Women fight over dead man at burial - Semi-nude females clash before mourners

[Wahalla]

This has nothing to do with superiority except when it comes to morality or rather the lack of morality displayed by the people in the video.

Wahalla you and the female moderator with whom I engage in an exchange in this very discussion are the main ones who said this was "normal" and "common" behaviour. In fact, I have been branded as "elitist" for saying that this is inappropriate behavioiur and you have also thrown some not so nice works my way Sounds like condoning to me.

There is no single normal..... I said "It is not uncommon behaviour in Jamaica, so it is one aspect of normal. There is no fixed normal." It does not happen at every funeral.. but there are ratehr sexi outfits at funerals... There are fights at funerals or in the aftermath over the dead left.... be they physical fisticuffs or legal battles lasting decades....

clothes is not morality..

and i would not call u as elitist in a Jamaican setting.. Maybe in Kanada u are...

Have u noted that only u see this whole thing as a moral issue ?

[Tropicana]

There is no single normal..... I said "It is not uncommon behaviour in Jamaica, so it is one aspect of normal. There is no fixed normal." [

Total and complete balderdash.

It does not happen at every funeral.. but there are ratehr sexi outfits at funerals... There are fights at funerals or in the aftermath over the dead left.... be they physical fisticuffs or legal battles lasting decades....

It could not happen that often or the family I know that has run a funeral parlour in Jamaica for decades would have seen it. Not sure who you hang out with but this does not happen in any of the circles in which they travel or I travel. Remember, you pick your friends, not your relatives so mi not talkin' people used to dining from high table eidah. The family that owns the funeral parlour were dirt poor when they started out. Two sisters had to take turns and share a pair of shoes to go to a school event...the oldest sister tells of getting 5 prunes wrapped in a kerchief and tied with a ribbon one year from Santa Claus. Trashy behaviour and attire has NOTHING to do with income level. What I have always respected and admired about Jamaica is the many people who though poor carry themselves with dignity. Clean clothing, spotless houses, hard-working, well spoken, polite, no cloth ripping when they speak. That is what I am used to seeing in Jamaica...not dem deh hogs like on de video.

clothes is not morality..

I beg to differ with you...dressing like a flippin' slut or hooker is definitely immoral. Even the one with the red dress who was trying to break up the fight would be right at home on Jarvis Street or parts of West Queen St. in Toronto. I seriously wonder if they were not all hookers de way dem gwan.

and i would not call u as elitist in a Jamaican setting.. Maybe in Kanada u are...

Whatever.

Have u noted that only u see this whole thing as a moral issue ?

Really. Clearly you have not read the comments in this thread and the other disapproving of the behaviour so try again. I suggest that you clean your glasses.

[Wahalla]

It could not happen that often or the family I know that has run a funeral parlour in Jamaica for decades would have seen it. Not sure who you hang out with but this does not happen in any of the circles in which they travel or I travel. Remember, you pick your friends, not your relatives so mi not talkin' people used to dining from high table eidah. The family that owns the funeral parlour were dirt poor when they started out. Two sisters had to take turns and share a pair of shoes to go to a school event...the oldest sister tells of getting 5 prunes wrapped in a kerchief and tied with a ribbon one year from Santa Claus. Trashy behaviour and attire has NOTHING to do with income level. What I have always respected and admired about Jamaica is the many people who though poor carry themselves with dignity. Clean clothing, spotless houses, hard-working, well spoken, polite, no cloth ripping when they speak. That is what I am used to seeing in Jamaica...not dem deh hogs like on de video.


Again the fact that we are discussing it proves it happens.. so ur friends denying that it does not happen is absurd. And this was a one off bangaran... Teh song "Sami dead" is exactly about this kind of situation confrontation albeit about a man that cant ded!......As for the fashion show,,, that is how it is.. Alot of friends have repeatedly told me they are astonished by it, Jamaicans love dress up and funereal are just a show case as much as a passa passa...

It is not the first fist fight at a funeral in Jamaica nor will it be the last... there was on previously discussed on here where 12 women was this guys baby mother....it was in the hills of Manchester reported in the gleaner I believe..there have been shootings at funerals repeatedly....

Note the ladies clothes were clean and crisp.. So how does clean houses come into it...And I admittedly just watched the video now and was unsurprised....

the guy giving commentary was crass. but watch any video of confrontation in Jamaica and there is someone giveing commentry in that manner.......but calling the people hogs well is as crass as that guy using the Jamaican venacular.......

[j-kid]

Well...., wan ting shi can bi tankful for. Shi sure got ah good clean-out dat Christmas.

...the oldest sister tells of getting 5 prunes wrapped in a kerchief and tied with a ribbon one year from Santa Claus.

[Tropicana]

It could not happen that often or the family I know that has run a funeral parlour in Jamaica for decades would have seen it. Not sure who you hang out with but this does not happen in any of the circles in which they travel or I travel. Remember, you pick your friends, not your relatives so mi not talkin' people used to dining from high table eidah. The family that owns the funeral parlour were dirt poor when they started out. Two sisters had to take turns and share a pair of shoes to go to a school event...the oldest sister tells of getting 5 prunes wrapped in a kerchief and tied with a ribbon one year from Santa Claus. Trashy behaviour and attire has NOTHING to do with income level. What I have always respected and admired about Jamaica is the many people who though poor carry themselves with dignity. Clean clothing, spotless houses, hard-working, well spoken, polite, no cloth ripping when they speak. That is what I am used to seeing in Jamaica...not dem deh hogs like on de video.

Again the fact that we are discussing it proves it happens.. so ur friends denying that it does not happen is absurd.

I never said it didn't happen. I said this type of behaviour is not as widespread as some would like to make out.

And this was a one off bangaran... Teh song "Sami dead" is exactly about this kind of situation confrontation albeit about a man that cant ded!......As for the fashion show,,, that is how it is.. Alot of friends have repeatedly told me they are astonished by it, Jamaicans love dress up and funereal are just a show case as much as a passa passa...

It is not the first fist fight at a funeral in Jamaica nor will it be the last... there was on previously discussed on here where 12 women was this guys baby mother....it was in the hills of Manchester reported in the gleaner I believe..there have been shootings at funerals repeatedly....

Note the ladies clothes were clean and crisp.. So how does clean houses come into it...And I admittedly just watched the video now and was unsurprised....

I am giving a general description of the type of Jamaican with which I am familiar. I should have also added modestly attired. So you have been yapping your head off about normal behaviour and you had not even watched the video. fascinating!

the guy giving commentary was crass. but watch any video of confrontation in Jamaica and there is someone giveing commentry in that manner.......but calling the people hogs well is as crass as that guy using the Jamaican venacular.......

Well I don't care what you think. They behaved worse than hogs so the label is actually generous.

[Tropicana]

Well...., wan tin shi can bi tankful for. Shi sure got ah good clean-out dat Christmas.

I would have been very disappointed if Santa had brought me that for Christmas. At the time she thought it was one of the best presents she had ever received. It's her sisters that shared the 1 pair of shoes to go to the school event. One went and was to stay for a while and come home so the other could get the shoes to go. Unfortunately, the shoes did so cheap dat dem did mash up so the sister came home with the shoes in her hands. One of the heels had broken on.

Anyway, the family worked hard. They have all done really well. They have all helped in the family business at one time or another and not ONE of them has seen the type of thing that you are describing. Now seeing two women ketch up in dem shop and fight ovah man and weave get pull out...dat is another matter. They have seen that. (The girlfriend came in and attacked the wife...a doctor's wife. ) In fact we were down there at the time and my Mom just missed it. She did come in and see de hair from de weave pon de floor and get the story.

[dearjohn]

Unacceptable behavior all around.

[Tropicana]

Unacceptable behavior all around.

[Fancy DatdamnDiva]

[QUOTE=RichD;726026][QUOTE=Tropicana;725993]Read my keystrokes....I have used certain words to describe what is MY OPINION OF WHAT IS displayed in videos and photos. I have as much right to express my opinion as those who say "You go girl! Rock on " when they see slackness.

i fix it for you ..

yes nobody taking that right ...everybody have a right to use words to comment on your comments too.


so is all good...who want to cry can cry who want to whine can whine.

Two questions:

How do you differentiate between "country" and "di hills"?

Do you think that some Boardites could be "offended" because the over-the-top descriptions you use make you appear as classist and that you relish belittling common people so that, in some sick way, you could prove to yourself that you are morally superior?

you know, it is somewhat fascinating to see how threads that start off as one topic inevitably get spun into a dissertation on board treatment of a certain member, once that member enters the thread. i was kinda hoping to contribute info about the funeral arrangements of a member of my family, but i think i'll wait till the thread gets back on track.

secondly, wahalla - i want to love you unconditionally, but cannot get past this blasted thing u have gainst canada. a mea wadihell canada do u? mi really waan know. until then, is just conditional love for you the cultural disconnect among jamaicans themselves is a thing that is right there in jamaica, and it is disconcerting to experience it, much less realize it exists.

Tropi, dis may bi ah good opportunity fi duh som educational research? Jus let dem kno, is strictly scientific

doan kill mi yah

No I will pass on that and leave it to those who condone this type of behaviour and attire.


No one condone anything... neitehr did any one feel superior enough to assume our opinions give us leave to condemn...

There is no single normal..... I said "It is not uncommon behaviour in Jamaica, so it is one aspect of normal. There is no fixed normal." It does not happen at every funeral.. but there are ratehr sexi outfits at funerals... There are fights at funerals or in the aftermath over the dead left.... be they physical fisticuffs or legal battles lasting decades....

clothes is not morality..

and i would not call u as elitist in a Jamaican setting.. Maybe in Kanada u are...

Have u noted that only u see this whole thing as a moral issue ?

[Wahalla]

ONE of them has seen the type of thing that you are describing. Now seeing two women ketch up in dem shop and fight ovah man and weave get pull out...dat is another matter

This is an apt description of what happened at the funeral.....So women fighting over a man is not unheard of even in your moral circles.....There are men who have had multiple simultaneous sexual partners.....and their women at times clash,. offical partners who deny rival lovers access when in positions of power... and there are clashes....


and these jealous physical confrontations never happens at the sessions or passa passa or in tthe shops or even on schooler busses and at schools and yes in churches. *Want there a report last year of two rivals for a preacher catch up in church ____in the newspapers ???????.. if Shakespeare wrote a play on it 500 years ago then it would be literature.. So if u didnt care to notice or ignore what is not unheard of ???????

[Tropicana]

You are very confused. How could I be saying that this never happens when it is a plain as day in the video and I am the one who posted the video of the 2 women duking it out in the other thread as well as titles of a number of other videos that were so bad I could not post them?

No one denies that coarse behaviour goes on. There are coarse elements in all societies. My point it this is not the norm, common, acceptable, or moral. I merely asked what hovel these people crawled out of. This is certainly not the way decent people dress and is is not the behaviour of civilized people.

Why are we even HAVING this discussion? ANYBODY should be able to see this.

[Tropicana]

ONE of them has seen the type of thing that you are describing.

Let me make it bigger for you as you seem to be having trouble seeing.

This took place at their shoppe....not at their funeral parlour or at a funeral which is the subject of this discussion.

Yes the family has more than one business.

They had one incident in all these years in which 2 women did ketch up at their shoppe.... not the funeral parlour and not at a funeral.

Hair did get pull....weave did get rip-out.

People are coming in and saying this is common at funerals and I am saying this is total garbage as the family that runs the funeral parlour has never seen this at a funeral or in the funeral parlour.

Is my point clear now??

[Tropicana]

Reminds me of this commercial where people have to shout to get their point across.

[Tuff Gong]

If someone posts something and directs it at me personally and I do not find it funny or appropriate I let them know it. If they persist. I let them know it in stronger terms. If they still persist I tell them to perch and rotate or take a leap off the CN Tower.

..... and even when it not directed at you, you still adopt it, stalk the person and report on them?
I find it funny that you are only seeing what you described as whorish, thuggish behaivour in girls that fight and wear so-called slutty dress.
What about girls that wear modest clothes yet call their fellow board members john crows and invite other members to join in to fight folks who you think were calling your name, when you left the board for five minutes.
What is this was outside the board, would this kind of action, very likely to start a physical fight or are you only willing to start keyboard wars?