New: One more time - should ganja be legalized?

[Emperah]

I have too. I have posted enough proof fi bruk dung de board but you nevah did read it.

what u have posted is de bogus writings to make ppl believe wah dem waan ppl fi believe about ganja to foster the corporate agenda. It has nothing to do with truth whatsoever. Testimonies of ppl have been posted bout how it help dem, and wah it duh fi dem many times, yet u continue this tirade u have against ganja based on belief and not facts.

I even posted bout a ooman who juices the leaves and how much it has helped her and pretty much gotten rid of her MS, she can now function and go bout har life. Yuh tink is lie shi a tell? I posted vid of scientist who chat bout de benefits, is lie dem a tell as well. I have had bronchitis most of my life. Back in the 90's I decided to try and make some tea out of stock and leaves mi bredren gimmie caz him neh waan gimmie de budd from him hear seh mi a guh waste him sinting fi drink. From that day I became a KNOWER (which is different from a believer) as it cleared up all congestion in my lungs within less than two hours.
That day I was too sick to go to work, I had that flu feeling like when yuh get up ya guh faint. Later that day I drove to detroit and went to the record shop.
I remember it like yessideh, Detroit wasn't that far as I lived in Strathroy at de time.

[Tropicana]

A REPORT

OF THE

NATIONAL COMMISSION ON GANJA

TO

Rt. Hon. P.J. PATTERSON, Q.C., M.P.
PRIME MINISTER OF JAMAICA



PREPARED BY:

Professor Barry Chevannes, Chairman
Reverend Dr. Webster Edwards
Mr. Anthony Freckleton
Ms. Norma Linton, Q.C.
Mr. DiMario McDowell
Dr. Aileen Standard-Goldson
Mrs. Barbara Smith


CONCLUSIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS





The National Commission on Ganja accepts that ganja is not entirely safe. Despite its proven folk medicinal qualities, its use can be injurious to health. There is evidence that for those who smoke it the inhalation of tar and other compounds can affect the lungs; that users can experience short term memory loss and delayed reaction time; and that among young people it can retard the learning process.

Take special note of this as I have said this a zillion time but onoo naw list.

There is also documented evidence that the substance can produce in some people a mentally disturbed state of ganja psychosis.

At UHWI they can speak with authority on this as young people have been turning up with this in their psych unit fi NUFF decades now.

Notwithstanding these and other ill effects, the Commission is of the view that many, if not most, persons who use ganja in moderation suffer no apparent short or long term debility. Not only that, but its reputation among the people as a panacea and a spiritually enhancing substance is so strong that it is must be regarded as culturally entrenched. As a result, the practice of criminalising the users of small quantities does far more harm than good to the society as a whole. The Commission is mindful also that there are legally available substances that have been shown to have physiological and psychological ill-effects that, based on current evidence, are more injurious than those of ganja. Such is the case with alcohol and tobacco.


It is the view of the Commission that the punitive sanctions administered by the justice system to users of small quantities is not only unjust but is a major source of disrespect and contempt for the legal system as a whole. Moreover, the punishment meted out to such offenders has not had and is not likely to have the desired effect of a deterrent. Administering the present laws as they apply to possession and use of small quantities of ganja not only puts an unbearable strain on the relationship of the police with the communities, in particular the male youth, but also ties up the justice system and the work of the police, who could use their time to much greater advantage in the relentless pursuit of crack/cocaine trafficking.


Accordingly the Commission recommends as follows:

• that the relevant laws be amended so that ganja be decriminalised for the private, personal use of small quantities by adults;
• that decriminalisation for personal use should exclude smoking by juveniles or by anyone in premises accessible to the public;
• that ganja should be decriminalised for use as a sacrament for religious purposes;
• that a sustained all-media, all-schools education programme aimed at demand reduction accompany the process of decriminalisation, and that its target should be, in the main, young people;
• that the security forces intensify their interdiction of large cultivation of ganja and trafficking of all illegal drugs, in particular crack/cocaine;
• that, in order that Jamaica be not left behind, a Cannabis Research Agency be set up, in collaboration with other countries, to coordinate research into all aspects of cannabis, including its epidemiological and psychological effects, and importantly as well its pharmacological and economic potential, such as is being done by many other countries, not least including some of the most vigorous in its suppression; and that as a matter of great urgency Jamaica embark on diplomatic initiatives with its CARICOM partners and other countries outside the Region, in particular members of the European Union, with a view (a) to elicit support for its internal position, and (b) to influence the international community to re-examine the status of cannabis.

http://www.cannabis-med.org/science/Jamaica.htm

[Tropicana]

what u have posted is de bogus writings to make ppl believe wah dem waan ppl fi believe about ganja to foster the corporate agenda.

Emperah you always dismiss anything that you do not agree with as bogus...this is a major character flaw that you need to address and rectify immediately. Your head is even t'icker dan mine.

It has nothing to do with truth whatsoever. Testimonies of ppl have been posted bout how it help dem, and wah it duh fi dem many times, yet u continue this tirade u have against ganja based on belief and not facts.

Not true. I guess the difference between you and me is that I see value in controlled, empirical scientific studies while you dismiss them as bogus. I do not put much weight on personal anecdotal evidence while you seem to put heavy weight on it. I am sorry but all of these scientists and medical practitioners are not just furthering the corporate agenda. How can you fairly and objectively say that?

I even posted bout a ooman who juices the leaves and how much it has helped her and pretty much gotten rid of her MS, she can now function and go bout har life. Yuh tink is lie shi a tell?

She is posting her personal perceptions. This is hardly a controlled scientific study.

I posted vid of scientist who chat bout de benefits, is lie dem a tell as well.

One compared to the gazillion studies I have posted that say the opposite.

I have had bronchitis most of my life. Back in the 90's I decided to try and make some tea out of stock and leaves mi bredren gimmie caz him neh waan gimmie de budd from him hear seh mi a guh waste him sinting fi drink. From that day I became a KNOWER (which is different from a believer) as it cleared up all congestion in my lungs within less than two hours. That day I was too sick to go to work, I had that flu feeling like when yuh get up ya guh faint. Later that day I drove to detroit and went to the record shop.

Again that is your personal experience. I am not discounting it, however, how do you know that the ganja - THC (delta-9-tetrahyrdrocannabinol) - was the effective ingredient. Has there been an analysis of all of the substances in the beverage?

I remember it like yessideh, Detroit wasn't that far as I lived in Strathroy at de time.

I am not discounting your personal experience but without an analysis of the ingredients in the beverage you can't say for sure that it is the THC that is the effective ingredient. You are highly intelligent but you are not a chemist and can't possibly assess that.

So question for you, do you basically dismiss all scientific studies and research as bogus and an attempt to further the corporate agenda? Are you saying that the physicians at UHWI are in cahoots with the corporate elites? Do you also dismiss their research on sickle cell...a lot of the early research on sickle cell was conducted in Jamaicans. The Americans were afraid to touch it for reasons that are beyond the scope of this discussion. If they have enough integrity to do the sickle cell studies and you are not discounting them, why do you think they lack the integrity to do the ganja studies?

[Tropicana]

This is no longer live but you can see it through the cache. These studies were conducted at UHWI:

cache:www.cannabisculture.com/articles/59.html

Ganja medicine in Jamaica


Jamaican researchers have developed legal marijuana medicines.
By Pete Brady - Sunday, January 16 2000

GLAUCOMA PRESSURE

Your eyes are infused with a fluid called aqueous humor that keeps them round, nourished and juicy. The pressure inside your eyes is called intraocular pressure, and is partially the result of a balance between the production, inflow and outflow of aqueous humor. If this balance is upset and your intraocular pressure rises to abnormally high levels, you are a victim of glaucoma.


As in the case of Robert Randall, president of Alliance for Cannabis Therapeutics and the first US glaucoma sufferer to win formal government approval for using cannabis as a glaucoma buster, raised eye pressure leads to destruction of the retina and other important parts of the eye. You gradually lose vision, and eventually may become totally blind.


EYE AND EYE
Dr Manley West is an emeritus professor and administrator who runs a pharmacology lab at the University of the West Indies (UWI) campus in Kingston. He has worked with ophthalmologist Dr Albert Lockhart on pioneering research that turns raw ganja into specialty medicines for glaucoma and other disorders.
West and Lockhart were trained at prestigious academies in England, Scotland and the United States. West has been the head of UWI's pharmacology department, and has nearly 40 years of experience in medicine and health. Lockhart has 36 years experience as a researcher and ophthalmologist. The lauded duo has received two of Jamaica's highest medical honors: the Order of Merit for Medicine and the Musgrave Gold Medal. Why were they honored? Because they created Canasol, a ganja-based medicine that helps decrease intraocular pressure with none of the side effects caused by other treatments.


West explained that he and Lockhart began studying cannabis-glaucoma pharmacology in the early 1970's. Scientists had long known that cannabis lowered intraocular pressure, but instead of utilizing whole smoked cannabis, American researchers spent millions of dollars on a poorly-designed topical THC eyedrop treatment that had caused eye irritation and failed to decrease intraocular pressure.


While Randall smoked ganja, found it a miracle medicine,

Anecdotal not scientific.

.....and fought the US government's attempts to prevent him from using it,

West and Lockhart were doing innovative experiments to determine which ganja constituents were responsible for marijuana's anti-glaucoma effects. The Jamaican government granted them an official new drug certification for Canasol in February 1983.

"It was a breakthrough," West explained. "I had long been interested in finding therapeutic compounds derived from natural origins. Glaucoma hits blacks sooner in life, progresses faster, and more often results in blindness. About 100,000 of our 3 million island population has it. Other glaucoma medications produced side effects, and the only other treatment was surgery, which is also risky. We wanted a safer, more affordable medicine for Jamaicans. Canasol appears to be the answer. It works within minutes to lower pressure, even in patients who have rare forms of glaucoma or have not responded well to other treatments."


MED-POT POLITICS


Dr Lockhart, who resides in Jamaica and in Dallas, Texas, said he first became interested in ganja's possible medical benefits in 1971.


"The fishermen told us that ganja improved their vision at night," Lockhart explained. "Some people had dismissed that as only an imagined improvement, but we looked into it, and found that ganja was affecting blood flow to the retina."


Although early research and cultural lore indicated promising medical uses for ganja, West and Lockhart found their development of cannabis therapeutics complicated by drug war politics, as well as the daunting realities of pharmaceutical research, development and approval processes.


"Jamaica has a traditional ganja culture," said Lockhart, who augmented his medical training by earning an MBA in 1986. "That may have made it easier for us to get approval, beginning in 1972, for strictly-regulated research protocols and collection of ganja for medical purposes. We also received government business assistance in the 1980's that helped form a corporation to assist in manufacture and marketing."


Citing drug war politics and fear of persecution, West and Lockhart were extremely reluctant to discuss details of their Jamaican ganja research, but reports they've published regarding animal and human test procedures used to measure the efficacy of ganja pharmaceuticals indicates they had access to high-quality marijuana, and that constituents from the miracle plant were isolated via physical, chemical, temperature, and filtration manipulations, then given to people and animals with glaucoma and other ailments.


Lockhart indicated that Jamaican government agencies and officials, including the Ministry of Security and Justice, the Ministry of Environmental Control and Health, the Police Commissioner, and local police agencies were instrumental in ensuring a safe, legal supply of raw cannabis. Ironically, their source is plants seized from other ganja growers.


"We have Jamaica pretty well mapped out," Lockhart explained. "The police know that if they seize what looks to be high grade ganja, they are to call us so we can determine if this is a possible research material source."

Notice they had cooperation from authorities...clearly not a case of corporate elites trying to further their own agenda.

[Tropicana]

Continued:

MANY MEDICINES


In an article published in the West Indies Medical Journal in 1978, West wrote: "Sun-dried whole plant (cannabis sativa) was obtained from the Police Department. The material was carefully examined for extraneous matter. A macerate was made which contained 5% w/v of whole cannabis. The solution was filtered using Whatman's No. 1 filter paper and the solution rapidly sterilized using a sintered glass filter (5 on 3) with a porosity of 1 to 1.5 microns. The sterilized solution was distributed aseptically into eye drop containers and stored in a cool dark place above freezing point."


Neither West nor Lockhart would elaborate on the exact procedures used to transform the above-mentioned solution into a prescription medicine, although Lockhart did say that a stable "powder" had been made in sufficient quantity to supply the experimenters with all the "principle" they needed to conduct numerous experiments and to make stable pharmaceutical preparations. Canasol has been stored at varying temperatures for eight years, West noted, and had no significant loss of potency.
During the 1980's and 90's, West said, thousands of vials of Canasol have been tested and used as a topical eye medicine in Jamaica, Europe, the Caribbean, the South Pacific and other areas.



"It has no reported side-effects," West emphatically stated, "which makes it safer than the standard chemical glaucoma medications. It acts very quickly, both as a preventive and in situations of acute onset, to lower intraocular pressure. Patients report excellent results and ease of use, and doctors are quite happy to have Canasol in their therapeutic arsenal. It is part of the curriculum in medical schools, during courses that discuss drugs affecting the eye."


With Canasol increasingly accepted by doctors and patients worldwide, the Jamaican researchers turned their attention to other medical uses of ganja constituents. In 1990, they released Asmasol, a cannabis derivative that helps relieve asthma attacks.


"Asmasol is useful during both the acute phase of an asthma attack, and as a preventive during the impending phase," West explained, adding that he and Lockhart have also created Canavert, a ganja-based treatment for motion sickness, and are working on Cantimol, another glaucoma medication slated for imminent release.
More research is planned, as the imaginative team looks into ganja's effects on nausea, arthritis, pain and migraine headaches.


"This plant has hundreds of potentially helpful constituents," West explains. "It is useful for many conditions, and is a storehouse of amazing proportions."


BLINDED IN BABYLON


The US Institute of Medicine report issued in early 1999 claimed that smoking cannabis causes health and psychological problems, and recommended that "safer" cannabis delivery systems be developed.


It would appear that the medicines developed by Lockhart and West met those criteria years ago.


"Everybody wants to find out how we got rid of the psychoactive components and isolated the active principles," Lockhart explained. "They even went to our manufacturer and government officials, trying to get information.

This is extremely important and addresses the point in my last post.

They are confused by a mindset that holds that THC is the only active principle. But there is more than one variety of this plant, and many different combinations. We have tested these principles on every part of the body, including injecting into the brain. We have reams and reams of data on how this works. We have had no reports that these therapies have a systemic affect on patients in a way that would be described as psychoactive."

But reams of data didn't impress the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA), which means that Canasol and other ganja pharmaceuticals developed by the Jamaican researchers cannot be legally obtained as prescription drugs in the US. Lockhart admits to being frustrated about the FDA blockade, but says the agency estimated that it would cost the Jamaican team tens of millions of dollars to pay for research needed to obtain US approval of Canasol.

"The FDA doesn't recognize foreign experiments. It doesn't consider our dogs, rats, cats and people as valid test subjects, because they are not American test subjects," Lockhart quipped. "They seemed interested in having us hand it over to a big corporation. It was actually quite funny, when some companies wanted to pay us a pittance for our work, to give up all our rights to it. An insult really. And the FDA policy was to deny the medical value of any natural derivative of cannabis, but they allowed the synthetic derivative, Marinol, and that derivative was of very limited application. US medical journals also discriminate against research done outside the United States. We are two little guys from a Third World country. We do this for knowledge and to help people. We test our discoveries and find those that work safely, then we publish the results. But we do not have enough money to challenge the US authorities."

Lockhart and West reported that clinical trials and anecdotal information indicate that Canasol is safe and effective. Lockhart said that the only problems they'd encountered occurred when a few vials of Canasol produced mild, temporary eye discomfort. The problem was corrected by creating a different type of vial.

Studies have not been replicated by other researchers or medical practitioners. They still need to be replicated in order to have scientific validity.

BTW this is the process that was used for sickle cell research and studies of contraceptives like depo provera. The research is first done in Jamaica by the MRC team (Medical Research Council Epidemiology Unit and Department of Medicine, University Hospital of the West Indies) and then it is replicated by other scientists and medical researchers once the compounds are deemed to be safe....read that as safe enough to be tested on American white people....that is a WHOLE other issue which we won't get into here.

[Wahalla]

Cannasol works.... not in all cases in most cases, that is not anecdotal it is an established fact......Smoking a spliff lowers eye ball pressure make it pure sensi...

The US has a history of denying cheap non us produced medicine... The Cuban sugar cane based insulin treatment... And my bete noir... Artimisin based on Chinese research....However having said that Lariam the less effective but gives a great hallucinogenic experience, legally I had the pleasue of it when I was in Liberia in the late 90's !!!! Cannabis has alergesic effects both as a mild tea, however administering it is as smoke is a more rapid vector.... seems like UWI agrees with Wahalla scientific and folkloric knowledge and seeks to validate.....


More research is planned, as the imaginative team looks into ganja's effects on nausea, arthritis, pain and migraine headaches.


But then Nabilone already exists....

[Tropicana]

The active ingredients of cannabis


Cannabis contains a large variety of different chemical compounds. With already well over 500 known constituents, cannabis is one of the chemically best studied plants. But because most of these constituents have not yet been properly characterized for biological activity, the cannabis plant could be called a “neglected pharmacological treasure trove”. Many of the cannabis constituents can also be found in other plant species. However, the cannabinoids are unique to the cannabis plant alone.

Resin glands
The most interesting constituents are those found in the secretions of resin glands (trichomes) distributed across the surface of the Cannabis plant. Although trichomes can be found all over the male and female plants, they are particularly concentrated in the area of the female flowers. The excreted resinous material is made up of a mixture of different chemicals, the most important of which are the cannabinoids and terpenes. The outer layer of the excreted material is made up of a wax layer, which protects the other chemicals from oxidation and degradation. Because of its sparkly appearance under strong light, the resin glands are often referred to as ‘crystals’.

CannabinoidsCannabinoids are unique chemical structures that can only be found in the cannabis plant. They are generally accepted as the main medicinal ingredients of cannabis.

This is important.

The most commonly known cannabinoid is tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), which is also the compound that is responsible for getting high after consuming larger amounts of cannabis. Because of this psychotropic effect, THC is often referred to as the active constituent of cannabis.

However, already more than 70 different cannabinoids have been identified so far. These compounds have a chemical structure that is much related to THC, but their biological effects are quite different and they have (virtually) no psychotropic potential.

Terpenes

The terpenes are the chemicals that give cannabis its distinct smell. Cannabis contains a large number as well as a significant amount of terpenes. These compounds can be easily evaporated and are consequently inhaled by smoking or vaporizing. Already more than 120 different terpenes have been identified in cannabis, and there relative composition can be very different between cannabis strains. In fact, drug search dogs are trained to recognize specific terpenes in order to find cannabis. The cannabis terpenes have a wide range of known biological effects, such as anti-inflammatory, antibiotic or analgesic. Some terpenes may also be involved in regulating and/or changing the effects of THC and other cannabinoids.

Cannabis varieties
Different strains of cannabis produce a different spectrum of chemical constituents. Some constituents may be only produced by very specific strains, or the same constituents may be present, but in different relative amounts. As a result, the medicinal properties of cannabis strains may vary widely. Because of the large number of constituents to be considered, it is still very hard to study scientifically how the chemical composition of a cannabis strain is related to its effect on different medical conditions.
The Dutch official cannabis grower Bedrocan is developing chemically distinct cannabis varieties with a different profile of cannabinoids and terpenes. At this moment, 4 different cannabis varieties are available through Dutch pharmacies. New varieties are being developed as part of Bedrocan’s ongoingResearch and Development program. Any new variety needs to be fully standardized to guarantee a reproducible and reliable chemical composition.

[Emperah]

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[Tropicana]

Come come now Emperah. After all I have submitted, I expected a much more in depth response from you. Based on your response, you would think I had submitted this rather than reams of data.



Where is a good old reefer madness fill when I need one?

[lonewolf]

Today, 02:14 PM
Emperah "Testimonies of ppl have been posted bout how it help dem, and wah it duh fi dem many times, yet u continue this tirade u have against ganja based on belief and not facts."

I agree with you Emperah. I've seen it help people first hand. People such as Tropicana are self centered control freaks and are intolerant of anything except their own closed minded thought process.

Why would anyone want to deprive a person in pain from getting some kind of relief?

I even posted bout a ooman who juices the leaves and how much it has helped her and pretty much gotten rid of her MS

I know a lady that has MS. She smokes on a regular basis for relief, and says it helps her deal with the physical pain and destruction of the disease. She did NOT smoke ganja before she had the disease. She tried it as a last attempt at getting some type relief after conventional medicine failed.

I'm not making a statement that Ganja cures ANY DISEASE, but it certainly helps people deal with the pain and misery of certain diseases by giving them relief.

[My Looh]

I agree with you Emperah. I've seen it help people first hand. People such as Tropicana are self centered control freaks and are intolerant of anything except their own closed minded thought process.

Why would anyone want to deprive a person in pain from getting some kind of relief?



I know a lady that has MS. She smokes on a regular basis for relief, and says it helps her deal with the physical pain and destruction of the disease. She did NOT smoke ganja before she had the disease. She tried it as a last attempt at getting some type relief after conventional medicine failed.

I'm not making a statement that Ganja cures ANY DISEASE, but it certainly helps people deal with the pain and misery of certain diseases by giving them relief.

Yes, I agree also. A lady that goes to my gym (she only goes there to do mild excercise and to mostly soak in the hot tub and sit in the sauna) is in her 70s. Her body is riddled with arthritis, she just started smoking, she finds it helps ease her pain and she has been able to take herself off of some of the perscription meds that her doctor put her on which she claims have severe side effects. She also says ganja has put an end to a lifetime of suffereing from ensomnia.

[Emperah]

Come come now Emperah. After all I have submitted, I expected a much more in depth response from you. Based on your response, you would think I had submitted this rather than reams of data.

Your data is bogus, it's regurgitated bullfacts to support corporations who want to keep this belief bullshhhhh going.
You keep taking bout science and the bogus data you keep finding.
Scientific data (the real kind) involves ppl being tested with the substance with proof of what it can and cannot do.

I myself have submitted my own scientific proof, Milo has weighed in with scientific evidence, lonerwolf has weighed in with more scientific evidence as has Wahalla who have show where ppl have used it in what ever way with great benefits. But you deny all this because it is not in "there" controlled environment, so to you it's not scientific.

Even with the Canasol you dig an dig to find someone who said it nuh good an it nuh wukk. If that is so then why did big pharma in amerikkka offer the two scientist in Jamaica at UWI money for their Paton? Who only after dem tunn dung de likkle smalls did de american dem stawt fi seh how it nuh good?

[Tropicana]

Your data is bogus, it's regurgitated bullfacts to support corporations who want to keep this belief bullshhhhh going.
You keep taking bout science and the bogus data you keep finding.

Scientific data (the real kind) involves ppl being tested with the substance with proof of what it can and cannot do.

I myself have submitted my own scientific proof, Milo has weighed in with scientific evidence, lonerwolf has weighed in with more scientific evidence as has Wahalla who have show where ppl have used it in what ever way with great benefits. But you deny all this because it is not in "there" controlled environment, so to you it's not scientific.

Even with the Canasol you dig an dig to find someone who said it nuh good an it nuh wukk. If that is so then why did big pharma in amerikkka offer the two scientist in Jamaica at UWI money for their Paton? Who only after dem tunn dung de likkle smalls did de american dem stawt fi seh how it nuh good?

I posted a list of the sponsors of research in Jamaica and there is onl one corporate sponsor of one study Merck and it was not a study related to ganja. So your bogus research argument funded to further the interests of Babylon holds no water.

Any research that does not support your POV you dismiss as bogus. At least I am objective enough to present both sides. I am the one who dug up the information about the Canasol research and I had to dig really deep as it is now visible through cache. So why are you prepared to accept the Canasol research conducted by 2 medical researchers at UHWI's MRC that tend to support your POV but dismissing the other research conducted at MRC as bogus? Clearly I am not the one who is not being objective here Emperah.

you deny all this because it is not in "there" controlled environment, so to you it's not scientific.

Correct. There is a difference between anecdotal evidence and scientific evidence. Your personal experience is your personal experience but it is not validation as not even you know precisely what ingredient has lead to an improvement in your health.

I can't for the life of me understand why an intelligent man like you would put more weight on anecdotes than science. I have started a thread focusing on just that point.

http://www.jamaicans.com/forums/showthread.php?76478-Scientific-Data-amp-Journalistic-Sources-vs-Anecdotal-Evidence

Next thing you going tell me you believe in obeah based on anecdotal evidence.

You have submitted anecdotal evidence, ditto Milo, ditto Wahalla, and no I don't put much weight on that at all. Where is your scientific data? I'll grant you, you presented one promising scientific study related to ganja shrinking cancerous tumours in mice. It's a great start but it has not been replicated and the results have not been demonstrated on humans.

Finally, re: Canisol, if there are only two researchers in the world who can produce those results and it can't be replicated by anyone else, don't you see that as problematic. Perhaps they were able to produce the results in a highly controlled environment that is difficult or impossible to replicate. I don't know.

[Emperah]

How yuh mean mi nuh kno what made mi betta, I know exactly what it was. It was a full scientific experiment and the only other ingredient aside from de ting was water fi de tea
Bet yuh neh kno seh Jesus did bunn nuff ganja tuh. How yuh tink him get fi levitate an walk on wata, and heal de ppl

[Tropicana]

How yuh mean mi nuh kno what made mi betta, I know exactly what it was. It was a full scientific experiment and the only other ingredient aside from de ting was water fi de tea

You didn't do a chemical analysis of what was in the leaves did you?

Bet yuh neh kno seh Jesus did bunn nuff ganja tuh. How yuh tink him get fi levitate an walk on wata, and heal de ppl

Nice try.

I wonder if you will find this credible.

History of Ganja

http://www.ganca.net/eng/historyen.html