"I'm not African-American"

[blugiant]

Re: "I'm not African-American"

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nunya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no problem with her recognizing the other 'colours' of her heritage. </div></div>

me neither but some others on here would </div></div>

da deeper qwestian iss y yuh ann nunya ave noo prablem widd recognizinn ar addar colors?

itt like dark skinned blakk jamaicans wey luv fe chatt bout dem oyinbo heritage fe bigg demselves wey doan ovatand demselves.

[kia027]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nunya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no problem with her recognizing the other 'colours' of her heritage. </div></div>

me neither but some others on here would </div></div>

da deeper qwestian iss y yuh ann nunya ave noo prablem widd recognizinn ar addar colors?

itt like dark skinned blakk jamaicans wey luv fe chatt bout dem oyinbo heritage fe bigg demselves wey doan ovatand demselves. </div></div>

well considering dat mi can look pon mi madda &amp; look pon mi fadda and see 2 different races mi can seh dat. considering dat many people come up to me depending wha mi a wear and chat in different languages. Mi fambly a un an a so it go fram mi likkle when smaddy ask mi whe mi fram mi seh jamaica cause mi is 100% jamaican up till 1703 (as far as we know no taino in the fambly line)

[franksterr]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: franksterr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=franksterr]In this world and this time to be African is considered worst than to be a &quot;nygger&quot; or black.
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let chat realitee wey de wurd africa ann african cum fram. itt nuh wan oyinbo ting. soo wat iff sum africans view de wurd africa as a slur cah itt mean burninn soul.

even mii ave chubble widd de wurd africa maybee dat y mii luv fe use blakk </div></div>

It depends on where you think the word coming from in ancients times blacks were known as
Khamites, Hamites means black or fertile.
Ethiopians means sun burned or kissed by God(Sunkissed)
The word in question is Arabic - <span style="font-style: italic">Afer</span> means earth.

For me its simple
A = Alpha - beginning or apex
FRI = free or fire or sun
Ka = Soul.

We all free to identify ourselves as we feel.....but in this society if your features are African - You is African......and to not know that can lead very awkward social situations or worst loss of life. You can fool yourself all you want that remains the reality today.
Our dear president's mother is European, what or how does the world perceive him??? As Our first African/American president.
Who on here think he could pass for white/European? </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mii affii goo reread ivan van sertima.

wen mii google sertima ann afrika, mii cum upp widd de wurd afri-uka. mii tink mii memba readinn lang thyme aggoo. dat cum fram blakk kemet peeps natt arabic.</div></div>
Good move.....So we now both agree it is NoT an &quot;oyinbo ting&quot; nor does it mean &quot;burnin soul&quot;.
<span style="color: #FF0000">Afri-uka </span> it my understanding is a derivitive of <span style="color: #FF0000">Al Ke Bulan </span> which means land of the blacks or of <span style="color: #FF0000">Afu Ra Ka</span> - Lands of the Spirit.....The word has a long history but Africa the way we say it and pronounce and the route it took to get in the English language was an Arabic one.
The &quot;burnin&quot; would have to do with &quot;ethiop&quot; and not &quot;afer&quot; which has to do with earth dust land.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yu ave de dogon peeps woo descended fram da blakk peeps fram kemet ann iff dem raise qwestians bout de wurd africa mii nah dismiss tings mii doan kno ann ovatand. iff sum blakk peeps ave qwestians bout da wurd africa, we ave a respansibilitee fe xxamine itt cah wii affii kno owaself. nomo iss bout de powar aff wurd. itt like blakk peeps widd slaves name still nuh ovatand de significance y so manee still keep de name aff dem enslavers.</div></div>

One has the right to question all things.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">to say we ar free fi indentifii owaselves as wi feel ignore histare ann de role itt play.</div></div>

No it does not.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">da qwestian iss y jesse jackson started fe chatt bout african americans ann dat produce a societical ann cultural change wearby moas blakk peeps inn america tarted fe cawl demselves african americans?</div></div>

The reason is political for Jesse, a way of letting negroes, blacks, afro-americans and to some extent coloreds know that they are African.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mii neva figgit wan rich oyinbo ooman, kerry wifeee, sed dat iff ar uusband wass elected shi wood ave been de furst african american furst ladee ann technicallee shi wood ave been rite
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Only to those who are confused by what it really means to be African

[R_C]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

Is there any other group of people on the planet who have as much difficulty knowing from whence they came ?

On the other hand, it's funny how quickly people from other tribes are able to figure out who we are.....


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&quot;What exactly happened at 6:45 p.m. on June 14, when Oprah Winfrey showed up at the Hermes boutique on the Rue Faubourg Saint Honore and was refused entrance? Was she actually turned away unrecognized as a shop employee murmured something about the store having a problem recently with North African women as some sources originally reported? Or was she in fact recognized and invited to come back, barred only because the store was closed for a private function? Depends on who you talk to.</div></div>

<span style="color: #CC0000">Source</span>

[jah_yout]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is there any other group of people on the planet who have as much difficulty knowing from whence they came ?</div></div>

No...
but it is understandable...after 400 years of hearing false his-story that afrika was a continent of backward savage heathens, who would want to identify with afrika?
it's only after learning the true history and accepting the true god will afrikans come to respect their heritage again...

the new knick sensation jeremy lin i usually hear a geographic description to describe his racial makeup- chinese or taiwanese...only one time- on a sign by a fan in the stands, did i see him described as the color yellow...

we always call south asians &quot;indians&quot;...we very rarely call them browns or blacks...
we call the indigenous natives &quot;indians&quot; or &quot;native americans&quot;...
rarely call them &quot;reds&quot;...

someone or something taught us that we should distance ourselves from afrika-- while they run off with its wealth...

but i also refer to so-called &quot;whites&quot; as european-americans whenever they refer to me as &quot;african-american

[R_C]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

It was ....and continues to be ....a mental holocaust.

[blugiant]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: franksterr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Good move.....So we now both agree it is NoT an &quot;oyinbo ting&quot; nor does it mean &quot;burnin soul&quot;.
<span style="color: #FF0000">Afri-uka </span> it my understanding is a derivitive of <span style="color: #FF0000">Al Ke Bulan </span> which means land of the blacks or of <span style="color: #FF0000">Afu Ra Ka</span> - Lands of the Spirit.....The word has a long history but Africa the way we say it and pronounce and the route it took to get in the English language was an Arabic one.
The &quot;burnin&quot; would have to do with &quot;ethiop&quot; and not &quot;afer&quot; which has to do with earth dust land.



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mii knoo burninn affii doo widd ethiop butt wan educated afrikkan bredren told mii dat inn certain afrikkan languages de wurd afrikka meen burninn soul. since imm wass a cancious bredren, mii wood neva dissmiss imm cancern

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The original name of the East African country of Ethiopia was Abyssinia. “Ethiopia” was the name given to the country by the Greek colonizers, and it means, “land of the burnt faces.” The word “abyss” is derived from Abyssinia, and it means “a deep, dark hole.”</div></div>

da pint iss dat label need fe bee xxamined

[blugiant]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: franksterr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

One has the right to question all things.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">to say we ar free fi indentifii owaselves as wi feel ignore histare ann de role itt play.</div></div>

No it does not.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">da qwestian iss y jesse jackson started fe chatt bout african americans ann dat produce a societical ann cultural change wearby moas blakk peeps inn america tarted fe cawl demselves african americans?</div></div>

The reason is political for Jesse, a way of letting negroes, blacks, afro-americans and to some extent coloreds know that they are African.


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dat de pint sum peeps wey ave issue widd de label aff african american iss qwestianinn its legitimacee because dem qwestianinn wat itt represent.

yu add jesse runninn fe politrixx chattinn bout afrikkan american ann den oyinbo media tart fe runn widd itt ann now a latt aff blakks acceptinn itt widdout lookinn att de politrixx behind itt. aftah de merican civil war oyinbo started fe cawl blakks african american ann lincoln tarted fe figgar out oww fe dipped awl blakks bakk to africa. de former slaves refused fe be label bye oyinbo ann cantinued fe refer to demselves as blakks. blakks dealt widd racism ann de struggle against a global racist peeps dat unite awl blakk peeps undar wan umbrella. african american label change dat dynamic ann weaken blakk peeps argument versus global institutional racism cah itt chatt bout a specific group aff peeps natt de unification aff awl blakks. widd jesse histaee mii doan tink imm purpose wass fe mekk blakk peeps identifi widd africa. oyinbo media ran widd de african american label beecause itt strenghten oyinbo defense aff racism cah itt reduced de significance aff aff race ann racism. iff de former slaves dose woo were closer to africa dan us tidday ave issues widd de afrikan american label, dat to mee mekk mii qwestian itt even more

[blugiant]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nunya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no problem with her recognizing the other 'colours' of her heritage. </div></div>

me neither but some others on here would </div></div>

da deeper qwestian iss y yuh ann nunya ave noo prablem widd recognizinn ar addar colors?

itt like dark skinned blakk jamaicans wey luv fe chatt bout dem oyinbo heritage fe bigg demselves wey doan ovatand demselves. </div></div>

well considering dat mi can look pon mi madda &amp; look pon mi fadda and see 2 different races mi can seh dat. considering dat many people come up to me depending wha mi a wear and chat in different languages. Mi fambly a un an a so it go fram mi likkle when smaddy ask mi whe mi fram mi seh jamaica cause mi is 100% jamaican up till 1703 (as far as we know no taino in the fambly line) </div></div>

frederick douglas wen sum blakk wass challenginn imm commitments fiteinn fe rites aff blakk cah imm wifee wass wan oyinbo feminist sed imm furst wifee wass a blakk slaves ann imm just xxperiencinn boat side aff imm heritage cah imm wass a mixxed race parsan. itt like marley cantradiction chattinn bout imm nuh deh pon blakk ar oyinbo side cah imm mixxed wild embracinn a blakk god

de realitee iss dat beyonce ave issue widd blakkness dat chatt bout ar addar colors xxcept blakk

[jah_yout]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">itt like marley cantradiction chattinn bout imm nuh deh pon blakk ar oyinbo side cah imm mixxed wild embracinn a blakk god</div></div>

why should he be on one side?

should someone support a one who is doing evil just because he happens to be the same color as him?
you are running with one quote that is misleading &amp; reducing marley's entire legacy to one quote-- which is pretty ridiculous;
what about quotes like &quot;we afrikans will fight&quot;...what about quotes like &quot;we are the black survivors&quot;...what about quotes like &quot;god come black&quot;...

nyabinghi creed says death to black &amp; white oppressors...
man naw partial

[jah_yout]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mii knoo burninn affii doo widd ethiop butt wan educated afrikkan bredren told mii dat inn certain afrikkan languages de wurd afrikka meen burninn soul</div></div>

what about the people who say they are Nubian...
that was big a while back...and still big with the 5% nation of gods &amp; earths;

if you deny afrika based on the name, then just create another name...
you call yourself black, yet that word/color also can be seen as a negative word depending on who is using it for what...

i.e.<span style="font-style: italic"> today was the blackest day in the history of the republic</span>

blackmail
blacklist
black comedy
black eye
black heart

[franksterr]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

mii knoo burninn affii doo widd ethiop butt wan educated afrikkan bredren told mii dat inn certain afrikkan languages de wurd afrikka meen burninn soul. since imm wass a cancious bredren, mii wood neva dissmiss imm cancern</div></div>

And some say to the ancient Greeks it meant the land of the Gods, even one Pharaoh of Egypt was so Named


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The original name of the East African country of Ethiopia was Abyssinia. “Ethiopia” was the name given to the country by the Greek colonizers, and it means, “land of the burnt faces.” The word “abyss” is derived from Abyssinia, and it means “a deep, dark hole.”</div></div>

One Could argue that the original name was Cush/Kush anyway my understanding about the word Abyssinia (means mixed) is the name given to that country by the Arabs.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">da pint iss dat label need fe bee xxamined </div></div>

Agreed

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">dat de pint sum peeps wey ave issue widd de label aff african american iss qwestianinn its legitimacee because dem qwestianinn wat itt represent.</div></div>

Point taken

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yu add jesse runninn fe politrixx chattinn bout afrikkan american ann den oyinbo media tart fe runn widd itt ann now a latt aff blakks acceptinn itt widdout lookinn att de politrixx behind itt. aftah de merican civil war oyinbo started fe cawl blakks african american ann lincoln tarted fe figgar out oww fe dipped awl blakks bakk to africa. de former slaves refused fe be label bye oyinbo ann cantinued fe refer to demselves as blakks.</div></div>

I think the word would be Negro, a spanish word.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">blakks dealt widd racism ann de struggle against a global racist peeps dat unite awl blakk peeps undar wan umbrella. african american label change dat dynamic ann weaken blakk peeps argument versus global institutional racism cah itt chatt bout a specific group aff peeps natt de unification aff awl blakks. widd jesse histaee mii doan tink imm purpose wass fe mekk blakk peeps identifi widd africa. oyinbo media ran widd de african american label beecause itt strenghten oyinbo defense aff racism cah itt reduced de significance aff aff race ann racism. iff de former slaves dose woo were closer to africa dan us tidday ave issues widd de afrikan american label, dat to mee mekk mii qwestian itt even more</div></div>

The French blacks tried to unite all blacks under the banner of Negritude and the spansih comrades under the banner Negrismo both movement experince some success but none coalesce into an international movement like - Pan Africanism/Ethiopianism......black was never a common term among diaspora African Movements.

The Word AFRICAN immediately brings you to Africa, unlike Negro and even further still Black. The Old argument for the use of the word negro was that at its origin it was an African word, and so an attempt was made to reclaim and redeem it. Much Like how todays youth are trying to expiate they word &quot;n i g g e r &quot; though they dont know that is what they are doing.

[Emperah]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

LAWD unno still a gwaan wid dis?
Unno love waste unno time ee?
Unno cyaan si seh nuff a fi wi ppl would raddah gravitate to all dem oddah ancestry den de dominant one dem? Even no mattah how de one dem dat dem a gravitate tuh did a try fi hundreds and hundred of years fi kill out de dominance.
Unno cyaan si seh nuff a wi ppl ashamed a dem African ancestry no mattah how wide dem nose is, how much melanin inna dem skin, how much weave ar relaxah dem haffee dash inna dem head fi mek dem feel bettah bout demself (dem wi tell yuh it easiyah fi tek care a) no mattah how much evidence di deh...

cho, leff dem alone nuh, unno nuh si seh dem love it an comfortable wid it?

[Gen]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

a weak

[CyberPhobic]

Re: &quot;I'm not African-American&quot;

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Emperah_dahJah2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LAWD unno still a gwaan wid dis?
Unno love waste unno time ee?
Unno cyaan si seh nuff a fi wi ppl would raddah gravitate to all dem oddah ancestry den de dominant one dem? Even no mattah how de one dem dat dem a gravitate tuh did a try fi hundreds and hundred of years fi kill out de dominance.
Unno cyaan si seh nuff a wi ppl ashamed a dem African ancestry no mattah how wide dem nose is, how much melanin inna dem skin, how much weave ar relaxah dem haffee dash inna dem head fi mek dem feel bettah bout demself (dem wi tell yuh it easiyah fi tek care a) no mattah how much evidence di deh...

cho, leff dem alone nuh, unno nuh si seh dem love it an comfortable wid it? </div></div>

BOAL! DJ yuh nuh E Z ennuh.