About Our Ancestors, Rose Hall and Annie Palmer

**RichD** · 10-05-2009, 05:23 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Somewhere, a far-off tale of murder has become attached to Rose Hall and Palmyra and to the two Mrs. Palmers who lived there. Hearsay rumours were taken as gospel truth, and once the legend was given currency, by James Castello in his pamphlet of 1868, it stuck. Because it was in print, it became believed as true and then people started to look for blood stains and ghosts and saw them.

Delisser gave the legend far wider currency in his novel "The White Witch of Rose Hall" than did Castello. The legend throve, the facts disappeared. Now it has become so firmly established-and I frankly admit it is a good story-that a film is to be made of it. Rose Hall has been bought and is to be restored at a cost of some £300,000. Is it too much to hope that when all this money is spent, some tiny portion will be set aside to let Jamaica and her visitors know the true tale of Rose Hall?</div></div>

**Tropicana** · 10-05-2009, 05:24 PM

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Here is more and this is consistent with what the tour guide said:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The White Witch’s cruelty still haunts the greathouse of Rosehall
(Feb-17-2004)
Trees gently swaying in the breeze, lush green lawns and a long drive-way edged with palm trees leading to a two-storey white house with wooden shingles, paint a picturesque setting for visitors to the Rosehall Great House, former of home the late Annie Palmer “The White Witch of Rose Hall.

This popular tourist attraction bubbles with legends about this white plantation owner who during her lifetime (according to the legends) killed her three husbands as well as each slave accomplice, highlighting her firm belief in the saying <span style="font-weight: bold">“Dead men tell no tales.”</span>

The frightening tales about Annie Palmer are too numerous to mention and sometimes difficult to imagine.</div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Born Annie Mae Patterson, to an English mother and an Irish father it is said that her family moved to Haiti to practice witchcraft. Her parents died when she was 10 years old causing her nanny, who was a voodoo priestess, to adopt her and teach her the art of voodoo. Eight years later, her nanny died.

Annie came to Jamaica and met John Palmer, who owned the plantation at the time and they got married. After playing the role of wife for six years, she found out that she was partial owner to all his possessions so she poisoned him and became full owner of the estate. </div></div>
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From there, Annie used her power to her advantage, manipulating every man she admired and luring them into her demanding arms. <span style="font-weight: bold">Whether it was just for one night, or for whatever reason, Annie had countless affairs with slaves and English men.</span>

Slaves were used for various reasons from tilling the soil on the plantation to ‘warming’ Annie in her bedroom. After satisfying her in bed, Annie would show her gratitude by killing them so they could not reveal their affairs.

Slaves that were caught trying to run away from the plantation had their legs severed and they were thrown into pits inside the dungeon that were 16ft deep. There was no medical help offered so they would bleed to death amidst the cold darkness.

These pits are now packed with stones and converted into two washrooms and a gift shop standing between them. </div></div> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Of all the slaves, Annie was most drawn to Takoo, the ‘Black Lover’ as it is said that he practiced witchcraft. As a result of his skill, he gained freedom before all the other slaves.

Continuing her killing ways, Annie killed her second husband was about to find out about her affairs so she thought the only way to keep him from finding out was to kill him. She stabbed him repeatedly with and knife and poured hot oil in his ear to make sure he was dead.

The third husband was said to have had a drinking problem and he would hit her so one night she went into his room and strangled him.

The bodies of her husbands were then taken underground down to the waterfront where they were buried. </div></div>
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In those days, it wasn’t customary for husbands to sleep with their wives so Annie and her husbands didn’t share the same room. She killed her husbands in different rooms and blamed it on the common disease yellow fever. At that time, English men were dying like flies due to this sickness so it was easy for the deaths to be overlooked by the authorities.

Annie was accustomed to getting her own way or whatever she wanted. She was in an affair with the plantation’s bookkeeper, Robert but he did not love her. His love was for Millicent who was a free native and Takoo’s granddaughter.

Realizing that she could not get Robert’s love, she decided to get Millicent out of the way so she cast a spell on her and she withered and died in nine days. This made Takoo upset and when the rebellion started on the plantation, he went up to Annie’s room, made love to her and strangled her. </div></div> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Takoo went missing and Ashman, Annie’s overseer, found her powerless body when he went to her room to check on her. According to history, he killed Takoo within nine days of finding Annie’s body.

A family bought the house in 1905 but sold it after their maid went on the balcony to clean and fell off breaking her neck. It is often told that nanny loved looking out from this balcony especially when slaves were being beaten and it is believed that it was her spirit that threw the maid over the rails.

The house sat in ruins for years as people did not want to buy it due mainly to fear.It was not until US entrepreneurs John and Michele Rollins bought it and spent US$2.5 million to restore it to its present beauty, now offering guided tours.

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http://www.golocaljamaica.com/readarticle.php?ArticleID=2366

**neutral** · 10-05-2009, 05:25 PM

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Tropi`,I do believe over the years the story has been embellished,and the attraction of the house lies in embellishing its past history,...I dont believe for one second that this woman was anything more than simply a very bad tempered slave master.

**RichD** · 10-05-2009, 05:27 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is more and this is consistent with what the tour guide said:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The White Witch’s cruelty still haunts the greathouse of Rosehall
(Feb-17-2004)
Trees gently swaying in the breeze, lush green lawns and a long drive-way edged with palm trees leading to a two-storey white house with wooden shingles, paint a picturesque setting for visitors to the Rosehall Great House, former of home the late Annie Palmer “The White Witch of Rose Hall.

This popular tourist attraction bubbles with legends about this white plantation owner who during her lifetime (according to the legends) killed her three husbands as well as each slave accomplice, highlighting her firm belief in the saying “Dead men tell no tales.”

The frightening tales about Annie Palmer are too numerous to mention and sometimes difficult to imagine.

Born Annie Mae Patterson, to an English mother and an Irish father it is said that her family moved to Haiti to practice witchcraft. Her parents died when she was 10 years old causing her nanny, who was a voodoo priestess, to adopt her and teach her the art of voodoo. Eight years later, her nanny died.

Annie came to Jamaica and met John Palmer, who owned the plantation at the time and they got married. After playing the role of wife for six years, she found out that she was partial owner to all his possessions so she poisoned him and became full owner of the estate.

From there, Annie used her power to her advantage, manipulating every man she admired and luring them into her demanding arms. Whether it was just for one night, or for whatever reason, Annie had countless affairs with slaves and English men.

Slaves were used for various reasons from tilling the soil on the plantation to ‘warming’ Annie in her bedroom. After satisfying her in bed, Annie would show her gratitude by killing them so they could not reveal their affairs.

Slaves that were caught trying to run away from the plantation had their legs severed and they were thrown into pits inside the dungeon that were 16ft deep. There was no medical help offered so they would bleed to death amidst the cold darkness.

These pits are now packed with stones and converted into two washrooms and a gift shop standing between them.

Of all the slaves, Annie was most drawn to Takoo, the ‘Black Lover’ as it is said that he practiced witchcraft. As a result of his skill, he gained freedom before all the other slaves.

Continuing her killing ways, Annie killed her second husband was about to find out about her affairs so she thought the only way to keep him from finding out was to kill him. She stabbed him repeatedly with and knife and poured hot oil in his ear to make sure he was dead.

The third husband was said to have had a drinking problem and he would hit her so one night she went into his room and strangled him.

The bodies of her husbands were then taken underground down to the waterfront where they were buried.

In those days, it wasn’t customary for husbands to sleep with their wives so Annie and her husbands didn’t share the same room. She killed her husbands in different rooms and blamed it on the common disease yellow fever. At that time, English men were dying like flies due to this sickness so it was easy for the deaths to be overlooked by the authorities.

Annie was accustomed to getting her own way or whatever she wanted. She was in an affair with the plantation’s bookkeeper, Robert but he did not love her. His love was for Millicent who was a free native and Takoo’s granddaughter.

Realizing that she could not get Robert’s love, she decided to get Millicent out of the way so she cast a spell on her and she withered and died in nine days. This made Takoo upset and when the rebellion started on the plantation, he went up to Annie’s room, made love to her and strangled her.

Takoo went missing and Ashman, Annie’s overseer, found her powerless body when he went to her room to check on her. According to history, he killed Takoo within nine days of finding Annie’s body.

A family bought the house in 1905 but sold it after their maid went on the balcony to clean and fell off breaking her neck. It is often told that nanny loved looking out from this balcony especially when slaves were being beaten and it is believed that it was her spirit that threw the maid over the rails.

The house sat in ruins for years as people did not want to buy it due mainly to fear.It was not until US entrepreneurs John and Michele Rollins bought it and spent US$2.5 million to restore it to its present beauty, now offering guided tours.

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http://www.golocaljamaica.com/readar...ArticleID=2366 </div></div>

i choose to lean more to the version of ... <span style="font-weight: bold">Geoffrey S. Yates
Assistant Archivist, Jamaica Archives, c 1965</span>

**diabolical_Tanya** · 10-05-2009, 05:29 PM

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Speaking of Rose Hall, RichD what ever came of that lawsuit wid Rollins dem?

**RichD** · 10-05-2009, 05:30 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MrsDiabolical___</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Speaking of Rose Hall, RichD what ever came of that lawsuit wid Rollins dem? </div></div>ongoing

**mountaingal** · 10-05-2009, 05:50 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When I was a boy we used to go out there quite regular me and my friends,we knew a man that had connections there and could get us in anytime,...one night we were all outside the house and someone started stoning us,<span style="font-weight: bold">pere rackstone started coming from the dark,...</span>waan piece a running wi puddung,....I mussi did run de almost 20 miles back to mobay. </div></div>

this remind me of a very scary scene in the blair witch project movie.

**Wahalla** · 10-05-2009, 07:22 PM

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just one moment to change a truth to lie..

so often I hear on here how we are miseducated.. yet no matter how often I hear the White Witch of rose hall myth repeated as truth.. And rather question the basis it is presented as fact ?????

I have seen on here men who tell me I am a sell out come with that Haiti was cursed for making a pact with the devil.. Voodo was then a poltical subversive as much as a religion..

How often have we heard that migrants from Haiti are practicing vodoo ???

use some common sense, some historical perspective...

1) What age did Anne Palmer come from Haiti ? What year ????
2) What chance was it that a rich planter daughter would have been initiated into voodo ? wow.. white teenager masters all tghe arcane arts ????gimme a break
3) What role did white women play in slave society ?
4) In our modern society women who cross gender roles are veiwed as Whores & Bytches ?
5) What historical records are there that supports this argument ???? who wrote it ??? people who wanted to justify a rebellion agaist a poltical back ground of a growing oppostion to slavery...
6) What was teh mortality rate of residents planters ?

There are elements of truth.. but there is a lie at the core.. if you cant see it then sorry....Modern publicity and PR does little to validate our history.. At the center we have a white ooman who ran a plantation.(Shades of Tossaint and his mistress). that got burnt down by the resident slaves.. it was a slave rebellion.. they rebelled because she was cruel ??? And all the others rebellions was caused by the other planters being kind...

Delisser belittles a rebellion.. That was what it was an act of aggression.... Rationalises cruety.. she was les cruel than her contemporaies.. Her land was coveted by other planters... Voodoo ??? hell she was no practioncer...

A single white ooman living in Jamaica when I was a kid would solict romour.. A woman running a plantation ???? Oh right sexiam was not invented then.. So many consious black people.. and they buy into belittling a rebellion.. such respect for ancestors....

**Tropicana** · 10-05-2009, 08:13 PM

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This is the version to which RichD is referring. He posted part earlier and here is the rest:

http://www.jamaicanfamilysearch.com/Samples2/mpalmer.htm

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<span style="font-weight: bold">ROSE HALL - DEATH OF A LEGEND</span>

By Geoffrey S. Yates
Assistant Archivist, Jamaica Archives, c 1965

<span style="font-weight: bold">Was it really Annie?</span>

Annie Mary Paterson, upon whom a malicious and unjust fate has bestowed such an evil and unmerited reputation, was born in the autumn of 1802, the only child of John Paterson, Esq., of The Baulk, near Lucea, and Julian his wife. Her paternal grandparents were Dr. John Paterson, a Scotsman who had settled in Hanover, and Deborah McKenzie his wife.

On the death of Dr. Paterson, the Hanover parish register noted he was "universally regretted." Her maternal grandparents were the Hon. William Brown, a Scotsman and Custos of Hanover, and Mary Kerr James his wife, of Kew near Lucea.</div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> John Paterson married Juliana, the eldest Brown daughter, in 1801 but died at the early age of 24 before his daughter Annie Mary was born. The young girl was brought up by guardians, including her mother, her grandfather, her uncle and later her stepfather, for in 1812 Juliana Paterson married Capt. David Boyd, a retired naval officer and professional planting attorney. </div></div>

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William Brown died in 1817, Mrs. Boyd in 1832, and Captain Boyd in 1842, so that Annie Mary was not alone in the world even after she was married. Her mysterious and unknown origin, her training in voodoo-these must be abandoned in favour of upbringing on a property normal for her time and class.

We do not know how and when Annie Mary met John Rose Palmer, but on March 28, 1820, they were married at Mount Pleasant, St. James, then the home of Capt. And Mrs. Boyd, Annie Mary was 17. The young couple, so we are told by the Royal Gazette, were married again in England, on their honeymoon. This was not unusual as sometimes doubt was expressed as to the validity of marriages in those days.</div></div>
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After returning, the couple moved to Rose Hall, not to a life of luxury but one of money worries, as so often to newly-weds Annie Mary did not enjoy her married life for long for John Rose Palmer died seven years later, some £6,000 in debt. His personal possessions, including £350 worth of plates and some debts owing him totalled a mere £1,137.15. 10 1/2d. What was his wife to do? She had no money, no real claim to the estate, no slaves, nothing. </div></div>
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Seek shelter</span>

She left to seek shelter elsewhere, and eventually sold out whatever rights she may have had in Rose Hall and Palmyra for £200 sterling to a Dr. Bernard in Bristol. This was in 1830. However, Rose Hall was empty before this, as we know, for a variety of reasons.

<span style="font-weight: bold">In a Rose Hall Estate Journal quoted by Shore in his "In Old St. James" (1911) and now, alas! Of unknown whereabouts, but perfectly genuine, there were from the first week in January, 1829, to December, 1832, one slave attending the Great House and two with Mrs. Palmer.</span> This first slave must have been a housekeeper or caretaker, for Mrs. Palmer was elsewhere. She was not at Palmyra, for as we know that too was empty except for a housekeeper, Mary Ann Hill, whom the receivers sold to her own husband, Frederick Earl, for £45 in 1833.</div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The two slaves may have been allowed by the receivers to accompany Mrs. Palmer to her new abode. <span style="font-weight: bold">However, according to officially enrolled slave returns, she had in June 1829 four slaves, Cymir aged 30, Sarah Smith aged 30, and Sarah's two children Alexander and Charles aged 6 and 8 respectively. </span></div></div> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
In 1833 she is listed as being at Bellevue, St. James, with 8 slaves.

Bellevue and Bonavista3 are both shown by the Jamaica Almanacks as belonging to the Bernard family, and may well have been both part of the same property, as both names mean "Beautiful View."

<span style="font-weight: bold">In 1842, William Augustus Dickson, a Scottish merchant of Lucea, and her uncle by marriage, left a will which stated "my settlement in St. James called 'Bellevue' I leave to Mrs. Palmer for life." It is not clear how he obtained Bellevue, nor how Annie Mary acquired the slaves. Probably Dickson obtained land at Bonavista or Bellevue from the dissolution of the Bernard family estates when they got into trouble, and left his niece in charge. In any case, she was a connection to the Bernards, one of whom had bought up her rights to Rose Hall and Palmyra.</span></div></div>
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Annie Mary Palmer, for she never married again and had no children5, was not destined to live to a ripe old age. In 1846 she dies at Bonavista, near Anchovy, and was buried in the church yard at Montego Bay by Rev. T. Garrett on July 9. No tombstone has survived to mark the spot.

By her will, which may be seen in the Jamaica Archives, she left everything-which cannot have amount to much as it was not specified-to Giolia Mary Spence, her goddaughter, aged two, the child of Dr. & Mrs. Patrick Spence of Montego Bay. This, then, was the true end of a woman-allegedly murdered twelve or more years before by her slaves-long after the abolition of slavery. </div></div>
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Monstrous</span>

How then, did this monstrous legend grow up? For an examination of the printed sources I should draw my reader's attention to an article by Miss Glory Robertson of the West India Reference Library entitled "The Rose Hall Legend: was it really Annie?" in the Jamaica Historical Society Bulletin of December 1964.

Briefly, all the commonly accepted sources are confused and contradictory, and Roby, in his serious "History of St. James" (1849) does not mention it at all. Nowhere in the official archives of Jamaica is there anything I have yet discovered which links either Rosa or Annie Mary Palmer with any form of crime, debauchery or unnatural death. </div></div>
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It was a Rev. Waddell who first mentions the strangling of a Mrs. Palmer at Palmyra in 1830. Being an abolitionist, he would be inclined to accept evidences of the iniquities of planters. There was indeed a 'bilbo room' or punishment cell at Palmyra which had been repaired by the reviewers for years after his visit! This he did see when he preached at Rose Hall and visited Palmyra after Mrs. Palmer had left.

<span style="font-weight: bold">As Rosa was not murdered and Annie Mary Palmer was still alive, who could it have been whom he was told was strangled? Probably he was told some confused story by a slave or plantation hand talking patois, which he did not understand correctly, and which related to some murder which took place perhaps a 100 years before, when such things were more likely.</span> </div></div>
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Legend grows rapidly, smothering facts and attaching itself like a vine to places where it does not belong. Statements are made only a few years after events have taken place, which on examination are found to be untrue.

Somewhere, a far-off tale of murder has become attached to Rose Hall and Palmyra and to the two Mrs. Palmers who lived there. <span style="font-weight: bold">Hearsay rumours were taken as gospel truth, and once the legend was given currency, by James Castello in his pamphlet of 1868, it stuck. Because it was in print, it became believed as true and then people started to look for blood stains and ghosts and saw them.</span> </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Delisser gave the legend far wider currency in his novel "The White Witch of Rose Hall" than did Castello. The legend throve, the facts disappeared. Now it has become so firmly established-and I frankly admit it is a good story-that a film is to be made of it. Rose Hall has been bought and is to be restored at a cost of some £300,000. Is it too much to hope that when all this money is spent, some tiny portion will be set aside to let Jamaica and her visitors know the true tale of Rose Hall?

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**Tropicana** · 10-05-2009, 08:37 PM

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An Atlanta company is in a $145 million legal dispute with Ritz-Carlton Hotels over the operation of a resort in Montego Bay, Jamaica.

Rose Hall Resort L.P., which owns the Jamaican hotel and pays Ritz-Carlton to operate it, filed a lawsuit Sept. 3 in U.S. District Court in Atlanta, accusing Ritz-Carlton of mismanagement.

“Instead of a trusting and mutually beneficial relationship, Ritz-Carlton has put Rose Hall through a nightmare of theft, broken promises, gross negligence and outright fraud,” the suit alleges. Ritz-Carlton refuses to keep the beach clean, did not adequately maintain a sewage treatment plant and had sloppy accounting controls that led to embezzlement of funds, the suit charges.

GlobalAtlanta contacted Ritz-Carlton several times over the last five days but the company did not issue a statement on the lawsuit. Ritz-Carlton, formerly headquartered in Atlanta, is now owned by Maryland-based Marriott International Inc.

Rose Hall, which has offices on Buford Highway, has terminated the operating agreement with Ritz-Carlton effective Oct. 1 and is in the process of hiring another operator, according to the lawsuit.

In the meantime, Rose Hall obtained a temporary restraining against Ritz-Carlton, barring it from removing any property or records from the hotel.

In a separate arbitration proceeding, Rose Hall is seeking $145 million in damages from Ritz-Carlton because of the alleged mismanagement.

The resort opened on Aug. 1, 2000, with Ritz-Carlton predicting profits of $20 million per year by 2003, exceeding $27 million annually by 2008, the lawsuit contends. But so far, “Rose Hall has received no financial return in any year and now is funding shortfalls,” according to the suit.

John Rollins, a wealthy Delaware businessman and Georgia native, launched the Ritz project, but died a few months before the hotel opened. The resort is still owned by members of the Rollins family. R. Randall Rollins, nephew of John Rollins, is listed with the Georgia Secretary of State’s Office as chief executive officer of LOR Inc. identified in the lawsuit as a limited partner in the hotel.

R. Randall Rollins is chairman of the board of Atlanta-based Rollins Inc., which owns pest-control company, Orkin Inc..

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http://www.agiomedia.com/article/20853/

**Tropicana** · 10-06-2009, 01:01 AM

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BTW, how do you account for the bear traps the owners found on the property. There are no bears in Jamaica. These were supposedly put out to catch runaway slaves and when they were caught they were supposedly put in the cellear and left without food or water to die. I saw one of the traps.

**evanovitch** · 10-06-2009, 01:05 AM

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[quote=RichD

<span style="font-weight: bold">oh yuh never tell mi sey it was the guide at rose hall tourist attraction who was the source ....of course she must be telling the truth ..she would have no reason to embellish the story...i stand corrected..carry on</span>. [/quote]

nice one dat

**Tropicana** · 10-06-2009, 11:56 AM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Tropi`,I do believe over the years the story has been embellished,and the attraction of the house lies in embellishing its past history,...I dont believe for one second that this woman was anything more than simply a very bad tempered slave master. </div></div>

So you don't believe her duppy pushed the maid from the balcony or smashed the tea cups either?

**neutral** · 10-06-2009, 11:59 AM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Tropi`,I do believe over the years the story has been embellished,and the attraction of the house lies in embellishing its past history,...I dont believe for one second that this woman was anything more than simply a very bad tempered slave master. </div></div>

So you don't believe her duppy pushed the maid from the balcony or smashed the tea cups either?

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I dont believe in duppies,...when yu dead yu dead,...if you cant harm me when youre al;ive you certainly cant do it dead.

**Tropicana** · 10-06-2009, 12:06 PM

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Me neither but the stories are fun.

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