Soon, no black people left in Britain?

[Wahalla]

Re: Soon, no black people left in Britain?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">let me help. because Serenity82 is not racist, she is saying that the black british men are good for nothing and that she would prefer to date white than them.

but wait a wa yu na understand? </div></div>

Or white british men have lower standards than black britians ????

[mountaingal]

Re: Soon, no black people left in Britain?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uswe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">let me help. because Serenity82 is not racist, she is saying that the black british men are good for nothing and that she would prefer to date white than them.

but wait a wa yu na understand? </div></div>



Of course..sorry Sukie, forgive me, I'm not good on irony </div></div>

lol! oonu a joka.

[Derek]

Re: Soon, no black people left in Britain?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Serenity82</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Also, let's remember it's the UK where there's more racism than here in the US. </div></div>

If that is the case, then how do these black guys get white girls so easily?


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Serenity82</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The black guys there most likely feel their best bet is to go the white route! </div></div>

And they get the girls, despite the mind-numbing racism?
Black men being lynched has never, ever been a feature of UK society.

[Wahalla]

Re: Soon, no black people left in Britain?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Serenity82</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Also, let's remember it's the UK where there's more racism than here in the US. </div></div>

If that is the case, then how do these black guys get white girls so easily?


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Serenity82</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The black guys there most likely feel their best bet is to go the white route! </div></div>

And they get the girls, despite the mind-numbing racism?
Black men being lynched has never, ever been a feature of UK society.
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sorry derik nat quite true.. When the yankis were over here in the war there were a number of incidents where Jamaican Service men were excluded from clubs they frequented before the arival of the yanki's.. There was a riot in Picadilly and the issue was raised by the war cabinet.. if memory serve me right Churchillian wit failed on that occasion when his comment was &quot;They should have carried a banjo next time&quot;.... apparently it was said sarasticly at the lack of decorum of yankis....

Also if you watch a number of war films that came out in the 80's.. Memphis Belle, and the one with Richard Gere there was reference to the yanki rascism and the Britsh girls always went to dance with the black guys who were all great dancers...

The more serious side there was in the 80's a mini series on the BBC that followed the fortunes of a black soldier in Britian..

one incident in it was based on a true incident a black WI soldier was dancing with a white british woman and he was later visted by hooded yanki who procceded to castrate and kill him. There was a major riot and the yanki were restricted to bases for a long period... In fact the yanki threathened to pull all their soldiers out if they were not let out of base.. (Now if Fledg was here he would quote the incident and the date it happened and no doubt mention the riots in Jamaica at Vernamfeild....the reasdon why the yanki stayed in Trinidad till the 60's and not Jamaica!)

[Derek]

Re: Soon, no black people left in Britain?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When the <span style="font-weight: bold">yankis </span>were over here in the war there were a number of incidents </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> there was reference to the <span style="font-weight: bold">yanki</span> rascism and the Britsh girls always went to dance with the black guys who were all great dancers...

[quote=Wahalla]a true incident a black WI soldier was dancing with a white british woman and he was later visted by hooded <span style="font-weight: bold">yanki</span> who procceded to castrate and kill him. </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There was a major riot and the <span style="font-weight: bold">yanki </span>were restricted to bases for a long period...</div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In fact the <span style="font-weight: bold">yanki</span> threathened to pull all their soldiers out </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the reasdon why the<span style="font-weight: bold"> yanki</span> stayed in Trinidad till the 60's and not Jamaica!) </div></div>

I wasn't referring to those guys...

[tsophra]

Re: Soon, no black people left in Britain?

hmmm


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Though Black peoples have lived in Britain since they arrived here with the Roman armies, mass immigration did not take place until after the Second World War. While it could be argued that before the mid-nineteenth century the relationship of Blacks and Whites was generally relatively easy, the racial climate then changed. By 1919 there were riots against Black people and a Black man was lynched in Liverpool. A Liverpool paper had described Blacks as “idle and insolent, many of them living on unemployment doles … a black menace …”. The paper quoted a police official recommending that all Blacks should be rounded up and shipped home, and that “white women who carry on with negroes” should be arrested. The retired Administrator of Bechuanaland in a letter to The Times (14 June 1919) explained why “an intimate association between a black or coloured man and white women is a thing of horror”. Another letter, in the Sunday Chronicle (15 June 1919), spoke of the “negro’s inborn and ineradicable savagery, and … unspeakable bestiality where women are concerned … There can never be any question of equality between blacks and whites.”

The service of “coloured” troops to fight for Britain in either of the two world wars did not change attitudes. These troops returned to their homes to find that the economic situation had deteriorated. The only solution was emigration. Moreover, Britain needed labour. By the late 1950s, postwar immigration, invigorated if not begun by business and government recruitment, was about to reach its height. Rumours of imminent restrictions reached the Caribbean and the Indian sub-continent and people hastened to beat the ban. They arrived to a climate of ubiquitous negative racial stereotyping. (The Black children I taught in London schools in the 1960s were not expected to achieve, but White working-class children weren’t either. Just keep them quiet, I was told. I remember as late as the 1970s, while running an in-service course for teachers, showing slides of West Indian housing to demonstrate that Blacks did not live in trees.) The notion of inherent inferiority to Europeans was common. Mixed marriages were regarded with horror.

In the summer of 1958 anti-Black rioting erupted in Nottingham. Homes and people were attacked. The Black community, according to Dominican reporter Edward Scobie, felt that “the police were biased and not fair in their dealings with coloured people”. In August, the racist flames having been fanned by Mosley’s Union Movement and other fascist groups, sporadic attacks on the streets of London escalated into riots. These were worst in the North Kensington area, home to many West Indian settlers. As in Nottingham, individual Blacks were pursued in the streets by mobs screaming “Lynch him”, “Lynch him”. The riots were blamed by the police and the press alike on “hooligans”, and on the Black settlers who were deemed to be a “problem”. That the local fascists had been stirring up trouble was ignored.

At about 1am on Sunday 17 May 1959, a young Antiguan carpenter, bespectacled Kelso Cochrane, was walking home from the hospital which had just plastered his broken thumb. Six White youths attacked him, leaving him on the pavement dying of a knife wound. There were some witnesses to the crime; the police were sent lists of names; some youths were held overnight, but there were no charges and no arrests. This was clearly a forerunner to the murder of Stephen Lawrence.

Black people were horrified – and organised to take action. The Notting Hill-based Inter-Racial Friendship Co-ordinating Council (IRFCC) held a meeting and decided to send an open letter to the Prime Minster, stating that “coloured citizens of the UK have lost confidence in the ability of the law enforcing agencies to protect them”. The meeting demanded that the government close “racial centres” and pass a law making incitement to racial violence illegal. It also decided to seek a meeting with the Home Secretary to discuss the situation and the demands.

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http://www.searchlightmagazine.com/index.php?link=template&amp;story=35

[quoteAn enraged lynch mob gathered outside the houses. Charles Wootton, a 24-year-old black ship's fireman who had not been involved in the fighting, ran out and was pursued by two policemen and a crowd of around 300.

The officers caught him at King's Dock but he was snatched by the mob. A screaming Wootton was hurled into the dock waters and pelted with bricks and rocks as he tried to swim. Eventually his battered corpse was dragged out.

Over the next three days, white mobs up to 10,000 strong ruled Liverpool's tough streets, attacking any black people they saw.

Houses in Toxteth which were believed to have black tenants were systematically looted and torched.

The Times reported: &quot;White men appear determined to clear out the black people who have been advised to stay indoors. This counsel many of them disregard.

&quot;The district was in an uproar and every coloured man seen was followed by a large hostile crowd.&quot;

The victims included an ex-soldier with three medals for courage in the recent war. Some blacks fought back with razors and bottles, but were overwhelmed.

The violence gradually abated, but similar riots erupted that summer in other ports, including London, Glasgow, Newport and Cardiff.

There were further tensions in Liverpool after World War ll, but the city escaped the '50s race riots in Notting Hill and elsewhere.

The Toxteth riots, although branded &quot;race riots&quot;, were more an attack on the police with black and white rioters co-operating in their hatred of authority.

And the city has, over almost 20 years, escaped the more overtly racist murders - such as that of Stephen Lawrence - seen in the capital.

However, Liverpudlians have to accept that our record is not as good as many would wish, and that it is better to confront the more uncomfortable, sordid aspects of our history, as well as appreciate its glories.

] [/quote]


http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool...00252-15813753/

[rufian]

Re: Soon, no black people left in Britain?

what is your point? you will find an article like this happening any place in the world.

[mountaingal]

Re: Soon, no black people left in Britain?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">what is your point? you will find an article like this happening any place in the world. </div></div>

i suspect Jaded was responding to Derek's view that black lynching has not been a feature of British society. the article about Liverpool seems to show otherwise - that was pretty close to being a lynching.

[rufian]

Re: Soon, no black people left in Britain?

just pretty close?

and I am saying &quot;Show me a place in this world where blacks are not .......&quot;.

the question is how much?

Derek forget that article, no matter how de black mix, it still black

[Derek]

Re: Soon, no black people left in Britain?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">- that was pretty close to being a lynching.

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Close, but no cigar. Even I've thrown a molotov - so what? I'm talking about, as you well know, black men swinging by their neck from trees.

[mountaingal]

Re: Soon, no black people left in Britain?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">- that was pretty close to being a lynching.

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Close, but no cigar. Even I've thrown a molotov - so what? I'm talking about, as you well know, black men swinging by their neck from trees. </div></div>

right. stringing up a black man by his neck is waaaaaaay more racist chasing him and throwing him into the water, then pelting him with rocks till he died.

[rufian]

Re: Soon, no black people left in Britain?

well it is nice that us blacks on this board are happy where we are and find our locals not that racist after all even if it full up a KKK

[Derek]

Re: Soon, no black people left in Britain?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">- that was pretty close to being a lynching.

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Close, but no cigar. Even I've thrown a molotov - so what? I'm talking about, as you well know, black men swinging by their neck from trees. </div></div>

right. stringing up a black man by his neck is waaaaaaay more racist chasing him and throwing him into the water, then pelting him with rocks till he died.

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You're dealing with a few incidents over a couple of decades. I'm dealing with regular occurences over centuries.

[Serenity82]

Re: Soon, no black people left in Britain?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Serenity82</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Also, let's remember it's the UK where there's more racism than here in the US. </div></div>

If that is the case, then how do these black guys get white girls so easily?


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Serenity82</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The black guys there most likely feel their best bet is to go the white route! </div></div>

And they get the girls, despite the mind-numbing racism?
Black men being lynched has never, ever been a feature of UK society.
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They are getting the white girls but what kind of white girls are they getting? It tends to be the lower classed, overweight, and drug-addicted. As of late HIV positive too.

Black men may have never been lynched but I know for a fact that opportunities are not as open in the UK as they are in the US. There's alot of racism there still and 50% of any race of guys dating outside of their race can never be normal.

[tsophra]

Re: Soon, no black people left in Britain?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">what is your point? you will find an article like this happening any place in the world. </div></div>

that was my point...UK not an exception on the lynching as Derek stated