Jury mek Buju sweat wen dem come bak

[johnnycakes]

Re: Jury mek Buju sweat wen dem come bak

Seveen,
I agree. Yes, there are conspiracies but not EVERYTHING is a conspiracy.

Occam's Razor says that the simplest explanation is most often the correct explanation and because Buju Banton is popular many of his fans do not want to believe he might be as stupid and guilty as he appears to be.

There is a thing in Jamaica that (as an outsider) I have noticed and it is the willingness of Jamaicans to believe rumors and stories that have a very, very small base in fact or possibility but which create the thought of conspiracy. The story then goes around and around by word of mouth and gets embellished with even more things that while sounding possible or plausible are also just unbased rumor.

People who are musicians and who get popular /famous often lose track of reality, think that they are really someone special and outside normal constraints and think they can do and get away with things that a working stiff would never attempt.

It often has to do with the huge egos stars have that while necessary for them to function as bigger-than-life celebrities also often makes them act and do things they would never do otherwise.

This also carries over into politics and people like Mubarak and Qadaffi who rule for so long in a totalitarian and unquestioned way that they too lose sight of reality and exist in a world surrounded by unquestioning supporters that takes them away from normalcy and societal pressures to conform..

[Suesumba]

Re: Buju Banton has been found guilty on three cou

thank you SiMI

one time this guy comes up to me asking me if i have "brain food" or some stuff like that, so i offered to go to my place and bring him a sandwich. till him talk and talk and a ask me for weed. soh mi cuss him and ask him if a every black smaddy a drug dealer. he kinda looked coppish too, especially i live on the outskirts of crack towers, ganga university and meth parks. and they're always doing drug/prostitution sweeps.

[SmoothOperator]

Re: Jury mek Buju sweat wen dem come bak

The bottom line of the story is this. If you can't do the time don't do the crime and this story is a lesson about taking personal responsibility for ones actions. Buju a keep up long conversation with drugs man and have him pon speed dial and den him a say in him defense is just Buju trash talking. Buju caught pon tape tasting drugs and declaring it fish scale - oh that was more trash talk done to impress other people. Ian Thomas the other dude who pled guilty is reportedly Buju friend from long time and is reportedly a known dealer. Yes this one may have been a setup but is not the first time Buju get himself mixup, just the first time him get caught doing the deed. If him neva did mix up to begin and was living righteously the trap would not have been set for him in the first place and he certainly would not have fell for it. Hopefully other people will look at this story and steer clear from trouble.

[X]

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our blind, popularist, support for people we "admire" is amazing (and worrisome)..

How is it that when all other artiste, when asked (for example) "Why is your lyrics so graphic", or "dramatic" or "voilent" The acceptable answer is "we write and sing about our experience.. we sing what we live"

Now Gargamel did "Mouly arm" (infront of Mandella mind you) We booed him..
He wheeled and come back with "Browning".. while that made many of the lighter shade "walk pon snow" in Ja, the more pigmented lashed out..
So he countered with "Black Woman", to many applause..
Years later , a more concious, now exposed and obviously accepting Rasta put out Til Shiloh, with messages like Untold Stories, Murderer, Til I’m Laid to Rest, Champion, etc..…,
Mr. Myrie went quite, then came out with “DRIVER”..
While I count myself amoung the Buju Banton’s millions of fans (for his work)..
Consider the above, consider how destructive drugs is to families, directly and indirectly… then watch the video below, then ask yourself, if you were a juror, how would you find Mr. Mark Myrie..

<span style="font-style: italic"> [Intro:]
I waan yuh carry this round di road fah mi
And don't tek nuh talk from nobody
Just do weh mi tell yuh fi do seen star
And mek sure everyting work according to how man seh everyting fi work seen
Tek back yuhself and bring back yuhself inna one peace
Mek sure seh yuh reach, hear mi
Lawd a mercy, hey, lawd a miss mercy, lawd a mercy

[Chorus:]
Driver, don't stop at all, drop this Arizona round a Alba Mall
Driver, don't even hitch, collect dat likkle food deh yah and come back quick
Driver, just rememba di damn speed limit
Cau if yuh, run in di Feds my friend dat is it

[Verse 1:]
I got a Nextel phone and I'll send yuh di chip
Any problem yuh can reach mi pon this
<span style="font-weight: bold">A pounds dem a buy when a tons dem a ship
Green like grass brown like chocolate
Fed Ex or UPS a mek several trips
All mi life savings a ride pon this</span>
Yuh can, drink a beer but don't yuh dare bun a spliff
Di scent a di marijuana mek yuh life uplift
Even though it compress and tie inna plastic
Don't deliver it a go end up drastic
A barrel gun mi buss and mi yuh know it caan stick
Mi waan change mi zinc and put up deh chrome stick
Tired fi sip Red Bull a straight Hypnotic

</span>
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[jah_yout]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SueSumba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">not once has a black person ever been complicit in their own wrongdoings. </div></div>


more of your nonsense....
that is a silly statement;

but it would do you some good to study the history of the fbi &amp; cia against black leaders such as malcolm x &amp; martin luther king;

also know that they convicted &amp; locked up america's first heavyweight champion jack johnson with an unjust law they had on the books which sen. john mccain is currently trying to have posthumously pardoned...
just know that bigger heads had martin luther king killed &amp; john kennedy too...

no one is saying buju is mlk...but ask yourself why the gov't went to such great lengths to get this man off the street...by any means necessary...
not saying buju is a saint but one must look beneath the surface

[RichD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[
no one is saying buju is mlk...but ask yourself why the gov't went to such great lengths to get this man off the street...by any means necessary...
not saying buju is a saint but one must look beneath the surface </div></div>

why didn't they just deny him a visa if they have such deep reaching power?

[jah_yout]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">our blind, popularist, support for people we &quot;admire&quot; is amazing (and worrisome)..</div></div>


does that include your support for obama?
what is more worrisome to me is the quickness to kill off our own whenever some foreign power swoops in (just like brucie g);

i hold buju's actions in contempt (although tasting coke in a warehouse that the gov't set up is no crime in my eyes) -- but i am far more contemptuous of a force that would deliberately try to create a crime case by hiring criminals to carry out their work based on a vendetta against an individual...

and by the way &quot;Driver A&quot; is speaking about herb suh how yuh come a mix up coke ting inna dis?....
are you gonna build a case against obama because he used to snort coke?

[jah_yout]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[
no one is saying buju is mlk...but ask yourself why the gov't went to such great lengths to get this man off the street...by any means necessary...
not saying buju is a saint but one must look beneath the surface </div></div>

why didn't they just deny him a visa if they have such deep reaching power? </div></div>

why deny him a visa when it would be far easier to catch him here in the belly of the beast than in jamaica?

and are you really asking if they have far-reaching powers when you saw how many jamaicans were massacred the other day because america wanted dudus coke?

[RichD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
and are you really asking if they have far-reaching powers when you saw how many jamaicans were massacred the other day because america wanted dudus coke? </div></div>

so the last time they massacred tivoli residents that was decreed by the Americans ..what about the time before that?

[jah_yout]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
and are you really asking if they have far-reaching powers when you saw how many jamaicans were massacred the other day because america wanted dudus coke? </div></div>

so the last time they massacred tivoli residents that was decreed by the Americans ..what about the time before that? </div></div>


answer your own question:

time before that was how many dead?

time when uncle sam said move...how many dead?

which force resulted in greater carnage?

i don't think you can even compare the two operations....

more people died in jamaica than in egypt but jamaicans are drug dealers &amp; users in the eyes of american law enforcement so no big deal;

the jamaican dead seem to have been forgotten by their supposed compatriots...

and this was because dudus gave services which the corrupt dependent gov't could or would not...

[RichD]

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the first time was 5 the second time was 27

btw where did this come from? &quot; more people died in jamaica than in egypt&quot;


you are saying that they cannot be compared because they do not fit your narrative

[X]

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Apples n Oranges..
While I try to respect everyones opions here, how can one compare the support for a black man becoming the President of the United States of America, the leader of the free world, to suport for an artise caught on tape negociating the shipment of drugs??

Thats like catching your woman in bed with Joe Grine drawing his 14th gear betwix the legs.. yet when you express your &quot;dissapointment&quot; she retorts &quot;how dare you not support me having Joe rearrange my kidneys, when I forgave you for busting the budget on beers just last week!&quot;

I guess my expectations of a realistic discussion is misplaced.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">our blind, popularist, support for people we &quot;admire&quot; is amazing (and worrisome)..</div></div>

<span style="font-weight: bold">
does that include your support for obama?</span>what is more worrisome to me is the quickness to kill off our own whenever some foreign power swoops in (just like brucie g);

i hold buju's actions in contempt (although tasting coke in a warehouse that the gov't set up is no crime in my eyes) -- but i am far more contemptuous of a force that would deliberately try to create a crime case by hiring criminals to carry out their work based on a vendetta against an individual...

and by the way &quot;Driver A&quot; is speaking about herb suh how yuh come a mix up coke ting inna dis?....
are you gonna build a case against obama because he used to snort coke?
</div></div>

[X]

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PS. Buju's Taxi is as much about &quot;HERB&quot; as Ceelo Green's &quot;F-- You&quot; is about &quot;Forgetting&quot; you..
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[Gen]

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Because we have an operative in jail down there and the US hoping they can do an exchange


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[
no one is saying buju is mlk...but ask yourself why the gov't went to such great lengths to get this man off the street...by any means necessary...
not saying buju is a saint but one must look beneath the surface </div></div>

why didn't they just deny him a visa if they have such deep reaching power? </div></div>

[Xavier]

Re: Jury mek Buju sweat wen dem come bak

An associate attorney has provided us with information on the sentencing. The article is posted on the front page of the site.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Legal Summary of the Mandatory Sentencing Buju Baton may be facing.</span>
<span style="font-style: italic">By Danielle Bullock </span>

On February 22, 2011 Buju Banton (real name Mark Myrie) was found guilty by a federal jury in Tampa, Florida of conspiracy to possess with the intent to distribute cocaine, possession of a firearm in furtherance of a drug trafficking offense and using a telephone to facilitate a drug trafficking offense. He was acquitted of a fourth charge which was attempted possession with the intent to distribute cocaine.

The minimum mandatory sentence for conspiracy to possess with the intent to distribute cocaine is ten (10) years. See the rest of article here : Legal Summary of the Mandatory Sentencing Buju Baton may be facing.