One Drop Rule & Self Loathing Blacks

[evanovitch]

Re: One Drop Rule & Self Loathing Blacks

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">you a stretch it far fe see a blond picture
funny i never questioned your complexion, now me a wanda.
any black smaddi pan de board at all? </div></div>

not a big stretch given the beauty dat photos have portrayed ovah di years....cornrow neva go mainstream until Bo wore it big butts neva go mainstream until , well mi a try tink of one white who dem gi props to fi big butt...an no, JLo and Kim Kardashian r not white....

i have neva hidden di fak dat mi ancestry is St Bess n Mobay an nuff red eena both side.... juss lass weekend a hairdresser remarked on the red streak dat runs tru mi hair....mi tell har seh she shudda seet wen mi was living in Ja an di sun tek mi afro...den she wudda did really see red

but say it loud, I'M BLACK AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN PROUD

[rufian]

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So you proud a everything you be or just the black part?
I see the hints but me not so sure

[evanovitch]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So you proud a everything you be or just the black part?
I see the hints but me not so sure </div></div>

i am proud of all the JCan dat is in me...no whe no betta dan yaad....mi juss no play wid eida side whe try get ovah an truss mi, mi know how it can go in Jcan society....juss no play di games .....neva mek being cawled red mek mi mad r getting bly cause of skin tone mek mi disown ....if u notice, mi is equal opportunity aggravator pon yah

[rufian]

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like i said i have never given it much though as come over black to me as you are.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mi juss no play wid eida side whe try get ovah an truss mi</div></div>
well if yu represent a muss have

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">neva mek being cawled red mek mi mad r getting bly cause of skin tone mek mi disown</div></div>
actually the plus I think we Caribbean people have is exposure to differences but that doesnt seem to work.
I must say I have never experienced anybody in my surroundings who were not proud to be of a lighter tone.
It come with some consequences. Even when me hair grow likkle bit me feel some heat.

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So do you think it is your lackings that cause you to be destructive instead of constructive?
Always asking for proof. Some a the things you want proof for is just to use common sense. You a police man? 'Where is the proof' mussa de bullet fe every argument </div></div>Asking for proof is being destructive?

Members of this Board are using all kinds of brush to paint other members; things had gotten so bad in the past that members who take issues with certain arguments were routinely banned.

I am simply asking that a person present the factual basis on which they intend to make their case.
You have a problem with that then tuff titty.

Common sense in not an excuse to make baseless clims that you cannot/will not backup.

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> This is what I am inquiring about:

What I want proof of is how many white Jamaicans/self-loathing blacks are passing as white away from Jamaica, where are they, the proof that they got their hinny kicked?</div></div>

ONce again, I will send you SPECIFIC examples by PM. I have already posted one and Britisha has posted another. I won't post the others in public. When you're chatting people's business, one has to be careful. One never knows WHO is reading. Open your PM, PM me and let me know it is open and I will send you what I have. Then you can close your PM again. </div></div>
So why are you <span style="font-style: italic">(as you claim to be)</span> chatting people's business?
If all you can find are less than three examples how can you say this is widespread?
In any case if you are not prepared to make what you know public I am going to go ahead and call you a liar!

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> fi real Britisha I have actually typed out FOUR examples for the brother. FOUR and referred to some others.: </div></div>Could you point me to four liar?

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It is clear that Tuff Gong will never agree with me no matter WHAT proof I provide.</div></div>
What am I to agree to?
I do agree with you on a lot of things, but I think you are telling tales now!

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DotCom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No distrespect for me don't &quot;know&quot; you but based on your board personality, its gotta be TUFF being you. </div></div>
<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Why</span> you say that?

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This discussion is turning into a personal attack .....</div></div>Maybe you are late to the game but <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">the discussion </span>started as a personal attack to whit:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One Drop Rule &amp; Self Loathing Blacks</div></div>

No proof forthcoming and following up on a number of them started or commandeered by you in the same vein.

[evanovitch]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">like i said i have never given it much though as come over black to me as you are.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mi juss no play wid eida side whe try get ovah an truss mi</div></div>
well if yu represent a muss have

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">neva mek being cawled red mek mi mad r getting bly cause of skin tone mek mi disown</div></div>
actually the plus I think we Caribbean people have is exposure to differences but that doesnt seem to work.
I must say I have never experienced anybody in my surroundings who were not proud to be of a lighter tone.
It come with some consequences. Even when me hair grow likkle bit me feel some heat.
</div></div>

like i always seh, i am Jcan enuff to be a snob and Jcan enuff fi tell a one fi go suck salt tru a fine filta ...

[rufian]

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a so you say, guess yu na dat jamaican if yu kyaan tell dem straight

[Wahalla]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">a so you say, guess yu na dat jamaican if yu kyaan tell dem straight </div></div>

I have read all of this and thought what alot of wasted effort...

So 95% black person with 5% other = Black
but 95 % white person with 5 % black = black..

Pure balderdash...

[rufian]

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There doesnt seem to be a problem in the Caribbean region

wiki: One Drop Rule
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The same racial culture shock has come to hundreds of thousands of dark-skinned immigrants to the United States from Brazil, Colombia, Panama and other Latin American nations. Although most lack the degree of African ancestry required to be considered black in their homelands, they have often been considered black in US society. According to the Washington Post, their refusal to accept the United States' definition of black has left many feeling attacked from all directions. At times, white Americans might discriminate against them for their black skin; African Americans might believe that Afro-Latino immigrants are denying their blackness; and they think lighter-skinned Latinos dominate Spanish-language television and media. A majority of Latin Americans possess some African or Native American ancestry. Many of these immigrants feel it is hard enough to accept a new language and culture without the additional burden of having to transform from white to black. Yvette Modestin, a dark-skinned native of Panama who worked in Boston, said the situation was overwhelming: &quot;There's not a day that I don't have to explain myself.&quot;[8]

The mixed-race movement instituted a Mixed Race Day, as a symbol of resistance against the proposed One-Drop Rule.
Rice and Powell (on the left) are considered black in the US, Bush and Rumsfeld (on the right) are considered white.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Professor J.B. Bird has said that Latin America is not alone in rejecting the United States' notion that any visible African ancestry is enough to make one black: &quot;In most countries of the Caribbean, Colin Powell would be described as a Creole, reflecting his mixed heritage. In Belize, he might further be described as a 'High Creole', because of his extremely light complexion.&quot;[9]</span>

Consequences of the one-drop rule

Mainly because of the one-drop rule, there are many pale-skinned people who are considered black. In many of these instances, the person can actually have more white ancestry than black. There are examples of how this could happen through the generations. During slavery, there could have been a mulatto person, who because of the one-drop rule, was considered black. If they then had a child with a white person, the child would have been one-quarter black, but still considered black.

However, such people today are the exception, not the rule. The average person who self-identifies as black in the United States has at least 53% of their ancestors from sub-Saharan Africa. <span style="font-weight: bold">Only 10% of Americans who self-identify as black are less than 50% sub-Saharan in ancestry</span>.[10]

[Dyoll_73]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I have read all of this and thought what alot of wasted effort...

So 95% black person with 5% other = Black
but 95 % white person with 5 % black = black..</div></div>

Well, apparently those who support the &quot;one drop rule&quot; can't see the inherently racist motivations in the <span style="font-style: italic">rule</span>.