classes, can thus be contrasted with the anti-Semitism from below common among African-American urban communities in the 1930’s and 40’s, which followed in many ways a familiar pattern of clientelistic hostility toward the neighborhood vendor or landlord.

In our cities, hostility of this sort is now commonly directed toward Korean shop owners. But “minority” traders and shopkeepers elsewhere in the world -- such as the Indians of East Africa and the Chinese of Southeast Asia -- have experienced similar ethnic antagonism. Anti-Jewish sentiment can also be traced to Christian anti-Semitism, given the historic importance of Christianity in the black community.

Unfortunately, the old paradigms will not serve to explain the new bigotry and its role in black America. For one thing, its preferred currency is not the mumbled epithet or curse but the densely argued treatise; it belongs as much to the repertory of campus lecturers as community activists. And it comes in wildly different packages.

A book popular with some in the “Afrocentric” movement, “The Iceman Inheritance: Prehistoric Sources of Western Man’s Racism, Sexism, and Aggression,” by Michael Bradley, argues that white people are so vicious because they, like the rest of mankind, are descended from the brutish Neanderthals. More to the point, it speculates that the Jews may have been the “‘purest’ and oldest Neanderthal-Caucasoids,” the iciest of the ice people; hence (he explains) the singularly odious character of ancient Jewish culture.

Crackpot as it sounds, the book has lately been reissued with endorsements from two members of the Africana Studies Department of the City College of New York, as well as an introduction by Dr. John Henrik Clarke, professor emeritus of Hunter College and the great paterfamilias of the Afrocentric movement.

Dr. Clarke recently attacked multiculturalism as the product of what he called the “Jewish educational mafia.” And while Dr. Leonard Jeffries’s views on supposed Jewish complicity in the subjection of blacks captured headlines, his intellectual cohorts such as Conrad Muhammad and Khallid Muhammad address community gatherings and college students across the country purveying a similar doctrine. College speakers and publications have played a disturbing role in legitimating the new creed. Last year, U.C.L.A.’s black newspaper, Nommo, defended the importance of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, the notorious Czarist canard that portrays a Jewish conspiracy to rule the world. (Those who took issue were rebuked with an article headlined: “Anti-Semitic? Ridiculous -- Chill.”) Speaking at Harvard University earlier this year, Conrad Muhammad, the New York representative of the Nation of Islam, neatly annexed environmentalism to anti-Semitism when he blamed the Jews for despoiling the environment and destroying the ozone layer.

But the bible of the new anti-Semitism is “The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews,” an official publication of the Nation of Islam that boasts 1,275 footnotes in the course of 334 pages.

Sober and scholarly looking, it may well be one of the most influential books published in the black community in last 12 months. It is available in black oriented shops in cities across the nation, even those that specialize in Kente cloth and beads rather than books. It can also can be ordered over the phone, by dialing 1-800-48-TRUTH. Meanwhile, the book's conclusions are, in many circles, increasingly treated as damning historical fact. The book, one of the most sophisticated instances of hate literature yet compiled, was prepared by the historical research department of the Nation of Islam. It charges that the Jews were “key operatives” in the historic crime of slavery, playing an “inordinate” and ‘disproportionate” role and “carv[ing] out for themselves a monumental culpability in slavery -- and the black holocaust.” Among significant sectors of the black community, this brief has become a credo of a new philosophy of black self-affirmation.

To be sure, the book massively mis-represents the historical record, largely through a process of cunningly selective quotation of often reputable sources. But its authors could be confident that few of Its readers would go to the trouble of actually hunting down the works cited. For if readers actually did so, they might discover a rather different picture.

They might find out -- from the book’s own vaunted authorities -- that, for example, of all the African slaves imported into the New World, American Jewish merchants accounted for less than 2 percent, a finding sharply at odds with the Nation of Islam’s claim of Jewish “predominance” in this traffic.

They might find out that in the domestic trade it appears that all of the Jewish slave traders combined bought and sold fewer slaves than the single gentile firm of Franklin and Armfield. In short, they might learn what the historian Harold Brackman has documented -- that the book's repeated insistence that the Jews dominated the slave trade depends on an unscrupulous distortion of the historic record. But the most ominous words in the book are found on the cover: “Volume One.” More have been promised, to carry on the saga of Jewish iniquity to the present day.

However shoddy the scholarship of works like “The Secret Relationship,” underlying it is something even more troubling: the tacit conviction that culpability is heritable. For it suggests a doctrine of racial continuity, in which the racial evil of a people is merely manifest (rather than constituted) by their historical misdeeds. The reported misdeeds are thus the signs of an essential nature that is evil.

How does this theology of guilt surface in our everyday moral discourse? In New York, earlier this spring, a forum was held at the Church of St. Paul and Andrew to provide an occasion for blacks and Jews to begin dialogue on such issues as slavery and social injustice. Both Jewish and black panelists found common ground and common causes. But a tone-setting contingent of blacks in the audience took strong issue with the proceedings. Outraged, they demanded to know why the Jews, those historic malefactors, had not apologized to the “descendants of African kings and queens.”

And so the organizer of the event, Melanie Kaye Kantrowitz, did. Her voice quavering with emotion, she said: “I think I speak for a lot of people in this room when I say ‘I’m sorry.’ We’re ashamed of it, we hate it, and that’s why we organized this event.” Should the Melanie Kantrowitzes of the world, whose ancestors survived Czarist pogroms and, latterly, the Nazi Holocaust, be the primary object of our wrath? And what is yielded by this hateful sport of victimology, save the conversion of a tragic past into a game of recrimination? Perhaps that was on the mind of another audience member. “I don’t want an apology,” a dreadlocked woman told her angrily. “I want reparations. Forty acres and a mule, plus interest.”

These are times that try the spirit of liberal outreach. In fact, Louis Farrakhan, leader of the Nation of Islam, himself explained the real agenda behind his campaign, speaking before an audience of 15,000 at the University of Illinois last fall. The purpose of “The Secret Relationship” he said, was to “rearrange a relationship” that “has been detrimental to us.”

“Rearrange” is a curiously elliptical term here: If a relation with another group has been detrimental, it only makes sense to sever it as quickly and unequivocally as possible. In short, by “rearrange,” he means to convert a relation of friendship, alliance and uplift into one of enmity, distrust and hatred. But why target the Jews? Using the same historical methodology, after all, the researchers of the book could have produced a damning treatise on the involvement of left-handers in the “black holocaust.” The answer requires us to go beyond the usual shibboleths about bigotry and view the matter, from the demagogues' perspective, strategically: as the bid of one black elite to supplant another. It requires us, in short, to see anti-Semitism as a weapon in the raging battle of who will speak for black America -- those who have sought common cause with others or those who preach a barricaded withdrawal into racial authenticity. The strategy of these apostles of hate, I believe, is best understood as ethnic isolationism -- they know that the more isolated black America becomes, the greater their power. And what’s the most efficient way to begin to sever black America from its allies? Bash the Jews, these demagogues apparently calculate, and you’re halfway there.

I myself think that an aphorist put his finger on something germane when he observed, “We can rarely bring ourselves to forgive those who have helped us.” For sometimes it seems that the trajectory of black-Jewish relations is a protracted enactment of this paradox.

Many Jews are puzzled by the recrudescence of black anti-Semitism in view of the historic alliance. The brutal truth has escaped them that the new anti-Semitism arises not in spite of the black-Jewish alliance but because of it. For precisely such trans-racial cooperation -- epitomized by the historic partnership between blacks and Jews -- is what poses the greatest threat to the isolationist movement.

In short, for the tacticians of the new anti-Semitism, the original sin of American Jews was their involvement -- truly “inordinate,” truly “disproportionate” -- not in slavery, but in the front ranks of the civil rights struggle.

For decent and principled reasons, many black intellectuals are loath to criticize “oppositional” black leaders. Yet it has become apparent that to continue to maintain a comradely silence may be, in effect, to capitulate to the isolationist agenda, to betray our charge and trust. And, to be sure, many black writers, intellectuals and religious leaders have taken an unequivocal stand on this issue.

Cornel West aptly describes black anti-Semitism as “the bitter fruit of a profound self-destructive impulse, nurtured on the vines of hopelessness and concealed by empty gestures of black unity.”

After 12 years of conservative indifference, those political figures who acquiesced, by malign neglect, to the deepening crisis of black America should not feign surprise that we should prove so vulnerable to the demagogues’ rousing messages of hate, their manipulation of the past and present.

Bigotry, as a tragic century has taught us, is an opportunistic infection, attacking most virulently when the body politic is in a weakened state. Yet neither should those who care about black America gloss over what cannot be condoned: That much respect we owe to ourselves. For surely it falls to all of us to recapture the basic insight that Dr. King so insistently expounded. “We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality,” he told us. “Whatever affects one directly affects all indirectly.” How easy to forget this -- and how vital to remember.

Henry Louis Gates Jr. is professor of English and chairman of the AfroAmerican Studies Department at Harvard University

**blugiant** · 08-02-2009, 11:05 AM

Re: fiyah pon skippee gates

A Dissenting View

by John Henrik Clarke

The following is Dr. Clarke's response to "Black Demagogues and Pseudo-Scholars"

In reference to the OP-ED of Henry Louis Gates Jr. the New York Times (Monday, July 20, 1992), entitled "Black Demagogues and Pseudo-Scholars," I am raising the following questions: At once, I questioned the title of Professor Gates' article. He should never refer to anyone as a demagogue unless he's ready to call the names of the demagogues, singular or plural, and point out the nature of their demagoguery. He should never refer to any scholar as being pseudo, unless he is ready to name the scholar and prove the pseudo nature of his or her work. To disagree with a scholar does not make the scholar a demagogue.

Most of the old and new Black scholars asking for a total reconsideration of African history, in particular, and world history, in general, are using neglected documents by radical White Scholars who are generally neglected by the White academic community.

In African history I am referring to scholars like Gerald Massey and his work, Egypt, Light of the World, (two volumes), The Book of the Beginnings, (two volumes) and Natural Genesis, (two volumes).

I am also referring to Gerald Massey's greatest English disciple, Albert Churchward, whose book, The Signs and Symbols of Primordial Man, asks for a reconsideration of the role of people outside of Europe and their role in human development.

Your attention should also be called to the work, Anacalypsis, two volumes by Godfrey Higgins, published in 1837. These books deal with the dispersions of African people throughout the world.

Many of these Black scholars, whose work Professor Gates questioned, were reading works by Whites in French, German and other languages that spoke positively about African American achievement long before Mr. Gates' parents were born.

This school of Black scholars are neither demagogues nor are they pseudos; they are the forerunners of the present propagators of Afrocentricity. They know what Professor Gates doesn't seem to know: that African people are the most written about and the least understood people in the world.

If Professor Gates has not read the works of the White pioneer scholars about the role of African people in world history, it stands to reason that he has no understanding of the senior Black scholars such as Yosef ben-Jochannan, John G. Jackson, Cheikh Anta Diop, Jacob Carruthers, Chancellor Williams, Lao Hansberry and myself.

Professor Gates' reference to Black anti-Semitism is an exaggeration. A new Black awareness is causing Blacks, young and old, to question everything that has any influence on their lives. We are realizing that Jewish people have an influence on our lives far out of proportion to their numbers in the population. I totally disagree with Professor Gates that anti-Semitism among Whites is on the wane in the country. Quite the contrary, I think it is increasing in this country and in the world, and Black people are not the cause of it.

What you have in this new charge of Black and Semitism against Blacks is the most pathetic of all tragedies, a scapegoat looking for a scapegoat. Because of Black Americans' reading or misreading of the Bible, we have always had a sentimental attachment to Jewish people and, to a large extent, most of us still do. During slavery, we wanted to attach ourselves to a people who had escaped from bondage. So, the Exodus story in the Bible became more real to us than to the Jewish people. Right now, in a large number of Black Baptist churches, you can get a large number of the congregation to shed real tears of sympathy over the three Hebrew boys in the fiery furnace. Most of them dare not question whether this is folklore or fact.

There are well over 300 organized White hate groups in the United States. I know of no overt attacks by the Jews being made on any of them. Yet, Jewish people have attacked Louis Farrakhan more than they have attacked the leaders of the Aryan Nation or the American Nazi Party. Are the Jews in America looking for an easy victory or the Truth? Black Americans have never been their enemy. And they, the Jews, have never been our friends unless it was to their convenience. Neo-Nazism has fully re-emerged in Germany and in other states in Europe. These are people with a nation structure and armies. Why is it that a group of weak Black Americans are getting more attention from the Jews than these powerful White forces rising against them?

I'm sorry that Professor Cornell West saw fit to make a statement about this false charge of Black anti-Semitism. I could agree with his statement if the statement were true. What Black people are realizing in this country, in the Caribbean Islands and in Africa is that the Jewish people, of European descent, are a part of the world apparatus of European control. And, in the matter of White control over the world, their position is no different than that of other Europeans. I am not saying that the Jews of Europe are more bent on world dominance than other Europeans; I am saying that they are not radically different from other Europeans in this regard. Internal disputes between the Jews and other Europeans is a form of European domestic racism. European racism has spent itself out outside of Europe. During the Nazi regime in Germany, that racism turned inward on itself and created what is referred to as The Holocaust. This was a problem started in Europe by Europeans that should have been resolved in Europe by Europeans.

Repeatedly I have said that Europeans are geniuses at draining the diseased pus of their political sores on the lands of other people. What is now being called anti Semitism among a newly awakened Black intellectual class is that they are beginning to look at the people referred to as Jews as part of the totality of European world dominance. We are not saying that the European who is a Jew is any more of an imperialist than any other of the Europeans, but that he is basically the same. We are not saying that the role of the Jews in the slave trade was any different then any other Europeans, but that it was basically the same. When they saw the opportunity to make money in the slave trade, they took advantage of this opportunity the same as other Europeans in the same business.

I do not choose to deal with Jesse Jackson's opportunistic appearances at the World Jewish Congress and the statements that he made. Jesse Jackson has his own agenda that is unrelated to the Liberation Movement of his own people. He was catering to his Jewish audiences for reasons unrelated to Black people and their liberation movements.

Black people are becoming increasingly conscious of people who exploit their community and hold them in contempt. We make no exceptions when these exploiters are non-European.

In referring to present-day anti-Semitism and the attempt to trace it to having roots in Christianity, Professor Gates shows his lack of understanding of the manifestation of Christianity among American Blacks and how that interpretation of this religion is part of their humanity. Their interpretation, in no way, relates to anti-Semitism.

I wonder if Professor Gates would explain the words in the Negro spiritual:

Go down Moses ...
Tell ol' Pharaoh
To let my people go.

or the words:

Deep river,
My home is over Jordan.

This is African identification with the Biblical people of the Hebrew faith. It would help if Professor Gates would read a towering masterpiece in three volumes by James Fraser, The Folklore in the Old Testament and another contemporary book, Hebrew Myths, edited by Robert Graves and Raphael Patai.

I do not think that Professor Gates completely read Michael Bradley's The Iceman Inheritance before referring to it because in it Michael Bradley has very little to say about the Jews. The book, in essence, is about the rise of a certain kind of temperament that changed the world-the European Personality. This personality has shown little or no respect for civilizations, cultures and ways of life that it did not create. Cultures and people that the European did not understand were declared primitive.

In the last 500 years especially, European historians have inferred, or said outright, that the world waited in darkness for the Europeans to bring the light. In fact, the Europeans destroyed more civilization than they ever created. They destroyed civilizations that were already old before Europe was born.

Michael Bradley was characterizing the Europeans as "Icemen" is not totally incorrect, if it is incorrect at all. I wrote the Introduction to the new edition of this book, because I considered the book to be of some significance in explaining the origin of racism. I did not say the book was a masterpiece of the greatest achievement in writing. It was good basic research and told honesty about Europeans' beginnings and the impact of racism on the broader world. I have also written the Foreword to another book by Michael Bradley that will be even more controversial, Chosen People From The Caucasus: Jewish Origins, Delusions Deceptions, and Historical in the Slave Trade, Genocide Cultural Colonization. (Third World Press, Chicago).

My writing on Black-Jewish relationships is not new. I participated in forums on this subject in the old Harlem History Club in the 30s. In my latest book, Notes for an African World Revolution: Africans at the Crossroads, (Africa World Press, Trenton, 1991), Chapter Four is called 'Africa, Zionism, and Friends Without Friendship." This is an analysis of 500 years of African-Jewish relationships. I am not writing about an historical Black-Jewish affiance, because the one often referred to is a myth. There can be no successful alliance between weak people and strong people.

There have been times when it was to the best interest of the Jews to support certain Black causes, and they have supported them. When it was no longer in their interest, they withdrew from them. The Jewish people have practiced what all people on this earth have a right to practice the essential selfishness of survival.

Indeed, I have criticized multiculturalism and Jewish control over the education system in New York City and the education system in the United States, in general, especially the Teachers Union. Jews have had no compunction in fighting for a holocaust curriculum. And in many schools it is mandated and Black students must learn about the Holocaust before they learn about their own history.

Over the years, I have said repeatedly I am not willing to argue whether Hitler killed 6,000,000 or six. He was wrong if he only killed six. I think he committed one of the greatest crimes in history. No human being would ever approve of this crime. If we are honest about historical information, we would know that the mass murder and what is referred to as the Holocaust was a small event in comparison to other mass murder events in history. The Belgians killed three times more people than this in the Congo. In an island near Australia called Tasmania, the British killed every man, woman and child. In the years of the slave trade, Africa lost, over one hundred million people. For every African captured, three were killed. The Arab slave trade in East Africa that started a thousand years before the European Atlantic slave trade and the Atlantic slave trade that lasted approximately 300 years was a holocaust against African people, which started 500 years ago and is not completely over to this day.

If the four policeman in Los Angeles had been beating a dog instead of Rodney King, they would have been put on trial and convicted. It is time to speak of the Great Holocaust in history. The European holocaust, I repeat, was small in comparison to some of the others.

When Professor Gates refers to me as the paterfamilias of the Afrocentric movement," I'm not too clear about whether this is a compliment or a thinly veiled insult. I did not go to the dictionary to look up the words because I never use dollar words in 25 cents situations. But, as a matter of fact, my interest in African history and world history in general started when I was a Baptist Sunday School teacher in Columbus, Georgia, where I grew to early manhood. I could not find the image of my people in the Bible, so I began the search through the literature of the world until I found them and learned why some people considered it a necessity to leave African people out of the respectful commentary of history. I became active in the old Harlem History Club at the Harlem YMCA soon after arriving in New York City at the age of 18 in 1933.

The study of African history, culture and politics and world history in general has been the all-prevailing passion of my existence. It is something I do, like breathing is something I do.

I think too much fuss has been made of the case of Professor Jeffries who has said nothing that he cannot document. It is too often forgotten that most of the information Professor Jeffries gave on the slave trade was taken from Jewish writers.

The book, The Grandees, by Steven Birmingham, set his search in motion. He read large numbers of documents over and beyond that book, such as more revealing books by Professor Ben-ram Wallace Korn: Jews and Negro Slavery in the Old South 1789-1865, (1961), and The Early Jews of New Orleans, (1969).

The story of Aaron Lopez of Newport, Rhode Island, is too well-known to be retold here. Conrad Muhammad and Kahlid Kahfah are not intellectual cohorts with Professor Jeffries. I doubt if he's met either one of them. Neither one of these men belong to the academic community, nor is either one well read enough to be classified as a scholar. They are mainly Moslem zealots; not too different from zealots of other religions.

I have no argument for or against the Learned Protocols of the Elders of Zion. I have not been able to authenticate it one way or the other. If someone assures me that it is a piece of fiction, I am not prepared to argue.

Professor Gates' complaint about the book, The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews seems without justification. The book is no masterpiece. It is a competent piece of research. The documentation is good. Instead of complaining about the footnotes, Professor Gates should read some of the footnotes and the books they refer to; especially he should read the works of Professor Bertram W. Korn, an able Jewish scholar whose writings about the role of American Jews in the slave trade is most revealing. Professor Gates should also learn that neither Blacks nor Jews can go on forever denouncing every thing that is not in their favor.

Honest sentiment and some very able research in favor of the Jewish people was started in the old Harlem History Club by Willis N. Huggins in the 30s. Some of the best known of these findings were published in the Chicago Defender and in the magazine, The African. The following quote is from Willis N. Huggins' article, "How Wrong is Hitler?...On the History of Jews, Black Folk and 'Aryanism?'" (Chicago Defender, Chicago, January 28, 1939).

When the news broke in the American Press on July 15th that the Italians were ready to go tread "The Aryan Path," it evoked as much laughter as the world may get when news comes from Germany that Max Schmeling has been cast out of the "Aryan Fold" because "anonymous scientists" have discovered that he has a grandfather named Goldberg. "Political Aryanism," according to a prominent Nazi leader, "aims to turn its ire against Jews, Gypsies and the Negro races."

Since Jews are able to take care of their part of this "sentence" and, doubtless, the Gypsy does not give a hoot I should like to summarize the reactions of black folk to the new "Aryan Wave." If we should look at the records we would see that the early Aryan language-groups stemmed from the black Dravidians who occupied southern India in remote times. 'Me two peoples mingled freely. Thus, the so-called Indo-European movements around 2,500 B.C., were basically migrations of a Negroid folk which pooled itself in southern southeastern and southwestern Europe, around 2,000 B.C. Indeed black African races, The Grimaldi" had already covered most of Europe as early as 20,000 B.C. They left a secondary African base for art in ancient Hellas (Greece) and a primary African base for color in Austria, Italy, France, Spain and Portugal.

Willis N. Huggins also wrote a series of articles on the African origin of Adolf Hitler's racist symbols. In my opinion, I think both Blacks and Jews are often arguing about the right thing the wrong way. Jews who lived in slave trading countries participated in the slave trade as citizens of the respective country. Slavery was a business, a dirty business, but still a business. Business people engage in any business where profit can be made. The same thing is true about business people living in colonial countries in relationship to African people. I place no special blame on Jewish people who are white Europeans. I offer no special vindication, either. Their behavior in relationship to non-Europeans is basically the same as other Europeans. The internal difference and difficulties that Jews have had within the White family does not alter or change what I have just said.

What Professor Gates, the Jews and some people referred to as "Black Conservatives" fail to understand is that the African people throughout the world have suffered a special catastrophe over and above that of other people of the world. When Europeans rose in the 15th and 16th century, started the slave trade, colonized history and information about history, they also colonized the image Of God. They took away from millions of people the image of their original God-concept and replaced him or her by a god conceived in Europe. Again, I ask Professor Gates and other Black conservatives to try to understand that for 500 years we have lived in a European-conceived intellectual universe. I am willing to acknowledge that I am influenced by this conception, but I am, at least, at war against it because I realize that it is not only detrimental to my people, it is detrimental to the whole world. Professor Gates and other Black conservatives are the crawling dogs to this new design to continue European world dominance.

Professor Gates is snide in his assumption that "We can rarely bring ourselves to forgive those who have helped us." The truth is the contrary. African people have always over-rewarded those who have helped them, often to their detriment. I wish he would explain the nature of the help and the time it was given. All people that have come among us have taken more than they have given and have eventually done us more harm than good. If you forgive the modesty, I refer you to my pamphlet, Black, White Alliances: A Historical Perspective (Third World Press, Chicago, 1971).

Professor Gates keeps referring to an historical alliance between Blacks and Jews. I wish he would be more precise and say when this historical alliance occurred. I have been a teacher of African World History most of my life and a student of history in general. I know of no evidence indicating such an alliance. The earliest opportunity for a coalition between Blacks and Jews came in 1675 B.C., when an African people called the Egyptians took in the sons and daughters of Abraham, who were fleeing from hunger and starvation in Western Asia. After receiving food, clothing and shelter as well as the foundation for Judaic culture, language and religion, the majority of these a guests" joined the invaders, the Hyksos (or Shepherd Kings) rather than form an alliance to defend the country of their African benefactors. They had found a greater acceptance in Africans than Africans have ever found in a European-dominated country. With this visit to Africa, the people who would later be known as Jews conspicuously entered world history.

Professor Gates, Cornel West and other Black conservatives use beautiful words, sometimes to say nothing, sometimes to say what has already been said and sometimes to say what is not in debate. They display their ignorance of European history and history in general. They decry any form of Black nationalism and often call it racism without knowing that for the last 500 years the world has been controlled by European or White nationalism.

African self-assertion, the demand for a proper curriculum in the schools demand that we stop praising a liar and a faker like Christopher Columbus who discovered absolutely nothing-threatens an apparatus of European control set in motion by the Atlantic slave trade and continued with colonialism that ultimately laid the basis for present-day monopoly capitalism. No matter what Europeans say they believe religiously, politically or culturally, their main objective in the world is control. Everything that has ever been developed in the European mind was meant to facilitate mind control of the world. There are no exceptions, Left or Right politically.

Black conservatives are really frustrated slaves crawling back to the plantation, figuratively, letting their master know that they are willing to go back into bondage. One needs to question their words because, as slaves and enemies of their people, they will say what they are told to say and do what they are told to do. The Black conservatives have nothing to conserve except their miserable obscurity and their tragic cowardice. These pathetically lost creatures and avid White behind kissers don't have the nerve to be African or Black.

To be African or Black with the understanding of all of its ramifications is, in itself, a commitment to the unification and uplift of all African people on the face of this earth. It is a commitment, also, to take Pan-Africanism beyond its narrow base of Black nationalism to a concept of an African world union.

When the real tragedy of Black-Jewish relations is finally identified, I think it will be the dictionary and how we have misused its words. Here is a case where semantics change depending on who is listening and what they are listening for. Your listener will often hear what you did not say and stubbornly ignore what you said. The present controversy around Black and Jewish relations is a good example of a poor and unimaginative use of words.

What exactly do we mean by Black-Jewish relations? From these words we have no way of knowing that there are Blacks who are also Jews, members of the Hebrew faith.

There is a genuine conflict between Black and Jewish people, and this conflict has international implications. We can not deal with this conflict honestly until we call it by its correct name and examine its origin and development. African people the world over have no culture or religious fight with Jewish people. We come out of pluralistic societies, of our own making, where we lived side by side with a multiplicity of cultures and religions, most of the time in peace. Cultural and religious tolerance is part of our heritage as a people. If we were disposed to be against any culture or religion, it would probably not be Jewish culture and religion that had part of its early development in Africa.

Now that I have eliminated culture and religion as the basis of the Black-Jewish conflict, precisely what is the conflict about? It is about power and the emerging expectations of most of the world's people who until recently were mainly ruled by Europeans or people of European extraction.

The one thing the conflict is not about is anti-Semitism. There is a world-wide Black-White conflict which is part of the broader conflict between European and non-European people. African people are on one side of that conflict, and the people we refer to as Jews are on the other side.

When I use the words Jews or Jewish people, I am referring to White people of European descent, whose culture, development and political loyalty is European. This political loyalty to Europe and the part that Jewish people still play in maintaining European world-wide power, and not anti-Semitism, is the basis of the conflict between us. This conflict will become more fierce and tragic as non-European people challenge the power of European people all over the world.

With urgency I invite you to read Yosef A.A. ben-Jochannan's book, We the Black Jews and the book by John G. Jackson, Christianity Before Christ. I believe that Blacks and Jews need a genuine partnership. Before one can be built both of them have to be honest in admitting that they have no partnership now. Figuratively speaking, the partnership between a horse and a rider is neither a partnership or an agreement.

Today the Jews are aligning themselves with the forces of White supremacy that is diametrically opposed to the interest of most of mankind. I think they have made a political mistake of disastrous proportions, and I compare their present political position with the period of Joseph and his brothers in Egypt and the period and time that followed the loss of political connections with the Egyptian Court that Joseph made for them.

And I wonder will their present position lead to another time when a king will arise, figuratively speaking, who politically knew not Joseph.

**Tuff Gong** · 08-02-2009, 01:10 PM

Re: fiyah pon skippee gates

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">diss mekk mii laff

nuh yu wass railinn against michael jackson cah imm wass wan trang blakk man ann yu ave iissue widd blakknesss(tink aff yu shamefull coal black statements bout yu grandmaddar). yu see de reason y mii stranglee defend mj wass cah imm wass a blakk man dat neva sellout soo dat refute yu statement</div></div>

First off I don't know how <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">my Grandma</span> comes into this because I never said I hated her colour.
I was answering to a position that you and Dr. Dumb seems to take, suggesting that somehow <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">I envied or have in the past been envious of persons because of their race/shade or high status in life</span>.

<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Both your record and the record of the Doctor </span>on this Board have shown consistently where you both have come down hard on persons solely because of their race, their status and the perception on both. It is very interesting that he chose to break with you over the Gates case, even going as far as calling you a racist, worse is defending Gates right to live in an exclusively white neighbourhood, <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">explaining that white neighbourhoods are typically better and safer than black ones</span>.

A33 Hole do not try to put words into my mouth and answer them to your satisfaction. You and the likes of the Doctor are the ones who have spent countless years on this board trying to show us that whitey is evil and blacks who act like whitey is worse, which brings me the <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Michelle Jackson argument</span>.

You have not heard me say one word against Michelle Jackson on this Board. I was merely questioning your convenient arguments in favour of a man: <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">who changed his colour, wore funny clothes, slept with little boys, talk effeminate and surrounded himself with a white surrogate family</span>.... something that would typically cause you a**ss hole, to demand Community Tanderds for him/her.

<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Clearly you are a very confused individual</span> that switch harder and faster than San Francisco Trick. The time for your crowning with a Tin Foil Hat and a straight Jacket is long past. You have spent weeks defending Gates, suddenly <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">LackAdgendaReport</span> has found an angle to exploit, now doing your best to eat your s#hit...you are flucking crazy!

**f0rTyLeGz** · 08-02-2009, 02:45 PM

Re: fiyah pon skippee gates

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">awl mii seyinn iss dat skippee ave a lang iistaree aff pandarinn too mzungu soo fii imm fii tink imm can suddenlee becum a leadinn blakk voice pon racism iss annada xxample aff dat wannabee mzungu tryinn fii mislead blakks </div></div>"Pandering to whites." That is really [censored] disgusting! Where are these pandering files?

I guess he was pandering when he was screaming at those cops who arrested him in his own [censored] house?

Or is just having a [censored] job at Harvard "pandering?"

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