yaawd african merican/blakk issue

**babyloc** · 10-26-2009, 05:01 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlackStar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The US has hijacked the word "American". Jamaica is in the Americas, like South & Central America and the rest of the Caribbean. That makes everyone from that part of the world American.

On a side-note, when the French want to be precise they use the adjective <span style="font-style: italic">états-unisien</span>. It's a pity the equivalent doesn't exist in English. </div></div>

i was thinking same thing but what would you call someone who's island is in the carribean sea but it is British ruled?..

i dont know what to call them folk

**babyloc** · 10-26-2009, 05:03 PM

Re: yaawd african merican/blakk issue

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nylah</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">maybe you guys need someone from the outside to show you how negative and demeaning you guys comments are in respect to Ameicans( particularly Black Americans)
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so what, Jesus is here for the Second Coming already?

let me run out and buy one pretty frock </div></div>

first time any body has ever called me God...u smart lady, man!

Blackstar* · 10-26-2009, 05:04 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Seveen</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-style: italic">one of the discussions i have with some of my international friends is

people come from countries and most people refer to themselves as such:

i'm indian (from india)
i'm polish
i'm italy
i'm dominican
i'm bajan
i'm israeli

not i'm white/black ____________________ (fill in name of country)</span>
</div></div>Yep, I noticed that it's *mainly* Anglo-Americans & others whose native language is English who refer to black and white by color and everyone else by place of origin.

When is the last time anyone refered to a Chinese or Japanese as "yellow" and why would that be considered an insult?

<span style="font-size: 8pt"><span style="font-style: italic">Sorry, don't mean to drag the thread off topic, blu. Carry on.</span></span>

**Peasie** · 10-26-2009, 05:09 PM

Re: yaawd african merican/blakk issue

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlackStar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yep, I noticed that it's *mainly* Anglo-Americans & others whose native language is English who refer to black and white by color and everyone else by place of origin.</div></div>

You've never lived in Jamaica, right? There you are either Black-Black, Red, Brown, White, Yellow (if you're albino); defined by your heritage; a prominent physical feature; or your lifestyle.

Blackstar* · 10-26-2009, 05:11 PM

Re: yaawd african merican/blakk issue

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Peasie</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlackStar</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-style: italic">Yep, I noticed that it's *mainly* Anglo-Americans & <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 11pt">others whose native language is English </span></span>who refer to black and white by color and everyone else by place of origin.</span></div></div>
<span style="font-style: italic">You've never lived in Jamaica, right? There you are either Black-Black, Red, Brown, White, Yellow (if you're albino); defined by your heritage; a prominent physical feature; or your lifestyle. </span></div></div>Patois is near enough to English to be be covered by the above in bold.

**evanovitch** · 10-26-2009, 05:12 PM

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not ongle in Ja...AA do it too...u no hear wen dem seh dem is black but not blue-blk...n wat is considered brown is blk anywhere else...

India , Vietnam, Pakistan n odda places whe u ha di shades all ha dem words fi di diffrance in shades...juss dat is not English so wi no undastan dem...

**evanovitch** · 10-26-2009, 05:15 PM

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n di hispanics ha it too....even di Koreans...shadish is alive an well in allll cultures..dat is why in all dem Asian stores, wedda is Japanese, to Chinese to Filipino, u ha more bleaching cremes dan u wan to find...who u tink supplying di black supply of bleaching..di highbrow Japs have always favoured crushed pearls fi lighten skin...

**Seveen** · 10-26-2009, 05:17 PM

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James Baldwin - Essence -
On Being `White' . . . and Other Lies,"

He writes, "No one was white before he/she came to America. It took generations, and a vast amount of coercion, before this became a white country. . . . America became white—the people who, as they claim, `settled' the country became white—because of the necessity of denying the Black presence, and justifying the Black subjugation" (180, 178). I used this assertion to offer students a brief history of the invention of "whiteness." I explained that the Europeans who first colonized the continent didn't identify themselves as "white," for the word had no meaning in racialized terms. It was not until slavery was racialized, in the late 1600s, that these people began naming themselves "white." I underscored the relational nature of this so-called "white race": these former Europeans became "white" in the presence of enslaved African peoples whom they labeled "black." As successive groups of European immigrants arrived on this continent and claimed it as home, their skin color enabled them to achieve a sense of belonging by adopting the racist beliefs, privileges, and practices that elevated "white" people above other so-called "races." They became superior by identifying themselves, and by allowing themselves to be identified, as "white."

**evanovitch** · 10-26-2009, 05:30 PM

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funny u posted dat..was watching an ole black n white movie wid Betty Davis an commented on how dem actors bak den had some tint to dem skin dat showed up in di blk n white..yep, dem Europeans who came across were not the pearly whites indeed..dem was di disenfranchised fi nuff reasons who den rose tru dem lighter hue an go awn to do wat dem was running from

**Suesumba** · 10-26-2009, 05:45 PM

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black folk should hold hands and jump into the sea in tandem to spare people the endless rahtid discussions

i really hope the world ends according to the aztec calendar

**evanovitch** · 10-26-2009, 05:49 PM

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dat date is mi birthday u know...December 21st , so to di end, i wi goat wid a bang....

**Wahalla** · 10-26-2009, 06:59 PM

Re: yaawd african merican/blakk issue

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlackStar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The US has hijacked the word "American". Jamaica is in the Americas, like South & Central America and the rest of the Caribbean. That makes everyone from that part of the world American.

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dis is why mi call united states people yanki....

**jaith2** · 10-26-2009, 07:04 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlackStar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The US has hijacked the word "American". Jamaica is in the Americas, like South & Central America and the rest of the Caribbean. That makes everyone from that part of the world American.

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dis is why mi call united states people yanki.... </div></div>

**blugiant** · 10-26-2009, 07:42 PM

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dem use fii cawl kemet ann nubia lands aff blakk beefore oyinbo enslavement. realitee iss dat wen blakk start chattinn bout blakks usinn mzungu time frame dem ignore afrikkan histaree dat predate oyinbo histaree

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Seveen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">James Baldwin - Essence -
On Being `White' . . . and Other Lies,"

He writes, "No one was white before he/she came to America. It took generations, and a vast amount of coercion, before this became a white country. . . . America became white—the people who, as they claim, `settled' the country became white—because of the necessity of denying the Black presence, and justifying the Black subjugation" (180, 178). I used this assertion to offer students a brief history of the invention of "whiteness." I explained that the Europeans who first colonized the continent didn't identify themselves as "white," for the word had no meaning in racialized terms. It was not until slavery was racialized, in the late 1600s, that these people began naming themselves "white." I underscored the relational nature of this so-called "white race": these former Europeans became "white" in the presence of enslaved African peoples whom they labeled "black." As successive groups of European immigrants arrived on this continent and claimed it as home, their skin color enabled them to achieve a sense of belonging by adopting the racist beliefs, privileges, and practices that elevated "white" people above other so-called "races." They became superior by identifying themselves, and by allowing themselves to be identified, as "white."
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**blugiant** · 10-26-2009, 07:54 PM

Re: yaawd african merican/blakk issue

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: remo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Seveen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">my friends in buenos aires say they are americans . . .

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Your friends are right...anybody born in the Americas is an American(this includes West Indians)
it's been conscrued(sic)lately to mean someone from the United States
but this is not correct.... </div></div>

seeeth deh. dat argument iss y mii sey mii neva shood a teech mii dawtah oww fii mekk sound argument. now wen mii tease ar bout oww shii iss wan meerican shii kno oww fii gitt unda mii skinn

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