stand your ground when you feel threatened by loud music

[Tropicana]

In NONE of these situations where the teens got killed did they "surround anyone in a threatening manner". In one case the young man was walking to his father's house. In the other the kids were in a car with music too loud. So stop making things up to justify your racism.

If one were to search on my username, it would be discovered that I normally hung out over in the tech forum. With the new software update, it is easier to see the rest of the posts as they appear.

Well perhaps you should go back their where your attempts to justify racist and violent attacks against unarmed Black people are likely to be welcome. They are not welcome here.

[lonewolf]

Notice there are no cases of unarmed white people being killed by other white people because they felt "threatened". How come stand your grown always involves a White person killing an unarmed Black person?

You just don't get it. White people killing other white people in a similiar situation is not news worthy and it happens more often than you think. It's simply not reported to the national news. A white against black crime gets the race hustlers and the media all lathered up, because it makes a good story. Don't you see the pattern?

There have been two black kids killed by two white people in a course of a year? Everyday in the US young black men are killing each other at record numbers, but you ignore this fact and focus on two very unusual circumstances? Why?

[lonewolf]

In NONE of these situations where the teens got killed did they "surround anyone in a threatening manner". In one case the young man was walking to his father's house. In the other the kids were in a car with music too loud. So stop making things up to justify your racism.



Well perhaps you should go back their where your attempts to justify racist and violent attacks against unarmed Black people are likely to be welcome. They are not welcome here.

So, no ones opinion is welcome unless it agrees with yours? And who died and left you in control of Jamaicans.com?

[Tropicana]

So, no ones opinion is welcome unless it agrees with yours? And who died and left you in control of Jamaicans.com?

Has nothing to do with ideas that are different or Jamaicans.com. You constantly express ideas that reveal a dislike of Black people so why are you hanging out on a site where most of the members are Black. What would make you think your ideas would be appreciated?

[lonewolf]

Really? No cases? Not sure where you getting your information, but crime has no race. Criminals are all colors. If the victim is armed, I assure you that they will protect themselves. Hang around the firearm forums and your eyes may be opened to everyday interactions where a firearm prevented a violent crime. My girlfriend was as naïve as some of the people that think gun laws will help. A few recent incidents pointed out to her that crime waits for no one. All of these occured within a mile of her supposedly 'safe' area. She now knows how to fire a gun and hit a stationary target. Next is moving targets. One step at a time.

Curious as to why you and Lornwolf come here when you clearly can't stand Black people. Who knows, maybe you are the same person hiding behind 2 different profiles. You are never here at the same time and your views are identical.

DWL Congratulations LinSkinny, it only took you four postings on this topic, and you are thought of as not liking black people... and now you are labled as a racist.

Welcome to the real world of black and white relations. Did you notice how the paranoia set in? Trop just could not believe that there are actually two people that look at this logically, with out hysteria, and are not colored blind to the truth. This reality evidently short circuited her brain...Yep, those with the brainwashed minds of higher liberal learning, just can't face the fact, that some people can think for themselves, and that their opinion may differ from hers...go figure?

[lonewolf]

Has nothing to do with ideas that are different or Jamaicans.com. You constantly express ideas that reveal a dislike of Black people so why are you hanging out on a site where most of the members are Black. What would make you think your ideas would be appreciated?

No, that's your interpretation. Why are you intolerant of someone with a different perspective? I'm simply adding my two cents as a white person, on controversial black and white issues, I've never posted any information where my opinion can not be substantiated by facts. Would you rather I dance around these issues and tell you what you want to here? Would you rather it be an all black forum where everyone is in agreement? Wow! How interesting...Ya know, the issues may be tough, but why can't we discuss them in an adult like matter without name calling and accusations? I'm giving you my opinion based on my thoughts as I see them through my eyes and experiences, and I'm sure you are doing the same. There's really no harm in that. Maybe we learn somethings about each other, somethings we may like, and others we may not.

[Tropicana]

I am not intolerant of different points of view but anyone who is going to find excuses for people who shoot unarmed Black young people is very dangerous and I will always lick out 'gainst dat.

[LinSkinny]

In NONE of these situations where the teens got killed did they "surround anyone in a threatening manner". In one case the young man was walking to his father's house. In the other the kids were in a car with music too loud. So stop making things up to justify your racism.

Well, I still don't have an answer to a respectfully asked question. The question was avoided again. BTW, my ex of almost 20 years was black Jamaican, so that refutes the racism claim. Several male friends that I've known since college and can depend on (as they can depend on me,) are also black Jamaican, so your racism claim is UNsupported by facts again.

Well perhaps you should go back their where your attempts to justify racist and violent attacks against unarmed Black people are likely to be welcome. They are not welcome here.

Ouch! Why is it on any forum, including this one, when facts are respectfully submitted, some people resort to personal attacks? I guess Witchy is also racist because that user agreed with another opinion of mine. So the challenge is still there.

Emotional opinion and/or response is showing over logic and known public facts. Experience is a wonderful teacher. Feel free to continue with the personal attacks. (Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words...)

Oh BTW, there is another white on white shooting case...I have plenty more if you want to continue down that road.
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This is about where I point out, I'm attempting (keyword) to have a civil discussion with regards to controversial cases. It seems you have also seen inside information that others have not seen, so both Zimmerman and the other dude have already been convicted in your eyes because they are "racist." My view is that none of those two cases have made it trial yet and we still have not seen all the evidence. Therefore, I have no view to either convict or acquit either of them. I have already stated that even with a jury of peers, the court system can still get convictions wrong. If you want to have a proper and civil discussion, feel free to continue in a civil fashion without the personal attacks, otherwise, this is where I bow out.

[LinSkinny]

Lonewolf, I hear ya, I hear ya. We can spew know public facts until we are blue in the face, but sometimes that isn't enough.

Next ting, we get blame seh we a twin.

[Tropicana]

Facts is that what you call it? You have an agenda to justify and provide excuses for unprovoked violence against black young people. I am convinced you are the same person. You have never appeared at the same time until I pointed out that you never do. It's laughable.

Be careful. Karma is a female dog. How would you like it if something like that happened to one of your relatives?

When we fail to speak out against injustice we sow the seeds of our own destruction. This is instructive.

First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.

[lonewolf]

I am not intolerant of different points of view but anyone who is going to find excuses for people who shoot unarmed Black young people is very dangerous and I will always lick out 'gainst dat.

Trop, I'm not sure if that is meant for me, or LinSkinny, but where did I make excuses for people who shoot unarmed people? I didn't do that, and nor will I ever do that. My point was in reference to how many young black men are killed on a regular basis by other young black men in the USA without as much of a peep, as it pertains to being a topic of conversation. But let one white person kill a black person, and things get real ugly around here as it relates to white people in general... I mean Blu spouting off nonsense about how all white people are racist? Does that seems fair?

[Tropicana]

Trop, I'm not sure if that is meant for me, or LinSkinny, but where did I make excuses for people who shoot unarmed people?

Statements like even the one that you have made here:

I didn't do that, and nor will I ever do that. My point was in reference to how many young black men are killed on a regular basis by other young black men in the USA without as much of a peep, as it pertains to being a topic of conversation. But let one white person kill a black person

Comments like that come across like "Why are you guys making such a fuss about one White person killing a Black person. The issue of Black on Black crime has been discussed ad naseum on African American sites. We have certainly discussed violence in Jamaica and in the Jamaican community on this site REPEATEDLY!!

and things get real ugly around here as it relates to white people in general...

I mean Blu spouting off nonsense about how all white people are racist? Does that seems fair?

Who has EVER put down White people in general on here? Even if someone wanted to do it, the moderators would never tolerate it. Blu has licked out against specific issues. I have made fun of the hillbilily and hick types who have nothing going for them and yet have the never to think they are better than Black people.

I have also made no secret about my disgust with many Caucasian men who are obsessed with blondes and would never even consider dating a Black woman.... especially those who profess to be Christians.

No one on here has every justified violence against White people or made comments like you to to the effect of "With all the people dying in (whatever the latest war happens to be), what is all the fuss about White people dying at _______ " (fill in the blanks with whatever the latest tragedy happens to be). No one would ever be that insensitive.

When a White child is killed, non one on here would ever be so insensitive as to make the types of comments you make. Yet you and LilSkinny (and I am convinced you are both the same person) constantly show GROSS insensitivity when an innocent black person is killed. To that I take exception. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[LinSkinny]

Yet you and LilSkinny (and I am convinced you are both the same person) constantly show GROSS insensitivity when an innocent black person is killed. To that I take exception. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Gross insensitivity? How am I showing insensitivity by stating that white on white crime occurs also. How am I showing insensitivity by showing proof that black on white crime occurs also or vice versa. How am I showing insensitivity by stating that we do not have all the facts in either of the two controversial cases mentioned.

And show me proof via a quote where I have to "provide excuses for unprovoked violence against black young people." Seriously? The question still hasn't been answered either and I doubt it will be as it is easier to call me a racist, and duplicate user.

[Tropicana]

There is a time and place for everything. When a young person has been murdered in an unprovoked attack it is not the time to say Oh Black on Black crime is high. This is just as insensitive as the Sheikh who pointed out that the USA needs to change it's foreign policy to the Middle East right after donating $1 million to the fund to assist 9/11 victims. Time, place, sensitivity, and tact are clearly lessons you need to learn.

[lonewolf]

I have also made no secret about my disgust with many Caucasian men who are obsessed with blondes and would never even consider dating a Black woman.... especially those who profess to be Christians.

I'm perplexed on how I'm supposed respond? Uhh, me thinks you have issues. This is not an educated thought, but an emotional outburst. Why would you bother yourself with such nonsense? There must have been a caucasian man that rejected you?

Do you need a hug? That probalby wouldn't work because I'm a caucasian male, and to make matters worse I'm a caucasian male with blonde hair. That would probably just sink you deeper into further psychosis

When a White child is killed, non one on here would ever be so insensitive as to make the types of comments you make. Yet you and LilSkinny (and I am convinced you are both the same person) constantly show GROSS insensitivity when an innocent black person is killed. To that I take exception. You should be ashamed of yourself.

You have taken things and twisted them so out of proportion that I just don't know where to begin...So, I won't.
Nope, I don't think, but I am now certain that you have issues.

Wow! Please, get yourself some much needed help.