Will Massachusetts Vote for Obama?

[RichD]

Re: Will Massachusetts Vote for Obama?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wendilina</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The Dems behave like Republicans too much.

That is what cause the backlash in Mass about.
<span style="font-weight: bold">But as usual the Dems will misinterpret it and loose further</span>.
Incidentally theseat is not for 6 years. more like 3 to 5 years max. since he will serve out the rest of Kennedy,s term</div></div>

I agree whole heartedly... plenty more loses to come

Watching the speech from this guy Scott Brown and hearing the crowd of supporterws mek my stomach churn..Dis is sickning. The political discourse in this countey is very ugly

Goodnight all </div></div>i had to turn it off

[neutral]

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Man,...that place is so f up,looks like instead of uniting the country obama has only served to highlight the deep divisions.

[Nanook]

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How awful. dyam.

[Dr.Dudd]

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As I have been saying too much on here. The educated blacks,and other minorities.
since blacks will be the tip of the spear.
after they get rid of blacks.
then they go on to the next closest colour and keep cleansing until the country is either white of fall apart on its way to getting there.
The educated blacks are too spineless to face the truth.
They are all observing, but to afraid of loosing that which they are going to loose later anyway.
along with their dignity,and rights to be treated as human. They are not willing to fight for equality.
later they will not even be treated as the lessor human beings, they are now treated as.
In the mean while they fight every mention of the reality. As if by denying it it will magically disappear.
The educated has always been used as the weak link to destroy the group.
This was done to the Jews, in Nazi Germany and have been use every time by suppressors.
So this is not unique to the lot.

It is just a shame that they don;t read enough to realize this fact.<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jaded</div><div class="ubbcode-body">it's the one from NJ (some months back) that was scary..talk about coded language </div></div>

[RichD]

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so what are you saying they should have done or should do?

[Boricua_papi]

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Look at the bright side, people. You know, there is no bright side.

[Dr.Dudd]

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What if they did another data swap win? i think it is time to do some real audit.

mean private think tank audit of the accounting of the votes. The dems are too simpleminded.
They just aren't up to snuff.
You can't leave the future of the country, and probably civilization up to the Democraps.
They need adult supervision.
are giving away the store. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nanook</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How awful. dyam. </div></div>

[Dr.Dudd]

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The bright sideis that ther is a vacuum for real smart humanitarians to fill in that party.
I mean smart. Not just good .
Good heart is not enough .
One have to be able to devise ways outsmart this destructive machine.
The machine that is posing as a political party.<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: B_P</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Look at the bright side, people. You know, there is no bright side. </div></div>

[neutral]

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Seems to me the problem goes deeper than race,as an outsider it seems to me there are a lot of ignorance,selfishness and fear.

[Dr.Dudd]

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I am in the middle of it.It is all about race.
These people are not against any giveaway, as long as it is being given to those who they claim deserves it And that is by the nature of their race.
They will complain about anything as long as it has a race other than white.
As a matter fact they are also biased to certain ethnicity within the racial mix too.
It is all about bringing back the 'good old days'.

Those really days what was good to special people. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Natral</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Seems to me the problem goes deeper than race,as an outsider it seems to me there are a lot of ignorance,selfishness and fear. </div></div>

[barosa]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All I know is the Dems need a miracle fi survive 2010 elections. Mista Prez naah gi di people dem nutten fi excited ova. All that happpened here in MA is low DEM turn out.. Tea Party baggers came out in droves..
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Dem really need a miracle fi tru! ~ How could they allow dis fi happ'n? ~ A seat that has remained Democratic for more than 50 yrs and after Kennedy won it going away in a landslide a little over a year ago, was won by a &quot;complete unknown&quot; (nationally speaking). The same can be said for Martha Coakley.

The Dems and Martha did NOT run a good and effective campaign from all indications. They just laid back, not going door to door, depending on the Kennedy name to carry them through while Brown was doing all that and more. One was campaigning while the other did very little or &quot;nada&quot;... Now Poor Obama has to fight for his political life... How could they be so cavalier to make this happen?? Something is not &quot;kosher&quot; in the Democratic camp...
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[Peasie]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: B_P</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Look at the bright side, people. You know, there is no bright side. </div></div>
Well, he once posed for Cosmo Here
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[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Will Massachusetts Vote for Obama?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: barosa</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All I know is the Dems need a miracle fi survive 2010 elections. Mista Prez naah gi di people dem nutten fi excited ova. All that happpened here in MA is low DEM turn out.. Tea Party baggers came out in droves..
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Dem really need a miracle fi tru! ~ How could they allow dis fi happ'n? ~ A seat that has remained Democratic for more than 50 yrs and after Kennedy won it going away in a landslide a little over a year ago, was won by a &quot;complete unknown&quot; (nationally speaking). The same can be said for Martha Coakley.

The Dems and Martha did NOT run a good and effective campaign from all indications. They just laid back, not going door to door, depending on the Kennedy name to carry them through while Brown was doing all that and more. One was campaigning while the other did very little or &quot;nada&quot;... Now Poor Obama has to fight for his political life... How could they be so cavalier to make this happen?? Something is not &quot;kosher&quot; in the Democratic camp...
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&quot;At a time of universal deceit,&quot; wrote George Orwell, &quot;telling the truth is a revolutionary act.&quot;
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All this happen, all because the smart people have left politics, to devious people posing as being smart.
and this is the result
This is an example of the Harvard principle. Where we train managers to create a team, and the team is more what is happening outside
The problem is that the other side, believe in creating the reality.
even if it is far from the facts. By the people realize they have already made their selection.
And later they will create a new reality to cover their faults.
And of-course the people will swallow it again.
An the band keep playing, and the music goes on.

[Dyoll_73]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: barosa</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Dem really need a miracle fi tru! ~ How could they allow dis fi happ'n? ~ A seat that has remained Democratic for more than 50 yrs and after Kennedy won it going away in a landslide a little over a year ago, was won by a &quot;complete unknown&quot; (nationally speaking). The same can be said for Martha Coakley.

The Dems and Martha did NOT run a good and effective campaign from all indications. They just laid back, not going door to door, depending on the Kennedy name to carry them through while Brown was doing all that and more. One was campaigning while the other did very little or &quot;nada&quot;... Now Poor Obama has to fight for his political life... How could they be so cavalier to make this happen?? Something is not &quot;kosher&quot; in the Democratic camp... </div></div>

To see this as simply about Coakley and Scott would be to miss the bigger picture. My sense is that even if she had run a stronger campaign, she still would have lost. This special election was a referendum on centrism, and if the democrats in Congress and Obama fail to recognize this and not correct course in time, it will be a bloodbath come November with the midterm elections.

Take for instance, I hear Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana and Joe Lieberman of CT saying that the democratic party needs to more to the center (read: move to the right), as if the direction of the party was progressive. I'm sure there are others who share this same view, but it would just show how tone deaf the party really is; it would be the entirely wrong lesson to draw from tonight's defeat, and it would surely condemn the party to a possible defeat come November. I bet Harold Ford is now emboldened.

[barosa]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">To see this as simply about Coakley and Scott would be to miss the bigger picture. My sense is that even if she had run a stronger campaign, she still would have lost. <span style="font-weight: bold">This special election was a referendum on centrism, and if the democrats in Congress and Obama fail to recognize this and not correct course in time, it will be a bloodbath come November with the midterm elections.</span>

Take for instance, I hear Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana and Joe Lieberman of CT saying that the democratic party needs to more to the center (read: move to the right), as if the direction of the party was progressive. I'm sure there are others who share this same view, but it would just show how tone deaf the party really is; it would be the entirely wrong lesson to draw from tonight's defeat, and it would surely condemn the party to a possible defeat come November. I bet Harold Ford is now emboldened.</div></div>
Like you, I see Obama as a centrist (maybe slightly left) but I differ with you that he is viewed by the Massachusett's electorate as we view him... ~ I am almost sure that most of them see him as a radical leftist, thanks to propaganda, some from media sources... Just imagine the constant refrain of the &quot;big banks bailouts&quot;, &quot;big spending&quot;, &quot;tax &amp; spend liberals&quot;, a label Reagan successfully used against the Democrats and won a landslide in the '80's. It's obvious that Massachusett was used as a test case against the Dems without them knowing it!

Well, to most right wingers, teabaggers included, he is perceived to be a &quot;socialist&quot; some even called him communist and accused him of brainwashing school children. How luny can these people get? I believe like you that a large percentage of the Mass. voters have used this election as a referendum on Obama. The teabaggers, &quot;conservatives&quot; and anti-Obama forces won the day... You are spot on, by saying, if they fail to realize the danger of &quot;false perceptions&quot; without correcting them, they the Dems are gonna be in big big trouble come November...
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At a time of universal deceit,&quot; wrote George Orwell, &quot;telling the truth is a revolutionary act.&quot;