One Drop Rule & Self Loathing Blacks

[Tropicana]

Re: One Drop Rule & Self Loathing Blacks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so is identifying as south asian and black denying his blackness? </div></div>

Of course not.

[jah_yout]

Re: One Drop Rule &amp; Self Loathing Blacks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

I never said one shouldn't OWN all of their ancestors. Identifying yourself as Black doesn't mean that you are denying your full heritage. </div></div>but if you are black and south asian and ientify as black even doah you look more south asian than black isnt that denying one part of your heritage? </div></div>

no because south asians can be black too...

so you are an african/south asian black...

it's brainwashing that makes the masses think 'black' exclusive to africans...there are black south asians, australians, pacific islanders, etc. </div></div>
So you are now for blackness or Africa-ness?

I mean, if black was exclusive to Africans it would mean that those South Asians are Africans.

Check your thoughts, you are mixing things up

you can't be real;
i said the term 'black' is NOT exclusive to africans...i did not mix anything up; and it is not...there are black colored south asians as well as other peoples...africans are not the only ones who are so-called 'black'...
but what would you know about that- your expertise is with european culture &amp; anthropology

[rufian]

Re: One Drop Rule &amp; Self Loathing Blacks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

you can't be real;
i said the term 'black' is NOT exclusive to africans...i did not mix anything up; and it is not...there are black colored south asians as well as other peoples...africans are not the only ones who are so-called 'black'...
but what would you know about that- your expertise is with european culture &amp; anthropology </div></div>
Is that so? Well since you know so much bout Africa down in the music video forum me have something to discuss wid you. is about Africa

Are you saying that all dark-skinned people are Africans?

[Tropicana]

Re: One Drop Rule &amp; Self Loathing Blacks

KD_09 a who name soh? By the way who are you. Never HEARD of you. What is your real name?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KD_09</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not all whites follow the one drop rule, and a high high brownin can still get by with most. </div></div>

First time me evah hear that expression. Is that what African Americans call high yellow?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> So you want to tell me a high high brownin born in the middle of iowa never set foot into anything resembling &quot;black&quot; culture is &quot;black&quot;? </div></div>

Yes.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Get real.

real black Africans don't consider us in the Caribbean to be &quot;black&quot; as we are polluted too. </div></div>

That is the worst garbage I have ever heard....where is Blackgiant when we need him?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So why use the white mans standard and not the real black mans standard?

It's important to know who your heritage, and be aware of what you are. But dividing yourself into rigid lines is counterproductive and perpetuates those divisions we are trying to break down.

out of many one people. most of us are neither black nor white we are mixed and not a damn thing wrong with being a mongrel, or having a mongrel culture. </div></div>

Just because wone is mixed is NO reason to deny that they are Black.

<span style="font-style: italic"> Suspicious. I wonder who is the K_09. Make me see w hen im did join.</span>

<span style="font-weight: bold"> Edited to add:</span>

<span style="font-style: italic"> KD_09

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Placing KD_09 back on ignore. <span style="font-style: italic">Click </span>

[Dyoll_73]

Re: One Drop Rule &amp; Self Loathing Blacks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Why are some of these people SO ashamed to be Black? In this day and age, it's ridiculous. </div></div>

Why are you so worked up about people being ashamed of their supposed <span style="font-style: italic">race</span>? And why should anyone be proud of being black, white, oriental, whatever, since no one had a choice in coming into this world? This racial <span style="font-style: italic">authenticity</span> discussion is assinine, in my opinion. What should a sensible person make of this notion of 'racial purity?&quot;

[LiteBlonde]

Re: One Drop Rule &amp; Self Loathing Blacks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KD_09</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not all whites follow the one drop rule, and a high high brownin can still get by with most. So you want to tell me a high high brownin born in the middle of iowa never set foot into anything resembling &quot;black&quot; culture is &quot;black&quot;? Get real.

real black Africans don't consider us in the Caribbean to be &quot;black&quot;as we are polluted too. So why use the white mans standard and not the real black mans standard?

It's important to know who your heritage, and be aware of what you are. <span style="font-weight: bold">But dividing yourself into rigid lines is counterproductive and perpetuates those divisions we are trying to break down. </span>

out of many one people. most of us are neither black nor white we are mixed and not a damn thing wrong with being a mongrel, or having a mongrel culture. </div></div>

Only brain-washed blacks think like this. Did you know that? You will never find another group of human beings so bent on integrating. Other groups work hard to STAY DIVIDED, except of course the brain-washed among us. Always fighting to be a part of what the powers that be work to keep apart. It is and will always be the reason for the those who stay at the bottom. Rather than simply and silently rise to the top, them sit at the bottom begging to become a part of and fighting against divide...

[rufian]

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Tropicana, I will have to back this.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">real black Africans don't consider us in the Caribbean to be &quot;black&quot; as we are polluted too.</div></div>
I handled as a white person in some instances, just for not being born in Africa, especially for those who have their little pride tied up in family name.

[rufian]

Re: One Drop Rule &amp; Self Loathing Blacks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DotCom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Only brain-washed blacks think like this. Did you know that? You will never find another group of human beings so bent on integrating. Other groups work hard to STAY DIVIDED, except of course the brain-washed among us. Always fighting to be a part of what the powers that be work to keep apart. It is and will always be the reason for the those who stay at the bottom. Rather than simply and silently rise to the top, them sit at the bottom begging to become a part of and fighting against divide... </div></div>
I agree, I dont know why so many want to be equal. They probably understand the meaning of equality where humans are concerned.

[Tropicana]

Re: One Drop Rule &amp; Self Loathing Blacks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i said the term 'black' is NOT exclusive to africans...i did not mix anything up; and it is not...there are black colored south asians as well as other peoples...africans are not the only ones who are so-called 'black'...
but what would you know about that- your expertise is with european culture &amp; anthropology
_________________________ </div></div>

Correct but they are of African ancestry (e.g. Orang Asli of Malaysia, Australian Aborigines)



<span style="font-weight: bold">Orang Asli, Malaysia </span>

[rufian]

Re: One Drop Rule &amp; Self Loathing Blacks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i said the term 'black' is NOT exclusive to africans...i did not mix anything up; and it is not...there are black colored south asians as well as other peoples...africans are not the only ones who are so-called 'black'...
but what would you know about that- your expertise is with european culture &amp; anthropology
_________________________ </div></div>

Correct but they are of African ascenstry (e.g. Orang Asli of Malaysia, Autralian Aborigines)



<span style="font-weight: bold">Orang Asli, Malaysia </span> </div></div>
Jahyout just confused

[LiteBlonde]

Re: One Drop Rule &amp; Self Loathing Blacks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Humano</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Why are some of these people SO ashamed to be Black? In this day and age, it's ridiculous. </div></div>

Why are you so worked up about people being ashamed of their supposed <span style="font-style: italic">race</span>? And why should anyone be proud of being black, white, oriental, whatever, since no one had a choice in coming into this world? This racial <span style="font-style: italic">authenticity</span> discussion is assinine, in my opinion. What should a sensible person make of this notion of 'racial purity?&quot; </div></div>

Me think you just saying that to get Tropican excited bcuz you can't be serious. This topic is an age old topic and when you have more black people who shame to be black that you have who proud, people need to get worked up. Try reading this book. It will floor you.

[Tropicana]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KD_09</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not all whites follow the one drop rule, and a high high brownin can still get by with most. So you want to tell me a high high brownin born in the middle of iowa never set foot into anything resembling &quot;black&quot; culture is &quot;black&quot;? Get real.

real black Africans don't consider us in the Caribbean to be &quot;black&quot;as we are polluted too. So why use the white mans standard and not the real black mans standard?

It's important to know who your heritage, and be aware of what you are. <span style="font-weight: bold">But dividing yourself into rigid lines is counterproductive and perpetuates those divisions we are trying to break down. </span>

out of many one people. most of us are neither black nor white we are mixed and not a damn thing wrong with being a mongrel, or having a mongrel culture. </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DotCom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Only brain-washed blacks think like this. Did you know that? <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 20pt">You will never find another group of human beings so bent on integrating. </span></span> Other groups work hard to STAY DIVIDED, except of course the brain-washed among us. <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 20pt">Always fighting to be a part of what the powers that be work to keep apart. It is and will always be the reason for the those who stay at the bottom. </span></span>Rather than simply and silently rise to the top, them sit at the bottom begging to become a part of and fighting against divide... </div></div>

[KD_09]

Re: One Drop Rule &amp; Self Loathing Blacks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">KD_09 a who name soh? By the way who are you. Never HEARD of you. What is your real name?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KD_09</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not all whites follow the one drop rule, and a high high brownin can still get by with most. </div></div>

First time me evah hear that expression. Is that what African Americans call high yellow?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> So you want to tell me a high high brownin born in the middle of iowa never set foot into anything resembling &quot;black&quot; culture is &quot;black&quot;? </div></div>

Yes.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Get real.

real black Africans don't consider us in the Caribbean to be &quot;black&quot; as we are polluted too. </div></div>

That is the worst garbage I have ever heard....where is Blackgiant when we need him?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So why use the white mans standard and not the real black mans standard?

It's important to know who your heritage, and be aware of what you are. But dividing yourself into rigid lines is counterproductive and perpetuates those divisions we are trying to break down.

out of many one people. most of us are neither black nor white we are mixed and not a damn thing wrong with being a mongrel, or having a mongrel culture. </div></div>

Just because wone is mixed is NO reason to deny that they are Black.

<span style="font-style: italic"> Suspicious. I wonder who is the K_09. Make me see w hen im did join.</span> </div></div>

I just joined today, your topic was the first one I posted in. Real name is Kenneth, born and raised Jamaican. Spent 2 years in Botswana because my mother went over there to teach. Currently back in Ja.

Anyway, I stick to what I said. Sure some black africans will accept anyone with a drop as black, but you also have many that will not. Some whites will not accept anyone with a drop as white, but some will. Don't think so?

&quot;I don't follow or support the 'one drop&quot; rule. I think its assinine frankly andserves no useful purpose except to be devisive . If you look white, act white and think white thats pretty much fine by me&quot;

&quot;Who the hell cares if someone is 1/300th black / native american or whatever &quot;

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=319474

Stormfront is THE global white power website.

I never said anyone should deny that their heritage. But you really cannot just getup and say anyone with a single drop is black and that person must disregard the white aspect of their heritage. In fact mulattoes during slavery though of themselves as a 3rd race. not black. Exactly the same as some people in botswana thought of us. Who are you to draw lines and say that your divisions are law? The world is made up of many shades, not rigid lines.

[Tropicana]

Re: One Drop Rule &amp; Self Loathing Blacks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Why are some of these people SO ashamed to be Black? In this day and age, it's ridiculous. </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Humano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Why are you so worked up about people being ashamed of their supposed <span style="font-style: italic">race</span>? And why should anyone be proud of being black, white, oriental, whatever, since no one had a choice in coming into this world? This racial <span style="font-style: italic">authenticity</span> discussion is assinine, in my opinion. What should a sensible person make of this notion of 'racial purity?&quot; </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DotCom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Me think you just saying that to get Tropican excited bcuz you can't be serious. This topic is an age old topic and when you have more black people who shame to be black that you have who proud, people need to get worked up.
</div></div>

[Dyoll_73]

Re: One Drop Rule &amp; Self Loathing Blacks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DotCom</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Humano</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Why are some of these people SO ashamed to be Black? In this day and age, it's ridiculous. </div></div>

Why are you so worked up about people being ashamed of their supposed <span style="font-style: italic">race</span>? And why should anyone be proud of being black, white, oriental, whatever, since no one had a choice in coming into this world? This racial <span style="font-style: italic">authenticity</span> discussion is assinine, in my opinion. What should a sensible person make of this notion of 'racial purity?&quot; </div></div>

Me think you just saying that to get Tropican excited bcuz you can't be serious. This topic is an age old topic and when you have more black people who shame to be black that you have who proud, people need to get worked up. Try reading this book. </div></div>

You're talking BS. I wonder where this nonsense will take you.

Again, what is a sensible person to make of the notion of 'racial purity'?