17-year-old Transgender Murdered in Jamaica: Hated to Death

[RichD]

i think the buggery act cover oral sex too.

[My Looh]

i think the buggery act cover oral sex too.

So it is illegal for a woman to perform oral sex on a man in Jamaica?

Edited to add.....

[Tuff Gong]

You can't be serious.

Look what de chi-chi bwoy did was wrong but, he did not commit any act that is illegal...highly deceptive yes but not illegal. He did not even go as far as the guy did in the movie The Crying Game. Have you seen it? Even though homosexuality is illegal in Jamaica, the punishment is not death.

Inelegantly stated, but even a busted clock is correct twice in 24 hours.
It is a shame your friend cannot see that his acceptance of so-called community tandards, is uncivilized and threat to entirety if Jamaica.
BTW Homosexuality is not illegal in Jamaica.

[My Looh]

I found the following in an old Gleaner article.....

"The Offences Against the Person Act prohibits "acts of gross indecency" (generally meaning that a person can be charged for exposing oneself or for engaging in sexual intercourse in public). Then there is the offence called buggery, which falls under Section 76 of that Act and is defined as anal intercourse between a man and a woman, or between two men."

So anal sex between a man and another man or a man and a woman is against the law.

[Tuff Gong]

I found the following in an old Gleaner article.....

"The Offences Against the Person Act prohibits "acts of gross indecency" (generally meaning that a person can be charged for exposing oneself or for engaging in sexual intercourse in public).

Buggery is illegal but not homosexuality (a relation between same sexes, which may or may not involve a certain type of intercourse).
It is one reason why I keep wordering why Gays are so fixated on the Buggery Law and why straight folks are so fixated with Gay as a relationship, since the laws to protect public decency is adequate for gays and straight people.

[Tropicana]

Section 76 of that act makes it an offence for two men to be engaged in sexual activities.The maximum sentence is 10 years' imprisonment.
Section 77 forbids such sexual acts for which the maximum sentence is seven years, while Section 79 of the act forbids gross indecency between men, for which the maximum sentence is two years.

http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20130526/news/news11.html

Offences Against the Person Act (OAPA) :

Section 76. Unnatural crime. Whosoever shall be convicted of the abominable crime of buggery ... shall be liable to be imprisoned and kept to hard labour for a term not exceeding ten years.

Section 77. Attempt. Whosoever shall attempt to commit the said abominable crime, or shall be guilty of any assault with intent to commit the same, or of any indecent assault upon any male person, shall be guilty of a misdemeanour, and being convicted thereof, shall be liable to be imprisoned for a term not exceeding seven years, with or without hard labour.

Section 79. Outrages on decency. Any male person who, in public or private, commits, or is a party to the commission of, or procures or attempts to procure the commission by any male person of, any act of gross indecency with another male person, shall be guilty of a misdemeanour, and being convicted thereof shall be liable at the discretion of the court to be imprisoned for a term not exceeding two years, with or without hard labour.

[Tuff Gong]

http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/2...ws/news11.html. Any male person who, in public or private, commits, or is a party to the commission of, or procures or attempts to procure the commission by any male person of, any act of gross indecency with another male person, shall be guilty of a misdemeanour, and being convicted thereof shall be liable at the discretion of the court to be imprisoned for a term not exceeding two years, with or without hard labour.

I am assuming this is to say that being a homosexual in Jamaica is illegal? If is was not I apologize already.
My reading is being an homosexual or straight person does not mean a sexual act. You can be either and abstain from sexual acts.
Gross indecency means some form of sexual act. I don't know that kissing is a gross indecency.
There is no history of the State of Jamaica entering into the bedrooms of Gays or Straight folks to see what they are doing. Although the Act puts a burden on a person who is Party to Gross Indecency, but so does the laws covering Straight folks actions.

My conclusion is the Buggery Act does not in any way shape or form makes Homosexuality in Jamaica illegal.

[blugiant]

I always heard the buggery is illegal, not actual homosexuality.

Perhaps I'm wrong but I don't think so.

buggery
Pronunciation: /ˈbʌgəri/
noun
[mass noun]
1anal intercourse. In law the term also covers bestiality.
2British vulgar slang used in various expressions as an intensifier.

So anal intercourse is what is illegal, no matter if that is with another man, woman or beast.

mii widd da jamaicans dat waan fe mekk homosexualitee illegal in jamaica by changinn da laws. too much funnee bigg men a apparate behinds dem politrixxstahs

[blugiant]

You can't be serious.

Look what de chi-chi bwoy did was wrong but, he did not commit any act that is illegal...highly deceptive yes but not illegal. He did not even go as far as the guy did in the movie The Crying Game. Have you seen it? Even though homosexuality is illegal in Jamaica, the punishment is not death.

no. iff mii see annee funnee ting in movies ar pon tv mii leave ar change da channel. neva saw cryinn game ann tank fe tellinn mii itt a funnee movie. da argument iss dat de punishment neva fit da crime. tropi iff da communitee decided fe do wat dem didd chi chi to rapists wood yuh object ann do yuh tink itt wood be a deterrent to rapists. unwanted touchinn ann rubbinn up against sum wan iss assualt

[blugiant]

Inelegantly stated, but even a busted clock is correct twice in 24 hours.
It is a shame your friend cannot see that his acceptance of so-called community tandards, is uncivilized and threat to entirety if Jamaica.
BTW Homosexuality is not illegal in Jamaica.

diss mekk mii laff

babylon asked jamaicans fe communitee support to help reduce crime den babylon tunn rund ann try fe criminalized wen da communitee enforce da communitee tandards by cawlinn itt jungle justice. babylon juss tryinn fe monopolized da rite punish criminals.

ave yuh read bout john daughtrey, general inspector of prisons in ja aftah slaveree woo sed imm goal was fe bring jamaicans up to da tandards aff oyinbo. plus oyinbo b. shaw, general inspector of prisons inn ja yuh woo racist views aff jamaicans mirror yuh. kno da histaree ann ovatand da oyinbo racism yuh spewinn

[blugiant]

Buggery is illegal but not homosexuality (a relation between same sexes, which may or may not involve a certain type of intercourse).
It is one reason why I keep wordering why Gays are so fixated on the Buggery Law and why straight folks are so fixated with Gay as a relationship, since the laws to protect public decency is adequate for gays and straight people.

diss mekk mii laff

yuh seyinn da laws to protect public decency is adequate fe homosexuals ann narmal peeps wen funnee man tink itt okay fe go dance dress upp as oomen fe fool heterosexual men.

awl mii seyinn funnee peeps inn jamaica will tink twice fore dem try dem funnee nunsense so da communitee enforcinn da communitee tandards iss deterence

[Tropicana]

no. iff mii see annee funnee ting in movies ar pon tv mii leave ar change da channel. neva saw cryinn game ann tank fe tellinn mii itt a funnee movie.

Yes it was shocking that the gorgeous Black woman (played by Jaye Davidson) who all the men were lusting after was a man.



The audience found out at the same time as the guy in the movie she was dating. It was a total....

da argument iss dat de punishment neva fit da crime. tropi iff da communitee decided fe do wat dem didd chi chi to rapists wood yuh object

Yes I would object. That is barbaric behaviour.

ann do yuh tink itt wood be a deterrent to rapists. unwanted touchinn ann rubbinn up against sum wan iss assualt

No I don't think it would be a deterrent. People who engage in degenerate behaviour will always find a way to do it.....unfortunately.

[blugiant]

Yes I would object. That is barbaric behaviour.




No I don't think it would be a deterrent. People who engage in degenerate behaviour will always find a way to do it.....unfortunately.

inn dat case tropi yu cawlinn mii barbaric woo engaged in degenerate behavior.

wen mii was 13 earlee wan mawninn fore moas was awake mii heard wan loud blood curlinn scream fallow by wan christian ladee bawlinn out rape. run to da gate ann mii saw da naked ooman screaminn. ar rapist told ar fe shut upp butt she kept screaminn so imm stabbed ar wi imm bigg knife. mii tekk sum stones ann licked imm inna imm head. dem mii tart fe stone imm. ar scream woke upp sum peeps ann sum aff dem draw dem lass. yuh shood ave see da sparked flyinn wen dem chased dunn ann ketch da dutty rapists. rapist gott nuff thumps, licks, kicks ann ticks. dem leff imm widd lieinn pon da street bleedinn ann widd permanent limp ann no teeth. doan know oww dat rapist survived cah babylon neva cum till owa later. bett yuh imm neva rape again. da communitee enforced itt standards ann mii bett yuh iff more jamaicans did dat deer wood be less rape. communitee tandards iss a deterence.

da ooman thank mii ann awlway cawl mii ar hero. so iff dat barbaric ann degenerate behaviors well woo doan like itt kno wey dem can do

[Tropicana]

inn dat case tropi yu cawlinn mii barbaric woo engaged in degenerate behavior.

I am not calling you barbaric...I am referring to the behaviour as barbaric.

I agree with you that homosexuality is degenerate behaviour. I'm not disagreeing with you on that.

wen mii was 13 earlee wan mawninn fore moas was awake mii heard wan loud blood curlinn scream fallow by wan christian ladee bawlinn out rape. run to da gate ann mii saw da naked ooman screaminn. ar rapist told ar fe shut upp butt she kept screaminn so imm stabbed ar wi imm bigg knife. mii tekk sum stones ann licked imm inna imm head. dem mii tart fe stone imm. ar scream woke upp sum peeps ann sum aff dem draw dem lass. yuh shood ave see da sparked flyinn wen dem chased dunn ann ketch da dutty rapists. rapist gott nuff thumps, licks, kicks ann ticks. dem leff imm widd lieinn pon da street bleedinn ann widd permanent limp ann no teeth. doan know oww dat rapist survived cah babylon neva cum till owa later. bett yuh imm neva rape again. da communitee enforced itt standards ann mii bett yuh iff more jamaicans did dat deer wood be less rape. communitee tandards iss a deterence.

da ooman thank mii ann awlway cawl mii ar hero. so iff dat barbaric ann degenerate behaviors well woo doan like itt kno wey dem can do

Definitely the man had to be stopped but he should have been stopped and restrained until police came. No need to beat him senseless.

[Peasie]

Meanwhile in today's news about community standards ...
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'Jane Doe', 13, was a happy and bright child who was well-focused and excelling at her school work.

But all that changed one Friday evening in November 2011, when she was taken away, raped and left in a bloody mess by a member of a popular gang in St Catherine.

Now, two years later, the perpetrator, known to everyone in the community in which the incident took place and where the child resided, walks the streets a free man, much to the disgust of the family.
"It is really hurtful that from 2011 until now, nothing has come of it," the victim's sister told the Jamaica Observer on condition of anonymity. This, she explained, is because of fear of reprisal by members of the renowned gang.

Since the incident, Doe, whose name has been changed to protect her, has been withdrawn, while her school work has fallen below its usual standard.

But worst of all, the jeers from community members that she wanted it, or that she was in a relationship with the perpetrator, have forced Doe's family to move her out of the community and from the school that she attended.

"People in the community would mock her anytime she walk past, saying is she give it away and is not rape she get. People saying is give she go give it away and the man penis too big and those hurtful stuff. It's like they trying to protect the person," the victim's sibling said in disgust. "So those things got to her and we had to remove her from the community."

However, the accused stills goes about his usual affairs, untouched by the law.

.... The rest of the story http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/...ictim_14763615