Not white enough

[rufian]

Two sides to everything them say and this is it.

Yesterday I was on the train to the poorest provinces with my daughter. We were sitting at the window enjoying the scenery and laughing, when suddenly an old woman(about 55) came over with her hand full of coins.

I did see her sitting opposite us before, I occasionally looked at her features but never saw when she was gathering all those coins. Anyhow, my daughter didn't register what she was supposed to do as it was all odd. I took a quick glance into her hands and saw it was mostly €2 coins, then I looked into her face to decipher how it was meant. Was it an insult or what? She looked really serious and earnest about it.
I told my daughter who was still ignoring her (not on purpose) to say 'thanks' so that she took it.

Afterwards I explained to my daughter why she did that. This was not the first time that women would do such. When my first daughter was a baby a gypsy looking woman came with crackers, mind you they are the beggars around here, she was so persistent that I had to take the cracker and stoned her with it. And everybody around me was looking as if I had insulted her and not the other way around.

The thing is, these people are fed with images of hungry starving Africans on A1 posters all over and here is one of the most famous places known for charity and cheerful given. That plus they claim to be one of the richest. Charity is a big business here so certain beliefs will only intensify.

I explained to my daughter that the woman was being ignorant and which possible assumptions might have led her to do such a thing. The three-figure sum of money I placed in an account which will create some opportunity for my daughter later. It should be a lesson, I will have no control over which.

Just like this woman's stupidity on certain assumptions about black people, many others are even far worst. Probably also just came from church and 'heard help the poor and needy'.
I could tell tales but that is a different chapter "When woman buy man".

Plenty a people even go as far as taking up credit just to prove that they fit in the image of being white and wealthy.

[Wahalla]

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Sukuna Could you not have explained to the woman that you did not need the money ????

You do realise that it is a case that that woman would be thanking god and telling all her friends of what she did and how poor you were, how ugly you were and how malnourished your child was, how your black laughter was diufferent, how proud your daughter was at not grabbing the money ?????

I goota ask where did she get the coins from ??? Did she walk up and down the train and solisite funds from other passangers ???? how sainly of her !!!

See I guess I am reminded of the postings and threads on here (there is less of them these days) Where someone goes to Jamaica and how they took charity to poor people.. and the post where a uniquely educated yanqi told us she was going to save Jamaica with charity.....

I dont mean to be less than charitable.. but when we lived in Africa people would give my daughter money all the time... Also on occasions she who must be obeyed has been out and about with the X's in Scotland and some old lady has chatted to my her complimented her on her children then offered them a pound (Thsi happened with the new born baby)... A couple of these old beddies have said it is a tradition another made the point that they cant offer children sweets anymore.. It also happened once in London when she who must be obeyed was with a white friend of hers both babies received a silver coin.. The white girl claimed it was a old cockney tradition....

You were there so do you think it was ignorance ???

You are from Antigua arnt you obeah ooman ?

[rufian]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sukuna Could you not have explained to the woman that you did not need the money ???? </div></div>
No and I wanted my peace. I notice that when people form an image of you in their head nothing can change it.

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You do realise that it is a case that that woman would be thanking god and telling all her friends of what she did and how poor you were, how ugly you were and how malnourished your child was, how your black laughter was diufferent, how proud your daughter was at not grabbing the money ????? </div></div>
Yes, she needed doing that. But lef out de ugly A wa yu a try? But maybe because we small body dem might think we malnourished. You do have a point.

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I goota ask where did she get the coins from ??? Did she walk up and down the train and solisite funds from other passangers ???? how sainly of her !!! </div></div>
I really dont know. They have a house for refugees in that county(from Somalia,Ethiopia,Erithrea)
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See I guess I am reminded of the postings and threads on here (there is less of them these days) Where someone goes to Jamaica and how they took charity to poor people.. and the post where a uniquely educated yanqi told us she was going to save Jamaica with charity.....</div></div>
I even remembered a German woman come on here from a charity organization and her aim was to bring computers to the maroons You were in the thread too
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I dont mean to be less than charitable.. but when we lived in Africa people would give my daughter money all the time... Also on occasions she who must be obeyed has been out and about with the X's in Scotland and some old lady has chatted to my her complimented her on her children then offered them a pound (Thsi happened with the new born baby)... A couple of these old beddies have said it is a tradition another made the point that they cant offer children sweets anymore.. It also happened once in London when she who must be obeyed was with a white friend of hers both babies received a silver coin.. The white girl claimed it was a old cockney tradition....</div></div>
I always leave the door open for the unknown, white people to me are not just that, there are differences. She looked Bohemian and was serious about it but the fact is her actions were based on what she saw.

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You are from Antigua arnt you obeah ooman ?
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next opportunity question me never work obeah for nobody yet. but me an a fren wuk obeah pan wan next gyal in primary school

[Wahalla]

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Mi ah Ax if yu is fram Antigua cause ah deh incident wid deh Viv Richards Stadium...mi wan hear deh skinny fram yu persepctive..

Fram my perspective you are one of the loviest, saintly females to walk the earth since Mary Maglene doing Jesus.. However when she told the story to her contemipories you virginal lovilness with be transfigured into a cliche.. much as I have no doubt had you been wearing Prada and Dolce and Gabana one offs your clothes will also be reduced into washed out rags.... <span style="font-weight: bold">Who will free us from those who would save us ?????</span>
An yu know mi luball obeah people!

[britisha]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Two sides to everything them say and this is it.

Yesterday I was on the train to the poorest provinces with my daughter. We were sitting at the window enjoying the scenery and laughing, when suddenly an old woman(about 55) came over with her hand full of coins.

I did see her sitting opposite us before, I occasionally looked at her features but never saw when she was gathering all those coins. Anyhow, my daughter didn't register what she was supposed to do as it was all odd. I took a quick glance into her hands and saw it was mostly €2 coins, then I looked into her face to decipher how it was meant. Was it an insult or what? She looked really serious and earnest about it.
I told my daughter who was still ignoring her (not on purpose) to say 'thanks' so that she took it.

Afterwards I explained to my daughter why she did that. This was not the first time that women would do such. When my first daughter was a baby a gypsy looking woman came with crackers, mind you they are the beggars around here, she was so persistent that I had to take the cracker and stoned her with it. And everybody around me was looking as if I had insulted her and not the other way around.

The thing is, these people are fed with images of hungry starving Africans on A1 posters all over and here is one of the most famous places known for charity and cheerful given. That plus they claim to be one of the richest. Charity is a big business here so certain beliefs will only intensify.

I explained to my daughter that the woman was being ignorant and which possible assumptions might have led her to do such a thing. The three-figure sum of money I placed in an account which will create some opportunity for my daughter later. It should be a lesson, I will have no control over which.

Just like this woman's stupidity on certain assumptions about black people, many others are even far worst. Probably also just came from church and 'heard help the poor and needy'.
I could tell tales but that is a different chapter &quot;When woman buy man&quot;.

Plenty a people even go as far as taking up credit just to prove that they fit in the image of being white and wealthy. </div></div>

I thought about your tale before I answered, You were spelling and guessing di ooman's motive, and you had a right to do so. As I said before, people's reaction to some incidents are the result of &quot;their life's experience&quot; [in the past] and if change is needed, no one can change that but themselves.

Mark you, I hear you about the [old] stereotype and so on. I would simply insist that I don't need it, then see what she does after that. She could genuinely be kind to children, and maybe when she was a child, someone gave her money and she felt quite happy about it then, and was even happier to do similar gesture to your daughter. She could be a showoff, she could be crazy, she could be guilt-ridden, she could be this and she could be that...who knows; and it look like shi rich tuh..

As for &quot;old&quot; and even younger white folks who carry stereotypes about blacks; this is based on their experiences as well, harbouring false ideas based on what they were taught by racists, be it in the home or otherwise....<span style="font-weight: bold">leopards cannot change their spots</span> and some racists, even if they want to appear as non-racist, deep down are still racist to the core.

sukuna, an afterthought...here you go judging the ooman [based on your experiences]; thinking that she is judging you as a poor black, [based on her experiences] and which might not be the case...for your peace of mind you took the coins ::bravo:: let her and the others think what they wanted to think, positive or negative...it will take no skin off your nose, ...thank God that you don't need the money and thanks for not stoning her with it. You set a rather beautiful example for your daughter including NOT to turn down offered money.

[blugiant]

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yu a tell mii dat mzungu tekk upp callectshan fe give too yu dawtah ann yu neva give yu dawtah wan lime fe ar aands ann tekk de money

[britisha]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yu a tell mii dat mzungu tekk upp callectshan fe give too yu dawtah ann yu neva give yu dawtah wan lime fe ar aands ann tekk de money </div></div>

The giver didn't take up a collection, she dug up her handbag as all women do, and found the coins for the child...::stopit::before I stone you wid a lime.

[rufian]

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that funny wid de lime. I dont know where she got the money.

britisha, if it was a little some for the situation i would have pelt her with it but it sizeable enough. a guess she gave properly
yes i am judging but i am sure, why she didnt give the money to other kids?

[britisha]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">that funny wid de lime. I dont know where she got the money.

britisha, if it was a little some for the situation i would have pelt her with it but it sizeable enough. a guess she gave properly

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Si wha mi mean,, yuh suhmaawt enuff to know not to throw away good money...I sincerely hope she is not out there somewhere crying for it.

Not that I am judging the lady, but I know of cases where people give away things to showoff, only to be crying for it afterwards..

[blugiant]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: britisha</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yu a tell mii dat mzungu tekk upp callectshan fe give too yu dawtah ann yu neva give yu dawtah wan lime fe ar aands ann tekk de money </div></div>

The giver didn't take up a collection, she dug up her handbag as all women do, and found the coins for the child...::stopit::before I stone you wid a lime. </div></div>

iff mzungu a give mii money mii a tekk itt. lang thyme now mii a advocate fe reparration soo mii cansidar dat wan drapp inna de bucket. soo awl de mzungu add fe give wass coins natt sum paper bills

[rufian]

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if she a bawl serve she right, after all me min deh a siddung in peace but she better dan one ooman weh tell me bout she €50000 weh she lost all because she feed one whole nigerian family an sen cars to dem

[britisha]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: britisha</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yu a tell mii dat mzungu tekk upp callectshan fe give too yu dawtah ann yu neva give yu dawtah wan lime fe ar aands ann tekk de money </div></div>

The giver didn't take up a collection, she dug up her handbag as all women do, and found the coins for the child...::stopit::before I stone you wid a lime. </div></div>

iff mzungu a give mii money mii a tekk itt. lang thyme now mii a advocate fe reparration soo mii cansidar dat wan drapp inna de bucket. soo awl de mzungu add fe give wass coins natt sum paper bills </div></div>

Diss remind me of a beggar guy who sits in the same spot daily, unless it is snowing...I kid you not...mi seh tuh miself, everytime mi look innah di cup mi noh si noh money...although some a dem remove the bills...annihoo mi sight sum pennies...these guys make at the last mi heard, over 60,000 dollars a year and some even liff in pent houses...dats anodda story, anihoo...pennies add up, yuh tan deh...mi figget a which millionaire seh him still pick up pennies offf di street...so anniboddie who turn dung money, dem chuppid..

[britisha]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">if she a bawl serve she right, after all me min deh a siddung in peace but she better dan one ooman weh tell me bout she €50000 weh she lost all because she feed one whole nigerian family an sen cars to dem </div></div>

Sukie, people have given me things and I know it is something that they can barely afford, and I feel guilty taking it...anyhow, I could not insult them to give it back...so I wait for an occasion to return the favour and MORE.

Sukie, dat ooman sent those cars etc based on greed, not generosity...serve the fool right...when will they EVER learn?

[blugiant]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">if she a bawl serve she right, after all me min deh a siddung in peace but she better dan one ooman weh tell me bout she €50000 weh she lost all because she feed one whole nigerian family an sen cars to dem </div></div>

sum peeps cawl itt nigerian scam mii cawl itt redisstreebutshan aff resources. a latt aff jamaicans ave nigerian blood inn dem

[britisha]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">if she a bawl serve she right, after all me min deh a siddung in peace but she better dan one ooman weh tell me bout she €50000 weh she lost all because she feed one whole nigerian family an sen cars to dem </div></div>

sum peeps cawl itt nigerian scam mii cawl itt redisstreebutshan aff resources. a latt aff jamaicans ave nigerian blood inn dem </div></div>

Mi seh yuh fi stop it..a whey yuh git dem hannalogy fram? Redistribution? A mad yuh mad...dem deh Nigerians a ole teefs, and tandeh tink dem uudn't rob yuh tuh...or would it be a caase of teef from teef {blackgiant wid Nigerian blood} Gaawd laff....no baddah mi yaah.