"I'm not African-American"

[Emperah]

Re: "I'm not African-American"

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[Skelly]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Emperah_dahJah2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Skelly</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I have no emotional ties to the continent, as I don't even know where my people originated. In fact, I know more about my other ancestry ... </div></div>

an dem raddah yuh feel hatred towards it</div></div>

who says mi ave hatred towards it?

[Emperah]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Skelly</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Emperah_dahJah2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Skelly</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I have no emotional ties to the continent, as I don't even know where my people originated. In fact, I know more about my other ancestry ... </div></div>

an dem raddah yuh feel hatred towards it</div></div>

who says mi ave hatred towards it? </div></div>

mi neh mean seh YOU have hatred towards it, but many of our ppl do.
And how come you know more bout all yuh oddah ancestry more den yuh African ancestry, is it cah yuh nuh care ar it jus nuh mek nuh difference tuh yuh?

[kia027]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

dahjah it could be that part of her ancestry not traceable? When doing geneaology of my family tree i found my father's side was easy to obtain and can go back to another continent to 1703, but the african side only traceable to the late 1800s,

[Gen]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

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[jah_yout]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body">dahjah it could be that part of her ancestry not traceable? When doing geneaology of my family tree i found my father's side was easy to obtain and can go back to another continent to 1703, but the african side only traceable to the late 1800s, </div></div>


do you really think that's the reason so-called black people so readily point out their non-afrikan ancestry while so-called white people rarely ever point out their non-european ancestry?

it's all about the value system assigned to certain colors/races by the ruling classes...and over the past 4 to 500 years afrikan ancestry has been assigned the lowest value by the ruling castes...it's psychology- no one wants to identify with what they perceive as the losing side..

we same one call an asian person a chinese regardless of if we knew where they were born...we don't call them yellows...yet we don't apply that same logic to africans...

[Skelly]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Emperah_dahJah2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Skelly</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Emperah_dahJah2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Skelly</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I have no emotional ties to the continent, as I don't even know where my people originated. In fact, I know more about my other ancestry ... </div></div>

an dem raddah yuh feel hatred towards it</div></div>

who says mi ave hatred towards it? </div></div>

mi neh mean seh YOU have hatred towards it, but many of our ppl do.
And how come you know more bout all yuh oddah ancestry more den yuh African ancestry, is it cah yuh nuh care ar it jus nuh mek nuh difference tuh yuh? </div></div>

oh lawd!!! \0/

[kia027]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body">dahjah it could be that part of her ancestry not traceable? When doing geneaology of my family tree i found my father's side was easy to obtain and can go back to another continent to 1703, but the african side only traceable to the late 1800s, </div></div>


do you really think that's the reason so-called black people so readily point out their non-afrikan ancestry while so-called white people rarely ever point out their non-european ancestry?

it's all about the value system assigned to certain colors/races by the ruling classes...and over the past 4 to 500 years afrikan ancestry has been assigned the lowest value by the ruling castes...it's psychology- no one wants to identify with what they perceive as the losing side..

we same one call an asian person a chinese regardless of if we knew where they were born...we don't call them yellows...yet we don't apply that same logic to africans... </div></div>

The question was know bout de particular ancestors. It have nothing to do wid ur question on why people call out dem odda races..

Maybe cause the default is black so no need to let people know dem black.

Mi memba on a plane one time dis lady did want fi chat and tell mi seh she 1/4 native american -- the rest mussi white cause a so she did look but she neva said dat.. so does it mean the woman had self hate fi ar white said cause she neva seh de white part?

[twiney]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

What wrong with smaddy acknowledging all of them ancestry even the pawt them that not black?

[Skelly]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body">dahjah it could be that part of her ancestry not traceable? When doing geneaology of my family tree i found my father's side was easy to obtain and can go back to another continent to 1703, but the african side only traceable to the late 1800s, </div></div>


do you really think that's the reason so-called black people so readily point out their non-afrikan ancestry while so-called white people rarely ever point out their non-european ancestry?</div></div>

dear gawd why mi cum een yah \0/

mi nuh know bout so cawl black ppl...but mi know bout dis yah black smaddy...part of my ancestry is traceable due to

information passed down from generation to generation
actual documents of arrival, settling in JA
photographs (couple of which I have posted on this very site)

We've tried tracing my maternal grandmother's side of people. all we found out was that her ppl dem was slaves belonging to an owner by the name of Gordon, the name that they kept as their surname. There was no other information about the slaves prior to that. Ironically I believe the story is that the owner must have given our predecessors quite a bit of land...many many many acres... and that is the land weh mi grandmother born and dead pan...it still in di family but much of it has been sold off...

anyway I don't feel like delving much into mi life story, I just hate when ppl take one statement and run with it and build a whole case of it and apply it to the masses

[jah_yout]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

blah blah blah

all now unnu cyaan answer what unnu call east asian people (chinese, korean, japanese, etc)..

nor do i expect you to answer it because it would smash your logic...

[jah_yout]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body">dahjah it could be that part of her ancestry not traceable? When doing geneaology of my family tree i found my father's side was easy to obtain and can go back to another continent to 1703, but the african side only traceable to the late 1800s, </div></div>


do you really think that's the reason so-called black people so readily point out their non-afrikan ancestry while so-called white people rarely ever point out their non-european ancestry?

it's all about the value system assigned to certain colors/races by the ruling classes...and over the past 4 to 500 years afrikan ancestry has been assigned the lowest value by the ruling castes...it's psychology- no one wants to identify with what they perceive as the losing side..

we same one call an asian person a chinese regardless of if we knew where they were born...we don't call them yellows...yet we don't apply that same logic to africans... </div></div>

The question was know bout de particular ancestors. It have nothing to do wid ur question on why people call out dem odda races..

Maybe cause the default is black so no need to let people know dem black.

Mi memba on a plane one time dis lady did want fi chat and tell mi seh she 1/4 native american -- the rest mussi white cause a so she did look but she neva said dat.. so does it mean the woman had self hate fi ar white said cause she neva seh de white part? </div></div>

why do you say native american &amp; not red? why do you say asian and not yellow? you use geography except when it comes to africa?
the native american thing is trendy because they are a sympathetic noble savage figure that pose no threat to white hegemony...plus it absolves them of a little of the guilt of stolen land &amp; genocide..

i bet you rarely if ever hear whites talking about they have black/afrikan ancestry, nor east asian ancestry...

[Nunya]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
why do you say native american &amp; not red? why do you say asian and not yellow? you use geography except when it comes to africa? </div></div>

Ah, I see the point you're making now... it was a bit obscured because well, you're a bit wordy.. but never mind...

As to the question: Don't you think there are those of us who claim the 'black' identifier instead of 'African' because it is the starkest of contrast to 'white'?

[kia027]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

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[franksterr]

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Sly is right we all everyday people but it is also true that their are some of those everyday people with power who make it their Job to persecute, prosecute and discriminate based on color, heritage, race, and ethnicity..........

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