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Re: Comrade Dudley Thompson is dead
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">Name A politician in his position as minister of security who is not responsible for the death of (allegedly) innocents or angels?
It is the nature of power, that with it sometimes comes the responsibility of make decisions that involves life and death.....or taking responsibility for it.</span>
This is the identical thesis postulated by all and sundry to justify evil...Assad is using it, Gaddaffi used it, Castro used it, Somoza used it, GEary used it, Coard used it, the colonilist use it, Columbus used it .. <span style="font-weight: bold">Under Jamaican law it does not justify</span>..</div></div>
The fact that actions taken were wrong does not mean that the reason given is not true.....nearly every President, King or Prime Minster is Guilty of the death of people whom others claim were innocents.....Such is the nature of Power and Authority.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Contrary to your opinion The courts in Jamaica ruled the Killings Justified
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">To shoot unarmed civilains none of whom were wanted in connection with any crime by offering them work pales.. The men who survived were not charged with any crime.....</div></div>
They were members of A notorious criminal organization know as the "Skulls" and quite a few of them were convicted of various crimes.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And yes there is justification for bombing Dresden and Hiroshima, but to invite people to a kill zone and open fire without warning ??????? What War ??????</div></div>
At the time in Jamaica Gangs such as the ones they belong to were known to kill people wantonly, who they though or deemed members or supporters of the opposite political party.
UNDER HEAVY MANNERS - is a euphemenism for Martial Law.
Keep it in Context I said "near civil war" A State of Emergency was declared, Indefinite detentions was common, heavily arm military personell was a common sight on the streets, so was equally heavily arms bandits - death squads, Curfew was in place, bombs were being dropped on revolutionaries in Wareika Hills, and pitch battles were being fought in the streets.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If the minister in charge was not aware of Green Bay prior he was incompetent...... if he was he sanctioned it...</div></div>
You think that if you have a team of thousand, you can know what each of them is doing at any given time. One must trust in their training and professionalism.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As for the CIA, I could equally argue that angels from heaven came down and set these guys up as an option.</div></div>
Really ex CIA agents are on records as to their destabilization of Jamaica at the time, as well as their involvements with gangs just like the "skulls".
According to Gary Webb’s book,”The Dark Alliance,” Norman Descoteaux, the CIA station chief in Jamaica began a destabilization program of the Manley government in late 70s. Part of that plan was assassinations, money for the Jamaican Labour Party, labor unrest, bribery and shipping weapons to Manley’s opponents, like Lester “Jim Brown” Coke.
Now show proof of your angels?????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As a casual labourer offered work on manny occasions I went to places on word of mouth and or casual invitation.....It could have been me.... </div></div>
So you would take a job of securing and moving weapons when a NEAR state of emergency (suppression of crime act) is in place and the GUN COURT (indefinte detention for anyone caught with a Gun - possible for life) at night ??
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">Name A politician in his position as minister of security who is not responsible for the death of (allegedly) innocents or angels?
It is the nature of power, that with it sometimes comes the responsibility of make decisions that involves life and death.....or taking responsibility for it.</span>
This is the identical thesis postulated by all and sundry to justify evil...Assad is using it, Gaddaffi used it, Castro used it, Somoza used it, GEary used it, Coard used it, the colonilist use it, Columbus used it .. <span style="font-weight: bold">Under Jamaican law it does not justify</span>..</div></div>
The fact that actions taken were wrong does not mean that the reason given is not true.....nearly every President, King or Prime Minster is Guilty of the death of people whom others claim were innocents.....Such is the nature of Power and Authority.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Contrary to your opinion The courts in Jamaica ruled the Killings Justified
</span>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">To shoot unarmed civilains none of whom were wanted in connection with any crime by offering them work pales.. The men who survived were not charged with any crime.....</div></div>
They were members of A notorious criminal organization know as the "Skulls" and quite a few of them were convicted of various crimes.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And yes there is justification for bombing Dresden and Hiroshima, but to invite people to a kill zone and open fire without warning ??????? What War ??????</div></div>
At the time in Jamaica Gangs such as the ones they belong to were known to kill people wantonly, who they though or deemed members or supporters of the opposite political party.
UNDER HEAVY MANNERS - is a euphemenism for Martial Law.
Keep it in Context I said "near civil war" A State of Emergency was declared, Indefinite detentions was common, heavily arm military personell was a common sight on the streets, so was equally heavily arms bandits - death squads, Curfew was in place, bombs were being dropped on revolutionaries in Wareika Hills, and pitch battles were being fought in the streets.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If the minister in charge was not aware of Green Bay prior he was incompetent...... if he was he sanctioned it...</div></div>
You think that if you have a team of thousand, you can know what each of them is doing at any given time. One must trust in their training and professionalism.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As for the CIA, I could equally argue that angels from heaven came down and set these guys up as an option.</div></div>
Really ex CIA agents are on records as to their destabilization of Jamaica at the time, as well as their involvements with gangs just like the "skulls".
According to Gary Webb’s book,”The Dark Alliance,” Norman Descoteaux, the CIA station chief in Jamaica began a destabilization program of the Manley government in late 70s. Part of that plan was assassinations, money for the Jamaican Labour Party, labor unrest, bribery and shipping weapons to Manley’s opponents, like Lester “Jim Brown” Coke.
Now show proof of your angels?????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As a casual labourer offered work on manny occasions I went to places on word of mouth and or casual invitation.....It could have been me.... </div></div>
So you would take a job of securing and moving weapons when a NEAR state of emergency (suppression of crime act) is in place and the GUN COURT (indefinte detention for anyone caught with a Gun - possible for life) at night ??
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