Jamaican allegedly among terrorist BOMBERS in London

[britisha]

Re: Jamaican allegedly among terrorist BOMBERS in London

Originally posted by pattyk:
[QB] Britisha, as you can see there are quite a few apologists for the actions of terrorists. Wait until one of their own family members die because of such actions and then they will sing a different song.

Indeed!!

I've noted the other comments but the gist of this thread is not to give a litany of who did what, when or where, for trust me we would be here until "thy Kingdom come" trying to dissect and connect who threw the first stone..K?

All your opinions to which you are entitled are valued, but the main theme of this is a Jamaican has been listed among them, jolting many of us into disbelief.

[britisha]

Re: Jamaican allegedly among terrorist BOMBERS in London

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Simply_Black:

The answer is NO!!! The main reason is that the memory of slavery is not fresh in the minds of people living on this earth and that black people are not suffering from the oppression and brutality of slavery in the year 2005, so that's a very weak point.

Weak point that you might regard it, how do you explain that Native Americans aren't going around throwing bombs to reclaim their land, ie NORTH AMERICA..which includes Ca-naada..? Aren't they still suffering the injustices today?

However when the issue of slavery was alive and us black people were still in chains, the rebellions, uprisings, killings and fights that occured in order to protest against slavery and the slave masters were many in numbers, so if you wish to draw a paralell in this isssue then I am sure that you can see what resentment pain and suffering to others can breed amongst those who not only suffer directly from it but also have loved ones who directly suffer from it.

..and you don't think that black people are still suffering indirectly from slavery? Take a closer look at Haiti, think of the word "France." K?

Why aren't there any uprisings against the Muslims who are murdering black Africans in the Sudan? Why not?

Let all the people who want to condemn continue to condemn, yes, that needs to be done but what also really needs to be immediately paid attention to is the root cause for the terrorist activities to continue around the world and the blood of the innocent being shed. Until then all the condemning will do nothing to help stop this madness.

Now black ppl have a root cause due to what is happening in the Sudan as an example and continues to happen in Haiti..when do we begin to throw bombs at the aggressors or even be willing to die in the execution of such? Who will lead the pack?

Root cause or no root cause, the wanton murdering of innocent men, women and children, blowing up buildings isn't going to cut it..we have centuries of atrocitties committed by almost every Tom, Dick and Harry, by your argument, and this is not to minimise what you've stated....there will be centuries more of bombings before some peaceful resolution can be attained..and then agen, this is not the theme of this thread..tks..

[bobby_65]

Re: Jamaican allegedly among terrorist BOMBERS in London

[/QUOTE]Weak point that you might regard it, how do you explain that Native Americans aren't going around throwing bombs to reclaim their land, ie NORTH AMERICA..which includes Ca-naada..? Aren't they still suffering the injustices today? [QUOTE]

NO they are not suffering the same injustices TODAY!!!!....The Native Americans are not being bombed daily and dying innocently in their thousands through carpet bombings and trade restrictions ( like the years that were implemented on Iraq ). The Native Americans have the freedom of movement unlike the Palestinians....The Native Americans are NOT living with the threat of allied bombs dropping down on their villages and towns and wiping out whole families unlike many of the familes in Iraq towns and cities....Once again I fail to see the comparison. We live in the present NOT in the past and the issues that are causing the resentment to create terrorist are very much in the present and occuring each day!!!!.....Are you failing to understand the main reasons why the terrorist thrive and breed?

[cris]

Re: Jamaican allegedly among terrorist BOMBERS in London

Originally posted by Simply_Black:
No one is being an apologist for terrorist here!!! Let's face reality if governments really want to stop innocent people being killed in terrorist activities then they have to address all reasons why people become terrorist. It's easy to condemnn the terrorists but much harder to stop them doing it again, the real problems have to be addressed by the powers that be otherwise more innocent people will die unecessarily at the hands of the mad and crazy few. Everyone is willing to sit and condemn but very few are really trying to stop the deep rooted causes that breed the hatred and resentment that create the atmosphere for the terrorist to thrive in. [/QB]

the real problems have to be addressed by the powers that be otherwise more innocent people will die unecessarily at the hands of the mad and crazy few.


Please do tell. What are the "real problems" that should be addressed? and who should be addressing them?

[cris]

Re: Jamaican allegedly among terrorist BOMBERS in London

Originally posted by Simply_Black:
.....Are you failing to understand the main reasons why the terrorist thrive and breed? [/QB]

Yes..waiting to hear what they are

[britisha]

Re: Jamaican allegedly among terrorist BOMBERS in London

Originally posted by Simply_Black:
[qb]

Weak point that you might regard it, how do you explain that Native Americans aren't going around throwing bombs to reclaim their land, ie NORTH AMERICA..which includes Ca-naada..? Aren't they still suffering the injustices today?

NO they are not suffering the same injustices TODAY!!!!....The Native Americans are not being bombed daily and dying innocently in their thousands through carpet bombings and trade restrictions ( like the years that were implemented on Iraq ). The Native Americans have the freedom of movement unlike the Palestinians....The Native Americans are NOT living with the threat of allied bombs dropping down on their villages and towns and wiping out whole families unlike many of the familes in Iraq towns and cities....Once again I fail to see the comparison. We live in the present NOT in the past and the issues that are causing the resentment to create terrorist are very much in the present and occuring each day!!!!.....Are you failing to understand the main reasons why the terrorist thrive and breed? [/qb]

It is interesting how you choose, seemingly to minimise the plight of Native Indians in North America, particularly the US..You have no doubt placed a priority on whose suffering is more important or more serious than whose..

I find this tasteless..you see, whether you care to realise it or not, this could be a rootcause for more bombings, your downplaying of one people's plight in favour of another; "favoritism," bearing in mind that there are "sickos" out there who will jump at the simplest cause to get even to the point of bearing bombs...

You need to visit a reservation and see what is going on there before you make that statement. Do you see where I am going with this?..and why do YOU conveniently choose to ignore the blacks in the Sudan and Haiti although I cited them as well? They don't count?

If you are going to discuss root causes, which btw this is not what this thread is about, you cannot selectively discuss one and not the other... and this is YY I am saying, if the proverbial "everyone" was to stir up their old grouses, from when Whoppy kill Fillup, "they" would all have bombs strapped on their persons, waiting to get even.

Not even the most well trained forensic psychologists understand the workings of a suicide bomber's minds, I find it interesting that you among others should try to explain it to me..very interesting.

anni how mi dun wid diss, mi more interested in whethere there willbe any backlash against Jamaica/Jamaicans..and things like datThanks for your very spirited discussion.

[bigbooie]

Re: Jamaican allegedly among terrorist BOMBERS in London

Imagine it only teck one Jamaican pon fi do something like dat fi frig up di whole island.

[bobby_65]

Re: Jamaican allegedly among terrorist BOMBERS in London

Originally posted by britisha:
[qb]

Originally posted by Simply_Black:
[qb]

Weak point that you might regard it, how do you explain that Native Americans aren't going around throwing bombs to reclaim their land, ie NORTH AMERICA..which includes Ca-naada..? Aren't they still suffering the injustices today?

NO they are not suffering the same injustices TODAY!!!!....The Native Americans are not being bombed daily and dying innocently in their thousands through carpet bombings and trade restrictions ( like the years that were implemented on Iraq ). The Native Americans have the freedom of movement unlike the Palestinians....The Native Americans are NOT living with the threat of allied bombs dropping down on their villages and towns and wiping out whole families unlike many of the familes in Iraq towns and cities....Once again I fail to see the comparison. We live in the present NOT in the past and the issues that are causing the resentment to create terrorist are very much in the present and occuring each day!!!!.....Are you failing to understand the main reasons why the terrorist thrive and breed? [/qb]

It is interesting how you choose, seemingly to minimise the plight of Native Indians in North America, particularly the US..You have no doubt placed a priority on whose suffering is more important or more serious than whose..

I find this tasteless..you see, whether you care to realise it or not, this could be a rootcause for more bombings, your downplaying of one people's plight in favour of another; "favoritism," bearing in mind that there are "sickos" out there who will jump at the simplest cause to get even to the point of bearing bombs...

You need to visit a reservation and see what is going on there before you make that statement. Do you see where I am going with this?..and why do YOU conveniently choose to ignore the blacks in the Sudan and Haiti although I cited them as well? They don't count?

If you are going to discuss root causes, which btw this is not what this thread is about, you cannot selectively discuss one and not the other... and this is YY I am saying, if the proverbial "everyone" was to stir up their old grouses, from when Whoppy kill Fillup, "they" would all have bombs strapped on their persons, waiting to get even.

Not even the most well trained forensic psychologists understand the workings of a suicide bomber's minds, I find it interesting that you among others should try to explain it to me..very interesting.

anni how mi dun wid diss, mi more interested in whethere there willbe any backlash against Jamaica/Jamaicans..and things like datThanks for your very spirited discussion. [/qb]

Go lie down and get some sleep, hopefully when you wake up yu will come back into reality cause you failing to see all the main important points.

[britisha]

Re: Jamaican allegedly among terrorist BOMBERS in London

Go lie down and get some sleep, hopefully when you wake up yu will come back into reality cause you failing to see all the main important points.

: [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img] :, so now you can't find an intelligent and decent response you have to resort to the underhanded hitting below the belt..: [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img] : I was waiting for this. I could feel it coming..Pity I had dignified anything that you had said from the start..

It is this style of verbal clashes and nastiness that is a part of the problem in the world today. The inability to communicate and NOT get personal with people. The ability to see your weak points AND LEARN FROM THEM..Hello!! Yet you choose to lecture about the making of a terrorist..don't make me laugh!! How many times must I say that this is not the gist of this thread? but NO you had to continue

I find your narrowminded tirade so typical of those who FEEL that they must win an argument, they must COW people into accepting their POV..well Massah, nott'n noh goh soh...: [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img] : If you state convincing arguments, I will entertain them; if you state foolishness, I will equally point them out..you need to regroup, wheel and come again, and get your reasoning ability up to par before you jump into the ring...Good bye!!

[cris]

Re: Jamaican allegedly among terrorist BOMBERS in London

Originally posted by Simply_Black:

Go lie down and get some sleep, hopefully when you wake up yu will come back into reality cause you failing to see all the main important points. [/QB][/QUOTE]

SB you gonna post them root causes of terrorism are lecture on sleeping habits

[britisha]

Re: Jamaican allegedly among terrorist BOMBERS in London

Originally posted by cris:
[qb]

Originally posted by Simply_Black:

Go lie down and get some sleep, hopefully when you wake up yu will come back into reality cause you failing to see all the main important points. [/qb]

SB you gonna post them root causes of terrorism are lecture on sleeping habits [/QB][/QUOTE]

He is not going to do any such thing in this thread. He can start a thread of his own. He has trolled and railroaded this one enough..suggestion for topic, "The making of a terrorist.." How's that?: [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img] :

[weet'ntares]

Re: Jamaican allegedly among terrorist BOMBERS in London

I get so embarrassed when I hear people from other Caribbean islands say Jamaica is the most violent, evil island around. They would never live there. I guess I can't blame them because from red eye(covetousness)to hobia(vodoo) to murder, their hand is always in something from America to England. Jamaica seems to be the summer home for the devil. They love their hobia and don't tell me it no exist, because I know for a fact! Islam is an evil religion that comes from the pit of hell. They say they worship allah, but we truly know who allah is. He is the devil in religious attire. The devil goes about "like a lion" seeking whom he may devour. We need to be spiritually deceptive nowadays because this is truly the end of days. The devil has but a short time and he knows it and will take as many people as he can with him. This Jamaican got converted to Islam(d/evil)and the rest is history. We need to be strong and steadfast with our faith. I crack up when I hear they give out the koran to prisoners in prison-stupid fools!You only opening their minds and spirits to the devil.Leave it to the ACLU who are spiritually ignorant to the things around us.

[Tropicana]

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Why be embarrased. Remember what Malcolm X said about chicken's coming home to roost. Now I don't think that terroism is EVER justified. Let me stress that but straight up. I haven't read the whole thread so I don't know in fact if the 4th bomber was Jamaican but, if he was, what do you expect? England and the US and to some extent Canada have gone all over the world, interferring with people's business. Their corporations have made MEGA profits at the expense of others. The UK and the US have killed lots of innocent children and and adults all over the world over many centuries through wars, the slave trade, etc. When we (people who are not White from other countries) go and live in places like Britain, the US and Canada...we are treated like dirt and not treated as equals. OF COURSE resentment is going to build up. Why should this surprise anyone?

It is significant that these bombers were raised in the UK. Some were even BORN there. White people in power positions in the US, Canada and the UK had better do some serious thinking about how they treat people of colour at home and abroad or this type of thing is going to become as common place as the IRA bombings were at one time.

Sad but OH so true and it should be a HUGE wake up call.

[damask]

Re: Jamaican allegedly among terrorist BOMBERS in London

Originally posted by weet'ntares:
[qb] I get so embarrassed when I hear people from other Caribbean islands say Jamaica is the most violent, evil island around. They would never live there. I guess I can't blame them because from red eye(covetousness)to hobia(vodoo) to murder, their hand is always in something from America to England. Jamaica seems to be the summer home for the devil. They love their hobia and don't tell me it no exist, because I know for a fact! Islam is an evil religion that comes from the pit of hell. They say they worship allah, but we truly know who allah is. He is the devil in religious attire. The devil goes about "like a lion" seeking whom he may devour. We need to be spiritually deceptive nowadays because this is truly the end of days. The devil has but a short time and he knows it and will take as many people as he can with him. This Jamaican got converted to Islam(d/evil)and the rest is history. We need to be strong and steadfast with our faith. I crack up when I hear they give out the koran to prisoners in prison-stupid fools!You only opening their minds and spirits to the devil.Leave it to the ACLU who are spiritually ignorant to the things around us. [/qb]

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[Tropicana]

Re: Jamaican allegedly among terrorist BOMBERS in London

BTW, glad you are safe Daddy Neutral...I did wonder about you.
Here is what Yahoo had:

"Police sources have said the fourth suicide bomber was a Jamaican-born British resident named Lindsey Germaine.

He is understood to have been living at a house in Northern Road, Aylesbury that police raided on Wednesday night.

Little is known of his background and sources say confirmation of his identity may depend on DNA analysis.

He is thought to be responsible for the Russell Square Underground bomb, where 21 people have been confirmed dead and hundreds more injured."