One Drop Rule & Self Loathing Blacks

[jah_yout]

Re: One Drop Rule & Self Loathing Blacks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Really former hubby. Let me go check.

well you have a point, he looks more Asian. He doesn't look Black to me:



Well in this photo he looks like he is mixed with Black (the hairor at least what's left of it):



Soon come wid more. </div></div>

these guys are clearly african ('black' as they say);

africans happen to be the most diverse people on earth being the original man.
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Hail man, all now you na understand the difference between race and origin???????? </div></div>

didn't you confess to being white?

yes i know the difference &amp; these guys are members of the african geographic race...known to people like you as 'negroes' or 'blacks' or 'coloreds' or ' '

whereas a white person born in china is amember of the european geographic race despite having a chinese nationality

[jah_yout]

Re: One Drop Rule &amp; Self Loathing Blacks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One can see that Tiger Woods is other than black, or black people have green-yellow-brown eyes too?
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at least all black people don't look alike to you;

needless to say as usual i strongly disagree with you...like i stated africans are the most diverse group on the planet, being the protoype that all humans descended from

[Tropicana]

Re: One Drop Rule &amp; Self Loathing Blacks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Sometimes if people are very mixed their appearance may not be clearly Black or White. But I am talking about people like Tiger Woods who CLEARLY look Black and yet deny it. Some of the Dominicans, Puerto Ricans and some really backward Jamaicans would fall into the same category. </div></div>
It depends on who is looking at them because I have very good eyes
One can see that Tiger Woods is other than black, or black people have green-yellow-brown eyes too?
Na badda ansa that

It is not about skin colour, some mixage even result in a darker complexion like latinos and blacks </div></div>

Tiger Woods really doesn't look all that different from my son and BOTH of HIS parents are Black.

[rufian]

Re: One Drop Rule &amp; Self Loathing Blacks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One can see that Tiger Woods is other than black, or black people have green-yellow-brown eyes too?
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at least all black people don't look alike to you;

needless to say as usual i strongly disagree with you...like i stated africans are the most diverse group on the planet, being the protoype that all humans descended from </div></div>
Oh! So you believe in Darwin theories then?

[rufian]

Re: One Drop Rule &amp; Self Loathing Blacks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Sometimes if people are very mixed their appearance may not be clearly Black or White. But I am talking about people like Tiger Woods who CLEARLY look Black and yet deny it. Some of the Dominicans, Puerto Ricans and some really backward Jamaicans would fall into the same category. </div></div>
It depends on who is looking at them because I have very good eyes
One can see that Tiger Woods is other than black, or black people have green-yellow-brown eyes too?
Na badda ansa that

It is not about skin colour, some mixage even result in a darker complexion like latinos and blacks </div></div>

Tiger Woods really doesn't look all that different from my son and BOTH of HIS parents are Black. </div></div>
You said that the parents of you husband are fair and of mixed heritage?
And your son have eye colour like Tiger Woods? Nice

[jah_yout]

Re: One Drop Rule &amp; Self Loathing Blacks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One can see that Tiger Woods is other than black, or black people have green-yellow-brown eyes too?
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at least all black people don't look alike to you;

needless to say as usual i strongly disagree with you...like i stated africans are the most diverse group on the planet, being the protoype that all humans descended from </div></div>
Oh! So you believe in Darwin theories then? </div></div>

who said anything about darwin?

the black man is the original...all races can come from black but black can come from none...
africa the birthplace of humanity...all other races are derived from the original man..
yu simmi

[Tropicana]

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Not quoting you jah yout.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Phatty</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Compray</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wahalla, yuh ugly fi real? </div></div>

I know!

Mi always tink im talk Handsome </div></div>

Yes he does talk very handsome and that is what won me over despite the fact that we can't agree on most topics.

Wahalla, there is no way that a person whose family has been in Jamaica for hundreds of years could be pure Taino. It's IMPOSSIBLE!! If your family migrated from Dominica or one of the other islands with a heavy Taino presence.

[rufian]

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I simply ask you whether you believe in Darwinism.

[rufian]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not quoting you jah yout.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Phatty</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Compray</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wahalla, yuh ugly fi real? </div></div>

I know!

Mi always tink im talk Handsome </div></div>

Yes he does talk very handsome and that is what won me over despite the fact that we can't agree on most topics.

Wahalla, there is no way that a person whose family has been in Jamaica for hundreds of years could be pure Taino. It's IMPOSSIBLE!! If your family migrated from Dominica or one of the other islands with a heavy Taino presence. </div></div>
I am going to learn something today
Taino in Dominica? A Carib you a call Taino? Funny my history book na ha nothn in deh bout Taino Just Caribs and Arawaks
And references seem to point to Arawaks being what they call Tainos

[RichD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I am going to learn something today
Taino in Dominica? A Carib you a call Taino? Funny my history book na ha nothn in deh bout Taino Just Caribs and Arawaks </div></div> is long time yuh lef school ..yuh nuh hear sey nuttin nuh name Arawak again..is Taino

[rufian]

Re: One Drop Rule &amp; Self Loathing Blacks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I am going to learn something today
Taino in Dominica? A Carib you a call Taino? Funny my history book na ha nothn in deh bout Taino Just Caribs and Arawaks </div></div> is long time yuh lef school ..yuh nuh hear sey nuttin nuh name Arawak again..is Taino </div></div>

Long time? Over a decade and books like The Caribbean People make no mention of it.

I guessed right, no Taino was in Dominica

[jah_yout]

Re: One Drop Rule &amp; Self Loathing Blacks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I simply ask you whether you believe in Darwinism. </div></div>

i'm sure there are valid points to SOME things he has put out there, but no i am not a subscriber to his philosophy; some of it seems ridiculous...
but acknowledging the african blackman as the first has nothing to do with whether one accepts darwinism or not;

the biblical book of genesis also places the garden of eden in africa...ancient sources even back this up;

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Diodorus (63BC-14AD), an ancient Greek historian, recorded the popular belief that Egypt was an Ethiopian colony:
&quot;<span style="font-weight: bold">The Ethiopians (black people), as history relates, were the first of all men…</span>They also say that the Egyptians are colonists sent out by the Ethiopians, Osiris having been the leader of the colony…And the larger part of the customs of the Egyptians are, they hold, Ethiopian, the colonists still preserving their ancient manners. For instance, the belief that their kings are gods, the very special attention which they pay to their burial, and many other matters of a similar nature are Ethiopian practices, while the shapes of their statues and the forms of their letters are Ethiopian.&quot;2

Diodorus agreed with the tradition. He wrote that the Egyptians, &quot;are colonists sent out by the Ethiopians….and the larger part of the custom of the Egyptians, these historians hold, are Ethiopian colonists still preserving their ancient manners.&quot;3

The Greek globe-trotter Herodotus, (480?BC-425), often called, &quot;The Father of History,&quot; recorded some cultural similarities between Egypt and Ethiopia in order to explain why he believed the black Colchidians in Russia were colonist from Egypt:
&quot;…<span style="font-weight: bold">among mankind the Egyptians and the Ethiopians have practiced circumcision since time immemorial</span>. The Phoenicians and Syrians of Palestine themselves admit that they learnt the practice from the Egyptians while the Syrians in the river Thermodon and Pathenios region and their neighbors the Macrons say they learnt it recently from the Colchidians. <span style="font-weight: bold">These are the only races which practice circumcision and it is observable that they do it in the same way as the Egyptians. As between the Egyptians themselves and the Ethiopians I could not say which taught the other the practice, for among them it is quite clearly a customs of great antiquity</span>.&quot;4

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[Tropicana]

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Here are some photos from the Carib Territory in Dominica:

http://www.swulinski.com/travels/CaribTerritory.html

http://www.unitedcaribbean.com/caribterritory.html

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Dominica's Caribs now live in eight villages within the 3,700 acres of land on the east coast of Dominica known as the ‘Carib Territory’.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The Caribs in Dominica, after years of brutal treatment by the Spanish, French and English, now number approximately 3,000. They elect their own chief who holds the position for 4 years and also have a representative in the house of assembly. In July 2004 saw Charles Williams elected as Carib Chief. </div></div>
Some are mixed with Black.

Here is the Carib chief and his wife:

[Tropicana]

Re: One Drop Rule &amp; Self Loathing Blacks

Sukuna, I didn't say his eye colour was like Tiger's. I am talking about his facial features. I said he resembled Tiger, not identical but similar facial features and this comes from:

Grandparents - 2 Dark, 1 Light Skinned Black, 1 Medium Complexioned black

Great Grandparents - 6 Dark, 2 Light Skinned Blacks (1 on either side of his family)

Either way you slice it, it's BLACK and proud!!

[rufian]

Re: One Drop Rule &amp; Self Loathing Blacks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here are some photos from the Carib Territory in Dominica:

http://www.swulinski.com/travels/CaribTerritory.html

http://www.unitedcaribbean.com/caribterritory.html

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Dominica's Caribs now live in eight villages within the 3,700 acres of land on the east coast of Dominica known as the ‘Carib Territory’.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The Caribs in Dominica, after years of brutal treatment by the Spanish, French and English, now number approximately 3,000. They elect their own chief who holds the position for 4 years and also have a representative in the house of assembly. In July 2004 saw Charles Williams elected as Carib Chief. </div></div>
Some are mixed with Black.

Here is the Carib chief and his wife:

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My dear, I know all about them, these are my neighbouring island. Grew up with a few.
They are not Tainos that is just what I am saying.