Non-Black Jamaicans in their Own Words

[Dr.Dudd]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gourmet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes, the political/industrial power structure is overwhelmingly white, I agree, but access to that circle is just as closed to whites who aren't part of the circle as it is to people of colour. We are all ruled over by a rich elite who do not act in our best interests.
There are literally 21 families in Canada who own and run the place. I know that is a saying in Jamaica, but it is equally true of Canada. Maybe it's a pattern in all former British colonies. </div></div> So you really believe that poor blacks, like th eones from places like Jamaica have equal opportunities as poor whites eh?/

[gourmet]

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Dudd, yes, poor blacks and poor whites have just about the same bad chances as each other here. The poor who have been here longer have had more opportunity to make friends and have family and contacts, but otherwise, for the most part, they're all in the same miserable boat.

[Tropicana]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> So you really believe that poor blacks, like th eones from places like Jamaica have equal opportunities as poor whites eh?/
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No they don't absolutely not. But she is right, White folks who don't go to certain schools, live in certain communities and belong to certain country clubs are definitely at a disadvantage in terms of opportunities to reach the upper echelons of power in Canadian corporations and Government. In fact, it is not unusual for very ambitious Whites to legally change their &quot;Eurporean surnames&quot; to names that sound more WASP. Many Russian Jews have done this. They have shortened their surnames so that they no longer sound Jewish or Russian.

[gourmet]

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Well the situation is probably very different in Calgary than it is in Toronto.
But yes, no matter your colour, if you don't go to the right schools and have the right family ties, you're always going to be on the outside with your nose pressed to the glass.

[Dr.Dudd]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gourmet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well the situation is probably very different in Calgary than it is in Toronto.
But yes, no matter your colour, if you don't go to the right schools and have the right family ties, you're always going to be on the outside with your nose pressed to the glass. </div></div>You better enjoy it while you can. Every rapidly growoing areas,have that experience of a while. Intil enough whites mive in and start forcing the 'others' out. nad maikng itlike every where else.

[Tropicana]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gourmet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well the situation is probably very different in Calgary than it is in Toronto.
But yes, no matter your colour, if you don't go to the right schools and have the right family ties, you're always going to be on the outside with your nose pressed to the glass. </div></div>

What are you talking about Gourmet? Calgary is one of the most &quot;red neck&quot; areas of Canada. Some a de people dem REALLY have a cowboy mentality.

[gourmet]

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SOME of them? I can't stand the place.

[Tropicana]

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[loops]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Don't go by what you see on the subway. In NO way does it reflect the power elite in Canada.



</div></div> so is about power elite? let me go look for the post from di odda day.... </div></div>

well, they're the only ones that count to her.

[Tropicana]

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Spoke too soon.

deh 'bout. Mi gawn.

[Wahalla]

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T stap bruj up deh thread stick tuh deh tappic!
Moderate ban ar! fi mash up deh thread...

[Tropicana]

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But it's MY thread and onoo mash it up a'ready. The topic did change LONG time! It was light hearted and frivolous and onoo tun it into deep, deep argument and socio-economic and geo-political analysis.

<span style="font-weight: bold"> MODERATOR!! BAN WAHALLA AND DE WHOLE A DEM FI MASH UP MI GOOD, GOOD FRIVILOUS THREAD!!</span>


Anyway, mi gawn. Check onoo late.

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As i sad sometime ago in another thread. The motto od the US is the same translated in english as Jamaica&quot;s,and it did notgove american blacks any right they did not fight and lose their lives for.</div></div>
The literal translation might be similar but the meaning is dissimilar.
In any case so what? Jamaica's Motto was not about fighting it was about healing. People like you and others who bleat about a black country and how blacks are suffering and are kept down then turn around and blame ethnic minorities are nothing more than race-baiting, dishonest apologists who continue to fight the last failed war.

<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Remember</span> it was the majority blacks that turned against the Minorities in the 70s not the other way around.

[RichD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But it's MY thread and onoo mash it up a'ready. The topic did change LONG time! It was light hearted and frivolous and onoo tun it into deep, deep argument and socio-economic and geo-political analysis.

<span style="font-weight: bold"> MODERATOR!! BAN WAHALLA AND DE WHOLE A DEM FI MASH UP MI GOOD, GOOD FRIVILOUS THREAD!!</span>


Anyway, mi gawn. Check onoo late. </div></div> if it was joke thread why yuh never post it in di joke forum ?

[Wahalla]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But it's MY thread and onoo mash it up a'ready. The topic did change LONG time! It was light hearted and frivolous and onoo tun it into deep, deep argument and socio-economic and geo-political analysis.

<span style="font-weight: bold"> MODERATOR!! BAN WAHALLA AND DE WHOLE A DEM FI MASH UP MI GOOD, GOOD FRIVILOUS THREAD!!</span>


Anyway, mi gawn. Check onoo late. </div></div>

Bullfrag seh wha a joke tuh yu ah death tu me....