5 year old in handcuffs a warning to de black community

[Night Nurse]

Re: 5 year old in handcuffs a warning to de black community

Originally posted by Wendy:
[qb] .. go try do some reading pan people who have actually experience real racism in this country and see how they have turned their experiences to BUILD BRIDGES between the races. Bask in the amount of work they do to improve race relations and a dem a di wan weh bear di cross...not you and me.[/qb]

Mi nuh shame fi say dat a wha day yah mi get a full dose a dat wen mi visit South Africa and chat to di peeple dem a Soweto. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

We as a people MUST keep moving suh wi can gain di momentum and strength to build a bettah future fi wi kids and if fi nutt'n else wi must dweet in memory of wi ancestors. Dem nevah did vow fi die fighting juss suh wi can wallow inna self-pity and develop a blame mentality and den tunn roun use di struggle as a walking stick...seriously. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Mi naah sey figet bout di past or stop fite. Mi mean sey wi muss mekk a vow too. Start today to mekk sure sey wi a contribute someting back by using the past in a positive way and build a bettah future fi wi kidz. Addawize wi will fine wi-self a spin roun like gig and wi children wi haffi skip a whole generation when dem reach back. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70361-embarassed.gif[/img]

A visit to dat place mekk mi look pon tings in a different way. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

[NapiHead327]

Re: 5 year old in handcuffs a warning to de black community

Not taking sides, but I must say that the image alone me conjure some negative connotations re:slavery. I don't know if this is a racist incident, but if you're going to apply the slavery theory, then let's apply it to all aspects of the situation:

1. was it a 'slave' mentality that kept the mother from properly disciplining her child, ensuring she would not act up in school?

2. was it a system of capitalism slavery that prevented the mother from leaving work to attend to the situation at the school?

3. or to go even further, was it capitalist slavery that created a situation where mothers of young children are forced to work, leaving the care of their child in the hands of other?

Just for discussion...

[dahjah]

Re: 5 year old in handcuffs a warning to de black community

Napi, de whool a dem.
NN we haffee kip movin' yes, we dunn si wah hapm when ppl waan fe figget ourstory.

[Night Nurse]

Re: 5 year old in handcuffs a warning to de black community

Originally posted by NapiHead327:
[qb] Not taking sides, but I must say that the image alone me conjure some negative connotations re:slavery. I don't know if this is a racist incident, but if you're going to apply the slavery theory, then let's apply it to all aspects of the situation:

1. was it a 'slave' mentality that kept the mother from properly disciplining her child, ensuring she would not act up in school?

2. was it a system of capitalism slavery that prevented the mother from leaving work to attend to the situation at the school?

3. or to go even further, was it capitalist slavery that created a situation where mothers of young children are forced to work, leaving the care of their child in the hands of other?

Just for discussion... [/qb]

It could be all of the above, but the situation dat moyse a wi find wiself in from a capitalistic point of view, is clearly self inflicted.

Through greed and our aim to accumulate, accumulate, accumulate - our economic practices have made us into more effective slaves than Chicken George. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

We live in a capitalist WORLD...what are we going to do about it?

:SHRUG: I guess it is only fair to say that the change I expect from others, must begin with me. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70361-embarassed.gif[/img]

[NapiHead327]

Re: 5 year old in handcuffs a warning to de black community

Originally posted by nYC/N:
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:SHRUG: I guess it is only fair to say that the change I expect from others, must begin with me. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70361-embarassed.gif[/img] [/qb]

best thing I've heard all day... Ooh, NN, you so smart and wise! I wanna be juss like you when I turn 27!

[dahjah]

Re: 5 year old in handcuffs a warning to de black community

Originally posted by NapiHead327:
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Originally posted by nYC/N:
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:SHRUG: I guess it is only fair to say that the change I expect from others, must begin with me. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70361-embarassed.gif[/img] [/qb]

best thing I've heard all day... Ooh, NN, you so smart and wise! I wanna be juss like you when I turn 27! [/qb]

[img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img]

[777]

Re: 5 year old in handcuffs a warning to de black community

posting outta context..

fe the first time me view the video..
thanks sagal
and me have to admit that me got kinda angry just viewing it..
The tape wasnt done for no teaching likka dem sey..
it was done to document disruptive behavior, as is usually by teachers..but inna my days, its done pon paper..
The teacher did everything in her control to control the pikney..
She even tried restraining her for her own safety and yet the child didnt stop.
I did note that the child sat down when the cops came in but was breathing heavily...I guess from the *exertion* of trying to trash the place..
She (the child) has the sense the recognize the figure of authority (the police) and she was calm in their proesence..
so that lets me to know that *she knows* who fe mess with and who not too..
It also tells me that her cognitive abilities are in tact..
Hmmmmm... It would be interesting to note what was in her file in regards to when the behavior stated etc...maybe even looked at her file from daycare too to see what was going on there too..
Bet u any money, she was disruptive at a younger age also..
Yes, me get angry fe see the abuse that the child had been directing at the staff..
My thought though is why they hadnt gotten her in a *special class*, or if the parent hadnt signed for that resource, why hadnt they asked a judge to do so? and taken it out of the hand of the parent?
Me tink the principal musse did too young and no know what fe do..
This child should *not* have been in a regular classroom.. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

[britisha]

Re: 5 year old in handcuffs a warning to de black community

Originally posted by Wendy:
[qb] Hey J-Kid it goes far beyond even being a "Jamaican" .. some a dem comments would also imply dat ALL black people MUST think alike..

Seems as if dem still a live ina slavery days all a wi muss jain in to an live ina slavery wid dem. No sah .. mi read and hear how slavery did rough pan mi fore fadas dem .. mi nah go back deh so .. Unu wan can live deh ina bondage a continue to act like every badie whe no tink like unu or match unu skin color is di enemy. The enemy is within one's self! Dats all mi havi sey pan dah wan deh. [/qb]

Amazing that you should say this. Yuh membah when yuh did cum awwn yah and generalise and seh how black Americans can't cut it and in so many words wukliss to the extent that dem cyaan mek it innah di society but all dem duh is blame "the man?" Yuh membah? Wid a mindset like that mi noh think yuh really know what racism is..

Yuh a discriminate genst black Americans from dem time, so you are correct, "the enemy is within one's self!! [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/704555_dwl.gif[/img]

Pat cyaan cuss kekkle black..no pun intended

[Night Nurse]

Re: 5 year old in handcuffs a warning to de black community

Originally posted by NapiHead327:
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Originally posted by nYC/N:
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:SHRUG: I guess it is only fair to say that the change I expect from others, must begin with me. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70361-embarassed.gif[/img] [/qb]

best thing I've heard all day... Ooh, NN, you so smart and wise! I wanna be juss like you when I turn 27! [/qb]

[img]/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] That would be 30. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

[NapiHead327]

Re: 5 year old in handcuffs a warning to de black community

Better parenting is they key. Knowing and trusting your teachers is they key. Back in the day, my parents knew my teachers (when we were still in the hood), so they had all the right to whoop me if need be.

Today, parents don't know the teachers, and most of the teachers aren't from their neighborhoods, so if parents can't trust the teachers, why would they leave their children w/them?

[britisha]

Re: 5 year old in handcuffs a warning to de black community

Reading assignment: Franz Fanon: "Black Skin, White Mask."

Smaddie noh haffie in so many words call smaddie di "N" word fi some a dem know when racism rears it's ugly head. I emphatically stand by what I said, that this incident reeks of racism, and *MY* opinions are my own..mi no borrow dem nar pay fi dem.. tuh..

[777]

Re: 5 year old in handcuffs a warning to de black community

personally me noh see no evidence of racism here..
Parent was called and couldnt come..
they (the school) had to resort to the next step..
a bet u now, she will be in an alternative classroom and her behavior will be more closely monitored than before..
If u noh mind sharp, she will be diagnosed with some kinda problem and parent will be encouraged to place her on ridalin....
or the courts will decide her fate..

[dahjah]

Re: 5 year old in handcuffs a warning to de black community

Originally posted by 777:
[qb] personally me noh see no evidence of racism here..
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I wish i could get there but I can't.

I don't know how unno nuh seet. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70361-embarassed.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70361-embarassed.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70361-embarassed.gif[/img]

guh look pan de film again [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70361-embarassed.gif[/img]

[777]

Re: 5 year old in handcuffs a warning to de black community

My dad said many years ago, if I don't wax your hind, the authorities will, and they will not be loving and caring when they tear your *** up.

other dan the cursing...administrators beg u a moment deh!... [img]/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] , this ya statement is such a true one..

[777]

Re: 5 year old in handcuffs a warning to de black community

by Kia
but the reality is how many parents do? How many parents, especially black parents really put their childs' education (formal and otherwise) as a priority and remain actively involved

I do...
I find the time even if I am very busy or tired.
For me to find out what they are doing inna school is important. It sends a message to the teacher that *I* care..
and thats a very important message when someone is handling your child.